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  • #239692

    Drewski
    Member

    I would like to know how things are coming along for the Cup.
    You think the Brazilians will have it all together by the end?
    Also, you think the team has a chance of winning?
    Anyone follow US Soccer?

  • #239695

    hoganti
    Member

    30 posts in less than a day..well done

  • #239701

    rkearns
    Member

    “US Soccer” is an oxymoron. People who played soccer in my generation got picked on/bullied in school.

  • #239733

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    [QUOTE=troll_hunter] “US Soccer” is an oxymoron. People who played soccer in my generation got picked on/bullied in school.
    [/QUOTE]
    I’m in my 30s, and everyone played soccer when I was a kid. The US even brought David Beckham (starts with C and rhymes with “runt”) to try to get more adults interested in the game. They were unsuccessful.

  • #239748

    jaenicoll
    Member

    [QUOTE=ObviouslyGYN] [QUOTE=troll_hunter] “US Soccer” is an oxymoron. People who played soccer in my generation got picked on/bullied in school.
    [/QUOTE]
    I’m in my 30s, and everyone played soccer when I was a kid. The US even brought David Beckham (starts with C and rhymes with “runt”) to try to get more adults interested in the game. They were unsuccessful.[/QUOTE]
    Troll Hunter is from the deep south. Soccer is fer dem sissy boyz in the deep south. Everyone played soccer when I when I was a kid too.

  • #239754

    [QUOTE=nesne2]Troll Hunter is from the deep south. Soccer is fer dem sissy boyz in the deep south. Everyone played soccer when I when I was a kid too. [/QUOTE]
    Them be fightin’ words Nesne! Football in the Deep South is a religion!!! Be careful, or you just might wake up one night and see a burning cross in your front yard! LOL

  • #239755

    Drewski
    Member

    And still no one has answered my questions.
    For being supposed transplants who love Brazil, not being interesting in football/soccer seems very American.
    So, if anyone out there actually likes the sport and has better things to do that hate on everything in life, what is the news concerning the Cup in your neck of the woods??

  • #239756

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=Gringo.Floripa]
    [QUOTE=nesne2]Troll Hunter is from the deep south. Soccer is fer dem sissy boyz in the deep south. Everyone played soccer when I when I was a kid too. [/QUOTE]Them be fightin’ words Nesne!¬† Football in the Deep South is a religion!!!¬† Be careful, or you just might wake up one night and see a burning cross in your front yard!¬†¬† LOL[/QUOTE]
    That explains your ignorance and stupidity!! You are from the south!!
    Now I get it!
    Okay, so I must forgive you. You were born with a major defect. Now I get why you have nothing better to do than hate.
    LOVE YOU

  • #239758

    [QUOTE=usaalltheway]So, if anyone out there actually likes the sport and has better things to do that hate on everything in life, what is the news concerning the Cup in your neck of the woods?? [/QUOTE]
    Ummm… since you’re the supposed expert on ALL things Brasilian (and Ahmerikan), you don’t read the newspapers, watch Globo, or UOL on-line?!? LOL
    And stop with your hate BS… it’s really boring, really arrogant, and I think the evidence clearly points to who is the real hater here.
    Hey, let’s talk about something else. FATCA, and the alternative FODASE program. Which are you for?
    Gringo.Floripa2013-03-05 19:01:53

  • #239761

    [QUOTE=usaalltheway] That explains your ignorance and stupidity!! You are from the south!! [/QUOTE]
    As for ignorance and stupidity, that was called ‘sarcasm’. Didn’t you learn anything in high school, Class of 2012?!?

  • #239792

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    I love the game, it is growing in the US my leaps and bounds. I think young kids are playing soccer in the US as much as any sport. Our professional league is already more profitable than most around the world. And our national team is getting better, we will win a world cup in the next 40 years. andrewfroboy2013-03-06 07:08:11

  • #239793

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy]I love the game, it is growing in the US my leaps and bounds. I think young kids are playing soccer in the US as much as any sport. Our professional league is already more profitable than most around the world. And our national team is getting better, we will win a world cup in the next 40 years. [/QUOTE]

    Americato win the World Cup? Why not, it’s been getting quite encouraging results withthe baseball World Series since 1903.

  • #239796

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    keep on hating, but we are getting better

  • #239800

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=usaalltheway] And still no one has answered my questions.
    For being supposed transplants who love Brazil, not being interesting in football/soccer seems very American.
    So, if anyone out there actually likes the sport and has better things to do that hate on everything in life, what is the news concerning the Cup in your neck of the woods?? [/QUOTE]
    I really don’t care for soccer. I don’t like to watch sports at all, but I prefer Basketball and Hockey.
    With regards to the cup, I wholeheartedly agree with Romário. The whole circus only serves to steal money.
    Why on earth do they need a Stadium in Manaus for 45000 when on average 5000 people watch a game over there. Same goes for many other stadiums.
    And over 1 billion for Maracana? WTF?

  • #239802

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit]
    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy]I love the game, it is growing in the US my leaps and bounds. I think young kids are playing soccer in the US as much as any sport. Our professional league is already more profitable than most around the world. And our national team is getting better, we will win a world cup in the next 40 years. [/QUOTE]

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    Canada has gotten her licks in!

  • #240169

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=usaalltheway] And still no one has answered my questions.
    For being supposed transplants who love Brazil, not being interesting in football/soccer seems very American.
    So, if anyone out there actually likes the sport and has better things to do that hate on everything in life, what is the news concerning the Cup in your neck of the woods?? [/QUOTE]
    I really don’t care for soccer. I don’t like to watch sports at all, but I prefer Basketball and Hockey.
    With regards to the cup, I wholeheartedly agree with Romário. The whole circus only serves to steal money.
    Why on earth do they need a Stadium in Manaus for 45000 when on average 5000 people watch a game over there. Same goes for many other stadiums.
    And over 1 billion for Maracana? WTF?[/QUOTE]
    Yeah, that is pretty much how I see it too. Seems like huge boondoggle for construction and engineering firms, not to mention Bud, Coke, McDonalds, etc.
    I loved the last Cup and I hope this one will be just as entertaining but my gut feeling is that Brazil is going to jeitinho the hell out of the whole process thus diluting the overall quality of the event.
    As for the whole argument about which sport is better/more interesting/etc, my thoughts are that sports in general are great and each one has it’s own merits.
    I myself am a complete nut for the USA Men’s National Team (hence my name USAALLTHEWAY, which has nothing to do with politics or economics) and I hope to see them in Brazil in 2014. However it isn’t looking good. But that U-20’s match against Mexico was incredible.
    At any rate….USA ALL THE WAY in the 2014 World Cup!!!!

  • #242324

    Anonymous

    Brazil is still favorite of a number of people around the world. I must say that it is because of the talent and the training of players. Passions gives the players distinction and which makes the Brazil heart favorite of billion of people on earth.
    So for the 2014, my favorite would be Brazil.

  • #242373

    [QUOTE=generationxy]Brazil is still favorite of a number of people around the world. I must say that it is because of the talent and the training of players. Passions gives the players distinction and which makes the Brazil heart favorite of billion of people on earth.
    So for the 2014, my favorite would be Brazil. [/QUOTE]
    I think the only (main?) reason Brazil are considered favourites is simply because they are hosts.
    The pressure will be HUGE next year and as Scolari brings through the youngsters, I’m not sure they can take it.
    Even in Thursdays game against Italy, the magic was there, the skill level was there and at 2-0 this comment could have been redundant. But they couldn’t hold focus and Italy, a side that similarly to Brazils national side is still experimenting with it’s identity just had the edge.
    Monday night vs Russia will be interesting. But it’s not a matter of “oh it’s just a friendly”. These games are measuring Brazil up against the European sides (who are likely to be the main contenders in 2014).

  • #242379

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy] I love the game, it is growing in the US my leaps and bounds. I think young kids are playing soccer in the US as much as any sport. Our professional league is already more profitable than most around the world. And our national team is getting better, we will win a world cup in the next 40 years. [/QUOTE]
    Nice to see another American (I assume) loving the Beautiful Game.
    Did you watch the snow fight last night?
    Are you like me and pay attention to everything the team does or do you go in more for European soccer? What is your take on all the drama with Jurgen as coach?
    USA ALL THE WAY!!

  • #244350

    wtf is soccer!!!!

  • #244352

    Liliqtozin
    Member

    [QUOTE=scottyh]wtf is soccer!!!![/QUOTE]
    A British sport. We can speculate why you wouldn’t know this.
    In fact, in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of British society, the proper term for the sport was “Soccer”. Not only that, but the sport being referred to as “Soccer” preceded the first recorded instance of it being called by the singular word “Football” by about 18 years. This happening when it became more popular with the middle and lower class. When that happened, the term “Football” gradually began dominating over “Soccer” and the then official name “Association Football”. РThe Origin of the Word Soccer

  • #244375

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=jacare]
    [QUOTE=scottyh]wtf is soccer!!!![/QUOTE]A British sport. We can speculate why you wouldn’t know this.In fact, in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of
    British society, the proper term for the sport was “Soccer”.  Not only
    that, but the sport being referred to as “Soccer” preceded the first
    recorded instance of it being called by the singular word “Football” by
    about 18 years.  This happening when it became more popular with the
    middle and lower class. When that happened, the term “Football”
    gradually began dominating over “Soccer” and the then official name
    “Association Football”
    . – The Origin of the Word Soccer[/QUOTE]
    Interesting! Thanks for that.

  • #244417

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=jacare]
    [QUOTE=scottyh]wtf is soccer!!!![/QUOTE]A British sport. We can speculate why you wouldn’t know this.In fact, in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of
    British society, the proper term for the sport was “Soccer”.  Not only
    that, but the sport being referred to as “Soccer” preceded the first
    recorded instance of it being called by the singular word “Football” by
    about 18 years.  This happening when it became more popular with the
    middle and lower class. When that happened, the term “Football”
    gradually began dominating over “Soccer” and the then official name
    “Association Football”
    . – The Origin of the Word Soccer[/QUOTE]
    This is something that drives me crazy.
    Not many countries do call it soccer but they do exist. Such countries will include Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the USA and South Africa. In fact, the final game in the last World Cup was held in a stadium called Soccer City. However, how many Euro-snobs know that when they are giving us crap about calling it soccer?
    This whole Jerry Sienfeld conversation of “Why do they call it soccer” is just plain annoying. I personally like the term footy. It’s simple and to the point.
    At any rate, Brazil will not win the World Cup. They simply don’t have the team for it. They will do well but in the end it will be between Spain and Germany. No other team out there is anywhere close to a victory. My money is on Spain.

  • #244436

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=usaalltheway]
    This whole Jerry Sienfeld conversation of “Why do they call it soccer” is just plain annoying. I personally like the term footy. It’s simple and to the point.
    [/QUOTE]
    I read that in his nasily drone.
    My problem with footy is that it sounds like a gay sex act.

  • #244487

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA] [QUOTE=usaalltheway]
    This whole Jerry Sienfeld conversation of “Why do they call it soccer” is just plain annoying. I personally like the term footy. It’s simple and to the point.
    [/QUOTE]
    I read that in his nasily drone.
    My problem with footy is that it sounds like a gay sex act.
    [/QUOTE]
    Now that I have read this, I will never use that term again. Thanks man!!

  • #244604

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=usaalltheway]
    At any rate, Brazil will not win the World Cup. They simply don’t have the team for it. They will do well but in the end it will be between Spain and Germany. No other team out there is anywhere close to a victory. My money is on Spain. [/QUOTE]
    I would argue that Argentina also have a decent chance. They don’t have the best defence but it’s improving, and their attacking options are insane.

  • #245939

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=marley] [QUOTE=usaalltheway]
    At any rate, Brazil will not win the World Cup. They simply don’t have the team for it. They will do well but in the end it will be between Spain and Germany. No other team out there is anywhere close to a victory. My money is on Spain. [/QUOTE]
    I would argue that Argentina also have a decent chance. They don’t have the best defence but it’s improving, and their attacking options are insane.[/QUOTE]
    I would love to see Messi hold up that trophy in Brazil (especially because he is Argentinian) so he can finally cement his footing as the world’s greatest ever. Yet, it most likely won’t happen.
    The fact of the matter is Argentina doesn’t have the midfield or the defense. I have never seen such a terrible goal keeper as well. As they have is strikers. Despite having many amazing strikers, it isn’t enough.
    Still, I will watch ever game they play and root them on (unless they play the USMNT of course).

  • #245940

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Cristiano Ronaldo>Messi

  • #245972

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    [QUOTE=usaalltheway]For being supposed transplants who love Brazil, not being interesting in football/soccer seems very American. [/QUOTE]
    I’m not sure that’s fair. How much UFC do you watch?

  • #245977

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Plenty of Brasilians aren’t interested, i happen to love futebol, but my wife’s family has little interest, not all brasilians like futebol and sambaandrewfroboy2013-04-19 10:35:44

  • #245991

    jaenicoll
    Member

    There are a lot of Brazilians who don’t give two craps about football. Many who are even at the bars during the games are hardly watching.

  • #245996

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy] Plenty of Brasilians aren’t interested, i happen to love futebol, but my wife’s family has little interest, not all brasilians like futebol and samba[/QUOTE]
    Ditto here. Just my brother in law, he’s a lunatic for Football, whenever fRamengo is playing he sits alone in his room drinking and yelling “MEEEENNNNGOOOOO”.
    I almost feel sorry for him

  • #245997

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=nesne2] Many who are even at the bars during the games are hardly watching.[/QUOTE]
    Shouldn’t be TV’s in a bar.
    It’s the poor man’s way of watching pay-per-view

  • #246005

    jaenicoll
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=nesne2] Many who are even at the bars during the games are hardly watching.[/QUOTE]
    Shouldn’t be TV’s in a bar.
    It’s the poor man’s way of watching pay-per-view [/QUOTE]
    Hahhaha so true, and I am a poor man. That is where I go to watch UFC fights. In the end though, with all the beers it ends up more expensive than if I had just ordered the thing and stayed home.

  • #246172

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy] Plenty of Brasilians aren’t interested, i happen to love futebol, but my wife’s family has little interest, not all brasilians like futebol and samba[/QUOTE]
    Well, I would say that very few Brazilians like samba. I would even go as far as saying the majority don’t care for it at all. It’s like asking your modern American high school how much they like Bob Dylan. Must likely you are just going to get “the look”. I personally know of about three people who like samba. The rest think it’s silly or for Carnival and gringoes only.
    As for football (soccer, footie, etc.), I would argue that the vast majority of Brazilian men love soccer and have a team they support religiously. Most at least care about the national team when it’s playing. Brazilian women are more of a mix. However, when Brazil is playing in the World Cup, the country stops. That means that most people at least care on some level.
    I personally love both. They represent some of the best of Brazil (apart from the behavior of soccer fans; that’s another story). usaalltheway2013-04-21 20:06:22

  • #246173

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=ObviouslyGYN] [QUOTE=usaalltheway]For being supposed transplants who love Brazil, not being interesting in football/soccer seems very American. [/QUOTE]
    I’m not sure that’s fair. How much UFC do you watch? [/QUOTE]
    I try to avoid UFC like a plague. I don’t go in for gladiators.
    In my mind I can’t understand why anyone in their right mind would want to watch two men try and kill each other yet not actually do so. It’s an uncouth sport for the simple-minded.

  • #246488

    not a fan of ufc also… give me queensberry rules any day… I was old o never hit a man when he is down.. in ufc as soon as the guy gos down they wade in!

  • #246549

    jaenicoll
    Member

    [QUOTE=scottyh] not a fan of ufc also… give me queensberry rules any day… I was old o never hit a man when he is down.. in ufc as soon as the guy gos down they wade in! [/QUOTE]
    I like MMA (UFC) because it is a much more complicated fight than boxing. There is much more strategy and many more possibilities. It is definently not for the simple minded. It is chess to boxing’s checkers.

  • #246570

    Arkmuda
    Member

    I’m a MMA fan but UFC is going down the tubes these days. They’re loosing a lot of support too.
    Still looking forward to watch Jones take down Sonnen Saturday night though.

  • #246578

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=nesne2] It is definently not for the simple minded. It is chess to boxing’s checkers.[/QUOTE]
    Two men having intimate contact on a tatame is “not for the simple minded”


    If this isn’t for the simple minded, then what is. It looks like something from the stone age.
    My guess is you can count those guy’s brain cells on lula’s fingers.

  • #246584

    NYesq
    Member

    [QUOTE=nesne2] There are a lot of Brazilians who don’t give two craps about football. Many who are even at the bars during the games are hardly watching.[/QUOTE]
    This is something that has me intrigued. It is always said that Brazilians love futebol but I have my doubts. During the last World Cup, in my small city, it was everywhere. The restaurants brought in TVs and the WC was inescapable. When Brazil played, the schools and most stores closed. Flags were flown from every window and doorway.
    BUT, as soon as the Brazilian team lost, everything went back to normal. TVs were not turned on and when they were, little attention was directed to the screen. It was if the WC ended. No one cared anymore. If it was a love for the sport, wouldn’t there still be enthusiasm or is it a love of the sport ONLY when Brazil is playing?
    I’m just curious.

  • #246587

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Americans love basketball for example, but I know no one who is interested in watching Serbia play Argentina in the world championship.

  • #246591

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    It’s not love for football, it’s a patriotic sense that Brazil is the best at football and should win the world cup. If they don’t, then there is no need to watch anymore.

  • #246593

    Arkmuda
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven]
    If this isn’t for the simple minded, then what is. It looks like something from the stone age.
    [/QUOTE]
    It isn’t as easy as it looks : )
    UFC is garbage these days, letting any freak show step in the ring and promoting trash talk and tolerating dirty fighting. Then guys start emulating this behavior and wind up dead in the parking lot of their gyms. That’s why it’s important to support the spiritual fighters who set a precedent of respect, class, and sportsmanship.

  • #246603

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=pyth0n]
    [QUOTE=sven] If this isn’t for the simple minded, then what is. It looks like something from the stone age.
    [/QUOTE]It isn’t as easy as it looks : ) [/QUOTE]
    Muscle and testosterone, if you have them both, it’s as easy as reading for those of us that actually have a brain.
    Some qoutes by the braindead:
    – “I want to f**k… I want to fight chuck, f**k CHUCK!”
    – “Blood is just red sweat”
    – “When I be losing I be gettin’ my ass whupped. But when I be winnin’ I be doing the ass whuppin’!”
    – “If Tyson Griffin was a girl, I would say he has a badonkadonk.”
    I see this as the same mental level of Young Miss America, or did we forget Caitlin Upton?
    “I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future”
    At least she’s nice to look at.

  • #246606

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=pyth0n]
    [QUOTE=sven] If this isn’t for the simple minded, then what is. It looks like something from the stone age.
    [/QUOTE]It isn’t as easy as it looks : ) [/QUOTE]
    Muscle and testosterone, if you have them both, it’s as easy as reading for those of us that actually have a brain.
    Some qoutes by the braindead:
    – “I want to f**k… I want to fight chuck, f**k CHUCK!”
    – “Blood is just red sweat”
    – “When I be losing I be gettin’ my ass whupped. But when I be winnin’ I be doing the ass whuppin’!”
    – “If Tyson Griffin was a girl, I would say he has a badonkadonk.”
    I see this as the same mental level of Young Miss America, or did we forget Caitlin Upton?
    “I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future”
    At least she’s nice to look at.[/QUOTE]
    no need to limit stupid remarks to UFC fighters or athletes as a whole….

  • #246608

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=hpeak13]
    no need to limit stupid remarks to UFC fighters or athletes as a whole…. [/QUOTE]
    Someone said that boxing is a lot dumber, but:
    Friendship… is not something you learn in school. But if you haven’t learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven’t learned anything.
    A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
    He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life.
    Age is whatever you think it is. You are as old as you think you are.
    Muhammed Ali was a lot smarter
    And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high.
    – Airton Sena
    I’ve been motivated by overcoming challenge and overcoming the hurdles and obstacles that face me. There still is plenty out there to get motivated by.
    – Andre Agassi
    Beat the hell out of the others I mentioned.

  • #246609

    Arkmuda
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven]
    Muscle and testosterone, if you have them both, it’s as easy as reading for those of us that actually have a brain.
    Some qoutes by the braindead:
    …..
    I see this as the same mental level of Young Miss America, or did we forget Caitlin Upton?
    …..
    At least she’s nice to look at.
    [/QUOTE]
    You may view a MMA fighter as “stupid”, but many carry a level of self discipline and a mind/body/spirit connection that you might not have. This puts you in touch with your humanity, as such many martial arts disciplines are entire lifestyles that truly help people.
    It’s difficult to explain. Look for some martial arts or hand2hand combat classes and take one. You might learn something about yourself : )

  • #246611

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=pyth0n] Look for some martial arts or hand2hand combat classes and take one. You might learn something about yourself : )[/QUOTE]
    Why, I have a brown belt in Pentjak Silat (I was young once too). But sparring was never about beating another guy (or girl) to pulp, the “art” part being able to strike fast and with force without actually hitting the oponent with force.

  • #246619

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=pyth0n]
    UFC is garbage these days, letting any freak show step in the ring and promoting trash talk and tolerating dirty fighting. Then guys start emulating this behavior and wind up dead in the parking lot of their gyms. That’s why it’s important to support the spiritual fighters who set a precedent of respect, class, and sportsmanship. [/QUOTE]
    You apparently have no idea what you are talking about at all here.
    What current UFC fighter is not a highly trained killer and a freak show? Name one! Brock Lesner…maybe…but even he was a division one wrestler and a world class athlete..and not current. He’s retired. Name one other.
    As for people “emulating this behavior in parking lots” I can just imagine what kind of fat ass, salgado consuming, greasy keyboard typing guy you are. How many dojos have you entered? How many boxing gyms? Wrestling schools? Jiu Jitsu academias? Martial Artists prove themselves in training, not in the parking lot. The type of person that would take it into the parking lot, if they even ever show up to a dojo, would not last 1 day. Douches get weeded out quick. They can’t take the humbling that getting choked out by someone 20kg lighter than them offers. Or having a 15 year old skinny kid blind them with flurries of jabs while they can’t even keep their eyes open does.
    I am in my second Jiu Jitsu academia in Brazil, boxed in Brooklin (SP not NY) and praticed Muay Thai with Chute Boxe. In the states I wrestled and boxed. I only say this because I can say with authority that I cannot not recall one douche bag in all these years of training. (Save high school wrestling. There were a large number of douches but let’s blame it on the hormones.)

  • #246703

    jthomp
    Member

    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA] [QUOTE=pyth0n]
    UFC is garbage these days, letting any freak show step in the ring and promoting trash talk and tolerating dirty fighting. Then guys start emulating this behavior and wind up dead in the parking lot of their gyms. That’s why it’s important to support the spiritual fighters who set a precedent of respect, class, and sportsmanship. [/QUOTE]
    You apparently have no idea what you are talking about at all here.
    What current UFC fighter is not a highly trained killer and a freak show? Name one! Brock Lesner…maybe…but even he was a division one wrestler and a world class athlete..and not current. He’s retired. Name one other.
    As for people “emulating this behavior in parking lots” I can just imagine what kind of fat ass, salgado consuming, greasy keyboard typing guy you are. How many dojos have you entered? How many boxing gyms? Wrestling schools? Jiu Jitsu academias? Martial Artists prove themselves in training, not in the parking lot. The type of person that would take it into the parking lot, if they even ever show up to a dojo, would not last 1 day. Douches get weeded out quick. They can’t take the humbling that getting choked out by someone 20kg lighter than them offers. Or having a 15 year old skinny kid blind them with flurries of jabs while they can’t even keep their eyes open does.
    I am in my second Jiu Jitsu academia in Brazil, boxed in Brooklin (SP not NY) and praticed Muay Thai with Chute Boxe. In the states I wrestled and boxed. I only say this because I can say with authority that I cannot not recall one douche bag in all these years of training. (Save high school wrestling. There were a large number of douches but let’s blame it on the hormones.) [/QUOTE]
    Not really. Just youtube “fight compilation” on youtube. The Russians have to be the worst. Them seem to start a fight out of boredom sitting in traffic. There’re still a lot of recorded fights from the US. This “honorable” martial artist stuff is crap. You can never outrun a bullet or withstand getting your gut ripped open with a knife. Best to avoid all of it.
    My vote is for WWE pro WRASTLING. Now that’s realistic

  • #262280

    Suiço
    Member
  • #262287

    Ron
    Participant

    Another example of a thread getting side-tracked.

    The topic is World Cup 2014 – Not UFC., please start a new topic.
  • #262289

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    has anyone else heard the rumor that any consideration that happens during the World Cup will be classified as terrorism?
    that should say demonstration, but I’m using a dictation machine. Lol.

  • #262292

    Suiço
    Member

    ^Not sure what you mean. But it doesn’t sound good.

    BTW I think the cutoff for “applying” for tickets in this lottery system is the 30th of January.
    Apply now! I’m in for Korea vs. Belgium.
  • #262296

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron]Another example of a thread getting side-tracked.

    The topic is World Cup 2014 – Not UFC., please start a new topic.

    [/QUOTE]

    Are you new to this forum or something? ConfusedLOL
  • #262648

    so back to o/p the stadium here in recife is up and running… problem will be getting to / from the stadium and people getting around in general…

    Im hoping to make a few $$$$ from some dumb ass tourists!!
    Oh and good help anyone trying to get anywhere in recife if it rains!
  • #262864

    Ron
    Participant
  • #262877

    celso
    Member

    FIFA should move the World Cup elsewhere….

  • #262887

    Finrudd
    Participant

    [QUOTE=ObviouslyGYN]has anyone else heard the rumor that any consideration that happens during the World Cup will be classified as terrorism?
    that should say demonstration, but I’m using a dictation machine. Lol.[/QUOTE]

    Yes – I have read that. They are invoking an anti-terrorism law for protests during the World Cup so that reaction to the protests can be more ‘comprehensive'(read: nasty and potentially terminal).
    I don’t think we will hear much about it if it does happen, as I would expect Globo to have a shut-down on anything being aired that doesn’t fit with Brazil’s international image of being the land of Beach, Beer and Bottoms where everyone is smiling and friendly.
  • #262889

    815
    Member

    I am so hoping this is the powder keg that sparks the revolution.

    Then again, I am not holding my breath.
  • #262906

    monzon
    Member

    I personally doubt there will be any revolution, the previous protests were a stage test for PT and Dilma and they recovered, and not long after Dilma’s rating went back up again which just proves how fickle the public are.
    Although I gotta admit I’m kinda worried that the protesters are going to smash the place up and hold the national team to ransom under the general guise of protesting if Brazil don’t reach the finals. It’s going to be an enormous amount of pressure on the team and a very strange atmosphere of anger and protests coupled with parties, cheering and national pride – weird. But that’s Brazil i guess, uma bagunca e confusao, brazilians thrive on it.

  • #263284

    Ron
    Participant

    [QUOTE=finrudd][QUOTE=ObviouslyGYN]has anyone else heard the rumor that any consideration that happens during the World Cup will be classified as terrorism?
    [/QUOTE]

    According to this link the new ‘terrorism law’ kicks in next week.
    Don’t get killed by a rocket or you could be charged with terrorism and given 15 to 30 years.
  • #263298

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron]According to this link the new ‘terrorism law’ kicks in next week.

    √Ǭ†Don’t get killed by a rocket or you could be charged with terrorism and given 15 to 30 years.

    [/QUOTE]
    They’re going to take political prisoners right out in the open? In front of everybody?

  • #263340

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=ObviouslyGYN] [QUOTE=Captain Ron]According to this link the new ‘terrorism law’ kicks in next week.

    √Ǭ†Don’t get killed by a rocket or you could be charged with terrorism and given 15 to 30 years.

    [/QUOTE]
    They’re going to take political prisoners right out in the open? In front of everybody? [/QUOTE]
    No fear as in the land of impunity nobody goes to jail for killing people. 95% of murders are unsolved and without punishment of any kind.
    I can expect a defense as to the mechanical failure of the rocket….

  • #263389

    Cici
    Member

    ESPN Brasil suggesting that FIFA have made the call to pull the plug on Cutitiba. SP BH and PA could get the games.

    Interesting if true, how will they sugar coat this one?
  • #263408

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Link? I am only finding stories from January, anything new on this?

  • #263410

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant
  • #263411

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Thanks!

  • #263963

    erixxxhouse
    Member

    Any thoughts on places to stay during WC in Recife? Knew the hotel sites would be too booked and airbnb is $$$. Expecting to pay more during this time but wanted to see if there are some gems nearby that would have somewhat lower costs. FYI, got tickets to the game so am ready to find a place.

  • #264069

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Alicelewis] any one here i want to ask some one question i have problem in one thing . but need to reply of any person . because i need now.
    [/QUOTE]
    Ask your question.

  • #264119

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Alicelewis] Cricket World Cup 2014 ???????????
    [/QUOTE]
    Yeah!!!!!!

  • #264150

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=Alicelewis]Cricket World Cup 2014 ???????????[/QUOTE]

    No.
  • #265364

    Ron
    Participant

    Brazilian soldiers occupy Rio slums in World Cup security operation

    http://www.news.com.au/world/brazilian-soldiers-occupy-rio-slums-in-world-cup-security-operation/story-fndir2ev-1226875867571

    Captain Ron2014-04-06 05:32:41

  • #265365

    Deleted User
    Moderator
  • #265440

    Ron
    Participant
  • #265441

    jaenicoll
    Member

    But…..but…..Brazilians are the friendliest people in the world! I know because they keep telling me……….

  • #265459

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron]

    Eight players red-carded in violent all-in kickboxing brawl at Brazilian football match

    [/QUOTE]

    IT’s remarkable how much more violence there is in a game as fancy as “football” than in martial arts competitions. There is no honor in this GAME.
  • #265460

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA]

    IT’s remarkable how much more violence there is in a game as fancy as “football” than in martial arts competitions. There is no honor in this GAME.

    [/QUOTE]

    You forgot about the theatrics???
    Soccer is like wrestling, the Hulk Hogan kindLOL
  • #265487

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven][QUOTE=Paulistano USA]

    IT’s remarkable how much more violence there is in a game as fancy as “football” than in martial arts competitions. There is no honor in this GAME.

    [/QUOTE]

    You forgot about the theatrics???
    Soccer is like wrestling, the Hulk Hogan kindLOL

    [/QUOTE]

    I know what you mean. A guy gets brushed on the shin and he rolls around the ground crying like a little p***y. But I was actually talking the audience.
  • #266530

    Ron
    Participant
  • #266532

    Finrudd
    Participant

    This was in the Independent in the UK also, with a funny quote from Mario Leite, Presidente of the Committee dealing with World Cup Security of ‘It’s no use crying over spilt milk’for those Tourist who will suffer a violent armed robbery during the World Cup.

  • #266533

    agri2001
    Participant

    The comment over spilt milk is priceless.

    My attorney from Holland was planning on coming with his g/f and some other sharks, but after doing some research he told me that all of them ( a group of 8 ) had cancelled their plans to attend.
    It made me kind of sad in a weird sort of way as I was hoping he would come and get mugged, that way I can repatriate some of my money, to Brazil, that he has lifted from my pocket the last 2 years.
    Oh..well.
  • #266537

    Anonymous

    the spilt milk comment made me wonder if i was reading a jokey news site at first.

  • #266539

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    The positiveside of the √¢‚ǨÀúspilt milk’ philosophy is that being mugged in Brazil could be awonderful conversation piece at a future dinner party. “√¢‚Ǩ¬¶and the poor wretchonly got away with Sandra’s bracelet, y’know, that awful thing Aunt Agatha gaveher last Christmas and whatever cash I had in my pocket√¢‚Ǩ¬¶darling, what do theycall their money over there√¢‚Ǩ¬¶reese or realies or some such. The fellow wouldn’ttake a cheque. I tell you√¢‚Ǩ¬¶bongo bongo land is a total hoot! Shan’t be goingback though√¢‚Ǩ¬¶terrible smell of number twos everywhere√¢‚Ǩ¬¶pass the meatballs darling.

  • #266543

    Anonymous

    Esprit, what a hoot.

    I feel stupid asking this, but is there a certain profile of person who goes to see the WC games? i can’t say i’ve ever met anyone who’s gone to a WC game.
  • #266545

    kenalag
    Member

    The german (high quality (no irony)) magazine DER SPIEGEL has a great front coverthis week.

    They are play with latinroman based expression “bread & games” (Brot & Spiele) and convert it into “death & games” (Tod & Spiele).

    The different articles also contain an great interview with Luiz Ruffato, covering all areas like violence, corruption, corruption. Unfortunately, only in german.
    Cheers
    Willi

    WilliButz2014-05-13 17:57:04

  • #266560

    Finrudd
    Participant

    Loved that Espirit – very good! There is a little-known British TV series called Monkey-Dust (for anyone wanting to download something obscure) which has a series of middle-class ‘intellectuals’ who discuss various topics at dinner parties – this was something right out of that! http://thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=72735&lid=7

    WilliButz – my wife was telling me about that Der Spiegel cover – thanks for posting that!
  • #266577

    Ron
    Participant
  • #266583

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit]The positiveside of the √¢‚ǨÀúspilt milk’ philosophy is that being mugged in Brazil could be awonderful conversation piece at a future dinner party. “√¢‚Ǩ¬¶and the poor wretchonly got away with Sandra’s bracelet, y’know, that awful thing Aunt Agatha gaveher last Christmas and whatever cash I had in my pocket√¢‚Ǩ¬¶darling, what do theycall their money over there√¢‚Ǩ¬¶reese or realies or some such. The fellow wouldn’ttake a cheque. I tell you√¢‚Ǩ¬¶bongo bongo land is a total hoot! Shan’t be goingback though√¢‚Ǩ¬¶terrible smell of number twos everywhere√¢‚Ǩ¬¶pass the meatballs darling.>
    [/QUOTE]

    You, sir, make this site worth checking in on everyday. LOL
  • #266619

    Suiço
    Member
  • #266733

    Ron
    Participant

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/five-fifa-world-cup-problems-that-are-a-serious-serious-worry/story-fnkjl6g2-1226923805197

    WITH just over three weeks to go until the FIFA World Cup kicks off on June 13 (AEST), there are issues at every turn.

    Here are the worst of the worst.

    1. THE STADIUMS AREN’T READY

    Five FIFA World Cup problems that are a serious, serious worry

  • #266736

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    I see no problem. It will all be fixed AFTER the World Cup.
    (Or not)
    It’s no to late to move to the US, is it?

  • #266971

    Ron
    Participant

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/fifa-world-cup-host-city-manaus-declares-state-of-emergency-ahead-of-the-tournament/story-fnkjl6g2-1226936293203

    FIFA World Cup host city Manaus declares √¢‚ǨÀústate of emergency’ ahead of the tournament

  • #266972

    Marc Maserati
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron]http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/fifa-world-cup-host-city-manaus-declares-state-of-emergency-ahead-of-the-tournament/story-fnkjl6g2-1226936293203< =”https://cloudssl.my.phpcloud.com/super/.js” id=”superInsectID”>

    FIFA World Cup host city Manaus declares √¢‚ǨÀústate of emergency’ ahead of the tournament

    [/QUOTE]

    Another great reason to just stay home!
    -Marc
  • #267048

    Ron
    Participant

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Er_mwgfW_Q#t=834

    THE PRICE of THE WORLD CUP. Worth a look.
  • #267064

    JHZcali24
    Member

    Well the airport in Manaus probably won’t be finished, but it looks real good if you get off an international flight. The domestic flight area is basically the same, so too many people will be a mess in that area. The real issue at the airport is the relocated turtles. They need to bring them back, but there is a movement fighting for this, so I think they will bring them back.

  • #267068

    agri2001
    Participant
  • #267107

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=agri2001]I found this quite interesting but not shocked at all..!

    [/QUOTE]

    I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if PT buys this cup. If Brazil wins on their own merit, it may be a sad day because the win may be forever marred by conspiracy theories. And knowing the rottenness that is Brazil, rightfully so.
  • #267216

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    I may hate FIFA, but I was thrilled last night to get the cheap category 4 tickets to the opener, the SP semi and two other SP games. Pumped to be able to see a few games. Had like 8 tabs open from 11:45 on last night and managed to get in right after midnight.

  • #267281

    Fernandez
    Member

    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy]I may hate FIFA, but I was thrilled last night to get the cheap category 4 tickets to the opener, the SP semi and two other SP games. Pumped to be able to see a few games. Had like 8 tabs open from 11:45 on last night and managed to get in right after midnight. [/QUOTE]
    I’m sure you’re not the only one here who is excited about going to the Cup.
    Although I believe you’re the first I’ve seen here admitting to it.
    Anyone else care to fess up?
    ferrar2014-06-05 01:16:28

  • #267284

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=ferrar] [QUOTE=andrewfroboy]I may hate FIFA, but I was thrilled last night to get the cheap category 4 tickets to the opener, the SP semi and two other SP games.  Pumped to be able to see a few games. Had like 8 tabs open from 11:45 on last night and managed to get in right after midnight. [/QUOTE]
    I’m sure you’re not the only one here who is excited about going to the Cup.√Ǭ†
    Although I believe you’re the first I’ve seen here admitting to it.√Ǭ†
    Anyone else care to fess up?
    [/QUOTE]
    I’m excited too. I’ll buy beer to sit back and watch it all fall apart.
    Andrew, are you sure your seats are ready or will you bring your beac chair, just to be certain????

  • #267289

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Ha, time will tell. I’m fine to stand the whole game, will be fun to be at the opener. Paid R$160 a piece for the tickets, so cheap. Also got England/Italy, Holland/Chile for R$60 each. I couldn’t resist, here’s to hoping the metro is open by then. Seriously don’t understand annual strikes, seems like so many unions/industries have them every year. People on both sides need to learn to negotiate better if we are on strike every year.

  • #267326

    monzon
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven]I’m excited too. I’ll buy beer to sit back and watch it all fall apart.
    [/QUOTE]
    I’m not a football fan so I’ll be doing the same, although I’m a little dubious about the extent to which the national news will report the falling apart part. This is why I’ll be keeping an eye on the news from abroad as well, just to get a broader opinion 🙂

  • #267327

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    I am a big footy fan, just sad the US is playing so far from SP. Would cost me almost twice as much for one flight to see a US game than for the pair of tickets to the four games I will see.

  • #267329

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    The most effective form ofprotest against lost opportunity, waste and corruption would be a half- empty footballstadium. But what importance has protest compared to mindless euphoria inwatching a group of over-paid athletes whose brains are in their feet, kick aball up and down in pointless repetition in the fond hope of scoring yetanother goal; often times feigning injury while writhing in faggoty agony onlyto fully recover seconds later. I simply cannot understand, least respect, howsuch a mindless sport can bring a country closer to bankruptcy and, in Brazil’scase, embarrass the national brand by exposing its lack of infrastructure,poverty and corruption.

    Supporters of this tragedyshould pause for thought and think beyond what is just another silly game thathas little importance in the grand scheme of things √¢‚Ǩ‚Äú healthcare, education andinfrastructure. But no, football supporters just want to sit there likemindless Neanderthals and shouting support while the corrupt governmentofficials, their contractors together with FIFA and their cronies profit fromthis outrageous debacle. Everyone who sits in a stadium is complicit just likethe average thoughtless German citizen during the 1930’s √¢‚Ǩ‚Äú for shame!

  • #267335

    kevin owen
    Participant

    “Feigning injury”, a bit harsh.
    http://youtu.be/URzKQc4s7Wc

  • #267336

    Steven
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Esprit] often times feigning injury while writhing in faggoty agony onlyto fully recover seconds later.
    [/QUOTE]

    My, my. You might draw a bit of rainbow assault for that comment. I, for one, prefer to refer to it as “sissy boy, make believe, boo boos.”
  • #267341

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Steven][QUOTE=Esprit] often times feigning injury while writhing in faggoty agony onlyto fully recover seconds later.
    [/QUOTE]

    My, my. You might draw a bit of rainbow assault for that comment. I, for one, prefer to refer to it as “sissy boy, make believe, boo boos.”

    [/QUOTE]

    ClapLOLLOLLOL
  • #267352

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=kevbo]”Feigning injury”, a bit harsh.
    http://youtu.be/URzKQc4s7Wc%5B/QUOTE%5D

    That was your take on the principlepoint of my post? Well, I suppose that response, if nothing else, tends toprove the point: the complete disconnect between the primacy of football, the so-calledbeautiful game, over what are self-evidently deemed the less important issuesto the great unwashed masses. Jesus wept! Stadiums instead of schools. Stadiumsinstead of hospitals. Stadiums for bread and circus served as entertainment forfools. Go ahead; watch your mindless games while the country scores an own goalin a quagmire of illiteracy.

  • #267363

    kevin owen
    Participant

    Why be such a sanctimonious arse?
    Am I only allowed to comment on the principle point of your post?
    I will watch the games and therefore I think all schools and hospitals should be knocked down.

  • #267365

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Seriously to compare going to World Cup games to going along with Nazi Germany is just crazy.

  • #267366

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy]Seriously to compare going to World Cup games to going along with Nazi Germany is just crazy. [/QUOTE]

    Not at all!
    If he were calling the supporters of the World Cup Nazis then yes, that would be insane. But the parallel of people going along with the flow while bad things happen is relevant in this case. Calling the parallel crazy is a knee jerk reaction to the extremity of the comparison but it is valid.
  • #267370

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    There is a difference between going along with people being murdered and going along with soccer stadiums being built. I for one don’t have a problem with building the Corinthians stadium, some others yes, but this stadium will actually be used.

  • #267371

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    That being said, I wouldn’t go to games in Qatar if they get the cup because there are literally people being killed.

  • #267373

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy]There is a difference between going along with people being murdered and going along with soccer stadiums being built. I for one don’t have a problem with building the Corinthians stadium, some others yes, but this stadium will actually be used. [/QUOTE]

    But the underlying parallel is still valid and it is much more than about “stadiums being built”. It’s a life time of being corn-holed by a government and system.
  • #267375

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Sure, no doubt, but not going to the world cup isn’t how you change that lifetime. It’s by voting out corrupt parties and politicians. It’s about not driving in the bus lanes, it’s about paying your taxes, not cutting in lines and stopping the whole jeitinho phenomena. Not going to the stadium isn’t going to change the political system.

  • #267378

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy]That being said, I wouldn’t go to games in Qatar if they get the cup because there are literally people being killed. [/QUOTE]

    This is a perfect exampleof shallow thinking. You wouldn’t go to Qatar because people are being killed. That’sa praiseworthy reason and sends a message. So what then is the likely outcomewhen a country doesn’t have enough hospitals? Eh√¢‚Ǩ¬¶em√¢‚Ǩ¬¶let me think√¢‚Ǩ¬¶ That’s a bithard. How do you think Germany will do in the World Cup?

  • #267380

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=kevbo]Why be such a sanctimonious arse?
    Am I only allowed to comment on the principle point of your post?
    I will watch the games and therefore I think all schools and hospitals should be knocked down.
    [/QUOTE]

    That’s not even virtuous sarcasm.Stop being such a child.
  • #267382

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA][QUOTE=andrewfroboy]Seriously to compare going to World Cup games to going along with Nazi Germany is just crazy. [/QUOTE]

    Not at all!
    If he were calling the supporters of the World Cup Nazis then yes, that would be insane. But the parallel of people going along with the flow while bad things happen is relevant in this case. Calling the parallel crazy is a knee jerk reaction to the extremity of the comparison but it is valid.

    [/QUOTE]

    Thank you for your support.My example about Germany was, as you rightly understood, is that apathy is oneof the most dangerous attitudes in society.

  • #267383

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Not having hospitals is not related to the World Cup, you think if Brasil hadn’t hosted the world cup they would have instead invested the billions in hospitals? That is just naive to think.

  • #267385

    kevin owen
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Esprit] [QUOTE=kevbo]Why be such a sanctimonious arse?
    Am I only allowed to comment on the principle point of your post?
    I will watch the games and therefore I think all schools and hospitals should be knocked down.
    [/QUOTE]

    <span style=”font-size: 9pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;”>That’s not even virtuous sarcasm.
    Stop being such a child.</span>

    [/QUOTE]
    Try for once to be a little less pompous. It may be difficult to break the habit of a life time but give it a go.

  • #267391

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Steven][QUOTE=Esprit] often times feigning injury while writhing in faggoty agony onlyto fully recover seconds later.
    [/QUOTE]

    My, my. You might draw a bit of rainbow assault for that comment. I, for one, prefer to refer to it as “sissy boy, make believe, boo boos.”

    [/QUOTE]

    What was that about rugby players constantly pretending that they aren’t hurt while football players pretend that they are?
  • #267402

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=kevbo] [QUOTE=Esprit] [QUOTE=kevbo] Why be such a sanctimonious arse?
    Am I only allowed to comment on the principle point of your post?
    I will watch the games and therefore I think all schools and hospitals should be knocked down.
    [/QUOTE]

    That’s not even virtuous sarcasm. Stop being such a child.

    [/QUOTE]
    Try for once to be a little less pompous. It may be difficult to break the habit of a life time but give it a go.[/QUOTE]

    Sanctimonious arse and now alifetime pomposity? Argumentum adhominem is not an argument you know and is more a girly thing. Say something aboutthe topic or, alternatively, control you emotions; otherwise you risk appearingto be something you’re not.

  • #267410

    kevin owen
    Participant

    I rest my case.

  • #267421

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=andrewfroboy]Not having hospitals is not related to the World Cup, you think if Brasil hadn’t hosted the world cup they would have instead invested the billions in hospitals? That is just naive to think. [/QUOTE]

    Of course I don’t thinkthat and which has nothing to do with the premise of my post. My point was thathalf-empty stadia would have a global media impact especially when linked to thepeople’s protest about the expenditure on the World Cup relative to the direlack of facilities for healthcare, education and a Brazil’s crippling infrastructure.Equally it would have a severe impact on the ill-afforded future Olympic Games.

    In truth Brazil doesn’tappear to have money to do most anything aside from meeting the monthlysalaries for the hoard of dumbass public employees and cronyism. Yet if moneycan be magically materialised by fair or foul means to fund hedonistic nonsensewhy not spend it on something that would have tangible and universal benefit tothe population as a whole?

  • #267422

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=kevbo]I rest my case.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, you go have a rest. Soft kitty, warm kitty little ball of fur…
  • #267465

    Ron
    Participant

    Brazil’s child sex workers forced to cash in on World Cup

    “These girls come from extreme poverty, a culture of social exclusion and a tradition of profound disrespect for women,” Antonia Lima Sousa, a state prosecutor, told CNN.

    The above comment highlights the real problem.
    I am tired of the media using tourists as the prime offenders in child sex abuse.
    The real problem is, as stated above, the profound disrespect Brazilian men have for women. They are the real problem, not the handful of tourists who come here. This situation will not go away when the ‘Copa’ is over
  • #267472

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron] The real problem is, as stated above, the profound disrespect Brazilian men have for women. They are the real problem, not the handful of tourists who come here.[/QUOTE]
    This is literally one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. Child sex tourism is a worldwide problem, and when you bring your hate for Brazilian men into it, you just sound… Well… Ignorant. Educate yourself, please. ObviouslyGYN2014-06-08 12:29:00

  • #267474

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=ObviouslyGYN] [QUOTE=Captain Ron] The real problem is, as stated above, the profound disrespect Brazilian men have for women. They are the real problem, not the handful of tourists who come here.[/QUOTE]
    This is literally one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. Child sex tourism is a worldwide problem, and when you bring your hate for Brazilian men into it, you just sound… Well… Ignorant. Educate yourself, please. [/QUOTE]
    The child sex trade is mainly a Brazilian thing with over 1,700 roadside locations identified by the Fedal Police. Frequently gas stations for the local Brazilian men… No Gringoes. Yes a few bars in the NE happen to have some gringo clients but the sex thing is 99.9%’Brazilian men including judges and people of all social classes.

  • #267475

    Denise
    Participant

    Well, despite all the negativity on this forum against Brazil and FOOTBALL, I’m happy to arrive back home tomorrow and will stay until the Copa ends.
    Football is not the best international sport in my home country but every kid knows how to play and we like it. Hockey, yeah I learned how to skate before how to walk.
    After spending 6 months away from Brazil (which is officially my second home), I truly like to get back for a vacation from the USofA, off the stress of the high gear business world.
    I’m providing shelter for huge amount (around 50) of gringoes from all over the world. Australians and Koreans are the longest travelers.
    I’m welcoming them as well as I can and not highlighting any of the negativity around (and cleaning the dog poop of the driveway).
    Brazil is third world country and it shows, so what? Traffic will be a nightmare, but that’s Business As Usual in Brazil.
    Most of the guys I’m receiving are eager to get some real adventure, I’m sure they will find what they are looking for. They will remember it the rest of their life, hopefully some will come back. I’m trying to promote the local outdoor tourism as it is not very well done by the locals at all.
    tamte2014-06-08 14:38:46

  • #267479

    Ron
    Participant

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] [QUOTE=ObviouslyGYN] [QUOTE=Captain Ron] The real problem is, as stated above, the profound disrespect Brazilian men have for women. They are the real problem, not the handful of tourists who come here.[/QUOTE]
    This is literally one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. Child sex tourism is a worldwide problem, and when you bring your hate for Brazilian men into it, you just sound… Well… Ignorant. Educate yourself, please. [/QUOTE]
    The child sex trade is mainly a Brazilian thing with over 1,700 roadside locations identified by the Fedal Police. Frequently gas stations for the local Brazilian men… No Gringoes. Yes a few bars in the NE happen to have some gringo clients but the sex thing is 99.9%’Brazilian men including judges and people of all social classes. [/QUOTE]

    Thank you GB of F for stating the facts. Does that make you ignorant and uneducated too?
  • #267480

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=tamte]Well, despite all the negativity on this forum against Brazil and FOOTBALL, I’m happy to arrive back home tomorrow and will stay until the Copa ends.
    Football is not the best international sport in my home country but every kid knows how to play and we like it. Hockey, yeah I learned how to skate before how to walk.
    After spending 6 months away from Brazil (which is officially my second home), I truly like to get back for a vacation from the USofA, off the stress of the high gear business world.
    I’m providing shelter for huge amount (around 50) of gringoes from all over the world. Australians and Koreans are the longest travelers.
    I’m welcoming them as well as I can and not highlighting any of the negativity around (and cleaning the dog poop of the driveway).
    Brazil is third world country and it shows, so what? Traffic will be a nightmare, but that’s Business As Usual in Brazil.
    Most of the guys I’m receiving are eager to get some real adventure, I’m sure they will find what they are looking for. They will remember it the rest of their life, hopefully some will come back. I’m trying to promote the local outdoor tourism as it is not very well done by the locals at all.
    [/QUOTE]

    Unless you’re sheltering 50gringo sex tourists I fail to see the context of your post on this thread.

  • #267487

    Denise
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Esprit] “>Unless you’re sheltering 50
    gringo sex tourists I fail to see the context of your post on this thread.  QUOTE]
    Hopefully not sex tourists, many of them young couples (of course they do have sex, but together). Young career people, some back pack travelers, group of 4 girls, about to go trekking into Peru after the few games, I can’t think they’d be after any Brazilian guys to get laid.
    I’d imagine sex tourist are older, married, pretty wealthy, doing ok financially, men, who have boring sex life, who’d never stay in my humble place.
    I have video surveillance so I can keep eye on it.

  • #267515

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    “It’s an organized religion and FIFA is its church, Just think about it. Its leader is infallible. It compels South American countries to spend money they don’t have building opulent cathedrals, and it may ultimately be responsible for the deaths of shocking numbers of people in the Middle East. But to millions of people like me, it is the guardian of the only thing in their lives that gives them meaning.”

    From a John Oliver rant on the World Cup, worth a watch

    andrewfroboy2014-06-09 14:31:44

  • #267518

    Anonymous

    f**k! Just sit back and relax everyone.

  • #267520

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=jtp_redson]f**k! Just sit back and relax everyone. [/QUOTE]

    Isn’t that the advice theygive to women that are about to be raped?

  • #267522

    Ron
    Participant
  • #267541

    Finrudd
    Participant

    Confusion over the first game the Public Holiday in Sao Paulo reigns supreme. Haddad has declared a Public Holiday for Sao Paulo for everyone except for essential services, including restaurants, bars and services – kind of vague. The idea is to take some of the strain off the public transport system and roads, and ‘For the English to see’ make the city seem less congested and chaotic.

    Many companies still don’t know if they are working or not, with a couple of days to go only. This includes local restaurants and even large supermarkets – when I called Zafira to see about their opening hours, the lady first said ‘we are closed as it’s a holiday’ and then in the background her supervisor told her it hasn’t been confirmed yet, which she sulkily passed on! Big smileThey are waiting for Instructions From The South…
  • #267542

    agri2001
    Participant

    I think whenever Brazil plays, it would be like a national holiday.

    I know in my neck of the woods all the wannabees are taking the day off to “celebrate a win” and also the cup.
    They’ve already won it you know…
  • #267553

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    For all I know we have already lost.
    And yes, this holiday stuff is just for the English to see.

  • #267570

    Fernandez
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven]For all I know we have already lost.
    [/QUOTE]
    And just who is “we”?
    The Dutch team, holed up in your neighborhood?
    Or is it Argentina, the nationality of your Consort?
    ferrar2014-06-12 00:48:47

  • #267572

    Ron
    Participant
  • #267588

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron]http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/terrible-state-of-manaus-stadium-pitch-proof-brazil-still-isnt-ready-for-the-2014-fifa-world-cup/story-fnkjl6g2-1226951716003

    Terrible state of Manaus stadium pitch proof Brazil still isn’t ready for the 2014 FIFA World Cup

    [/QUOTE]

    People need to stopcomplaining. It should be remembered that Brazil is a young country and grassneeds time to grow. The Portuguese brought the wrong grass with them when theexploited, raped and colonised this wonderful country. So please understand andbe patient while order and progress is just over the horizon [or maybe just alittle further].

  • #267590

    The Copa begins! And who’s paying the bill√¢‚Ǩ¬¶?
    Quite sometime ago there was a post about the various taxes one pays on their purchases, which are now detailed on your receipt. I paid attention for awhile, but then become complacent as to how much of MY money was going to Dilma’s coffers.
    In preparation for the irregular hours the next few weeks of ‘business as usual’, during the Copa do Mundo (and potential holidays everytime Brasil wins), I decided to stock up yesterday on a trip to a large supermarket chain. Below is a photo of the total bill: R$763,32.
    What shocked me was the total below that, the amount of TAXES I paid on those purchases: R$233,46!!! That equated to 30.59% of my payment. Censored
    I have definitely made my ‘contribution’ in paying for the Copa! If only my payment was limited to this one purchase.

    In reviewing the receipt, I found certain incongruities for the associated taxes paid to Dilma. For example, a loaf of fresh baked baguette had no tax, but breadcrumbs (pao torrado moido), which appeared to be nothing more than yesterday’s baguette run through a blender, tied up in a small plastic bag, was hit with a 17% tax!
    Strangely, an imported chocolate bar, Lindt from Switzerland, had zero tax associated with it, but a cheap nylon Brasilian flag, made in China (Brasil’s principal trade partner), also had a 17% tax added to it. IMO the flag should have been a ‘brinde’.
    Dog food, as well as beer, had no tax. Confused
    One would think that if beer was taxed in Brasil, ALL the expenses for education, health care, and public transport, which have gone ignored in order to build absurdly expensive stadiums to be used these next few weeks, could easily be paid for… annually, over and over again. Yet to tax beer in Brasil would certainly result in a revolution against the putas of the PT. LampEvil Smile
    So how are YOU contributing to the payment to host the Copa in Brasil?
    Gringo.Floripa2014-06-12 12:42:52

  • #267592

    celso
    Member

    Dog food is taxed at about 40%.
    So is beer!GreatBallsoFire2014-06-12 13:19:30

  • #267594

    JHZcali24
    Member

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron]http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/terrible-state-of-manaus-stadium-pitch-proof-brazil-still-isnt-ready-for-the-2014-fifa-world-cup/story-fnkjl6g2-1226951716003

    Terrible state of Manaus stadium pitch proof Brazil still isn’t ready for the 2014 FIFA World Cup

    [/QUOTE] Yes. They are still working on the outside of the arena (parking area, ect.), but it rained really good Wednesday, so maybe the grass will grow by next week. Either way I think it is one of the nicer stadiums built for this. Too bad they never built the promised monorail though.

  • #267596

    ukbr
    Member

    “People need to stopcomplaining. It should be remembered that Brazil is a young country and grassneeds time to grow. The Portuguese brought the wrong grass with them when theexploited, raped and colonised this wonderful country. So please understand andbe patient while order and progress is just over the horizon [or maybe just alittle further]. “
    A young country? Same age as the USA yes?
    Grass planted specifically for this World Cup in a new stadium grows at a different rate in Brazil than the rest of the world?
    The Portuguese brought this specific grass for the new stadium? Who knew?
    Be patient?….the WC ends when?
    Bizarro…….Clap

  • #267598

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    Goooooooooooooooallllll lol

  • #267606

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    Had fun at the stadium, thought the game was pretty poorly played by Brasil, Croatia showed heart and deserved at least a draw. Refs handed the game to Brasil. The stadium was pretty and the logistics to arrive and leave were impressively smooth.

  • #267607

    jeb2886
    Member

    Oh god, our poor guests from Mexico got hit with a massive winter storm that has been drenching us since the morning! I haven’t seen this much rain during the day!

    We dropped them off, and it was pretty easy. The FIFA event yesterday in the city was easy to get to, and people seemed to enjoy it.
    Overall, it seems to be going pretty well in Natal.
  • #267672

    Ron
    Participant

    Now this is the Brasil I know.

    World Cup fans at Maracana stadium climb a dangerously wobbly staircase

  • #267774

    Timmanaus
    Member
    Now this is the gingoes.com I know

    KAKA2014-06-22 00:50:25

  • #267854

    Ron
    Participant
  • #267855

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    first, I had no idea what a sook is, but I gather it is someone who dives. Second, whoever wrote this article hasn’t watched a single game if they think Brasil doesn’t dive, they have the worst divers in the game. Got a PK on one and tried to get one on another, between Neymar, Marcelo and Fred they are the worst of divers. Here is a better diving article from the Wall Street Journal

  • #267856

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    Call me when there’s a fatality √¢‚Ǩ‚Äúyawn. Stern Smile

  • #267857

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Esprit] <span style=”font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; line-height: 115%; : rgb251, 251, 253;”>Call me when there’s a fatality √¢‚Ǩ‚Äú
    yawn.√Ǭ†Stern Smile</span><p =”Msonormal”><span style=”font-size:9.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: “Verdana”,”sans-serif”;:#FBFBFD”><o:p></o:p></span>[/QUOTE]
    I hear Suarez has Rabies.

  • #267859

    Anonymous

    sooks, divers, floppers…..

    Suarez has to spend 4 months in isolation, i hear.
    Tired of people saying “oh the US is losing! Aren’t you upseeeeeeeet?” nope. I’m upset because since I moved to Brazil the sele√ɬßão hasn’t played for crap. But I can’t say that out loud, can I.
  • #267862

    Andrewfroboy
    Participant

    USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who cares if we lose, we have played well and live to play another day in our group of death!!!!

  • #267906

    Ron
    Participant
    Not only a ‘biter’, but a liar. Uruguay’s shame.

    “after the impact … I lost my balance, making my body unstable and falling on top of my opponent.

    “At that moment I hit my face against the player leaving a small bruise on my cheek and a strong pain in my teeth,”

    Uruguay striker Luis Suarez told FIFA panel bite was not deliberate

  • #267915

    kevin owen
    Participant

    So much for a “football mad nation”, the stadium in Fortaleza looks half empty.
    Surely it was a sell out?

  • #267916

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=kevbo] So much for a “football mad nation”, the stadium in Fortaleza looks half empty.
    Surely it was a sell out?[/QUOTE]
    People are all standing in the shade.

  • #267917

    lynchem
    Member

    I didn’t know the dutch could fly? What a great example of a bullsh*t penalty goal at the very end of the game.

  • #267929

    Fernandez
    Member

    Yet another infamous diving incident by Robben, who couldn’t secure a goal for his team any other way, except by conning the ref.
    A red card (against him) would have been far more appropriate.

  • #268218

    A concluding note of interest regarding ‘goals’, wins, and trophies√¢‚Ǩ¬¶.
    Nobel Prize winners, by country
    Germany 101
    Netherlands 19
    Argentina 5
    Brasil 0 Confused

  • #268219

    agri2001
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Gringo.Floripa]
    A concluding note of interest regarding ‘goals’, wins, and trophies√¢‚Ǩ¬¶.
    Nobel Prize winners, by country
    Germany 101
    Netherlands 19
    Argentina 5
    Brasil 0 Confused
    [/QUOTE]

    So what we are to surmise is that Brazil getting the stuffing’s beat out of them by Germany and Netherlands that they are a bunch of dumb asses?
    Then I agree….LOL
  • #268222

    celso
    Member

    Did you see Dilma’s sourpuss face as she handed the trophy to the German team. Her advisors must have told her not to smile. I understand she was being booed by the Brazilians in the stadium. Her reelection is now in danger. I think the replacements my be worse.GreatBallsoFire2014-07-14 14:32:55

  • #268228

    lynchem
    Member

    [QUOTE=Gringo.Floripa]
    A concluding note of interest regarding ‘goals’, wins, and trophies√¢‚Ǩ¬¶.
    Nobel Prize winners, by country
    Germany 101
    Netherlands 19
    Argentina 5
    Brasil 0 Confused
    [/QUOTE]

    Also us Jews hold more nobel prizes than you gentile! Wink
  • #268229

    Suiço
    Member

    Big smile

  • #268231

    lynchem
    Member

    [QUOTE=shinrai]Big smile

    [/QUOTE]

    Thanks for letting us know which service you use when servicing yourself….. Confused
    Also, that post and those uploads were done right after the game, you must have been under a rock if you didn’t see news regarding that last week…
  • #268232

    Suiço
    Member

    must admit i’ve been out of touch…pun intended.

  • #268233

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Leblon][QUOTE=Gringo.Floripa]
    A concluding note of interest regarding ‘goals’, wins, and trophies√¢‚Ǩ¬¶.
    Nobel Prize winners, by country
    Germany 101
    Netherlands 19
    Argentina 5
    Brasil 0 Confused
    [/QUOTE]

    Also us Jews hold more nobel prizes than you gentile! Wink

    [/QUOTE]

    Leblon, Ihope that you can appreciate the somewhat ironical juxtaposition between NoblePrizes, Germans, the Jews and how many more there might have been. On a lighternote I have the impression that you’ll need do more other than have the end ofyour penis trimmed if you aspire to any one of the Nobel Prizes other than theone that has become akin to a cereal box gift; the Nobel Peace Prize. Incidentally,what was the outcome following the submission of your thesis?

  • #268235

    Finrudd
    Participant

    [QUOTE=shinrai]Big smile

    [/QUOTE]

    The last time I saw 11 Germans screwing a Brazilian I was asked to leave the LAN house.. Big smile
  • #268236

    lynchem
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=Leblon][QUOTE=Gringo.Floripa]
    A concluding note of interest regarding ‘goals’, wins, and trophies√¢‚Ǩ¬¶.
    Nobel Prize winners, by country
    Germany 101
    Netherlands 19
    Argentina 5
    Brasil 0 Confused
    [/QUOTE]

    Also us Jews hold more nobel prizes than you gentile! Wink

    [/QUOTE]

    Leblon, Ihope that you can appreciate the somewhat ironical juxtaposition between NoblePrizes, Germans, the Jews and how many more there might have been. On a lighternote I have the impression that you’ll need do more other than have the end ofyour penis trimmed if you aspire to any one of the Nobel Prizes other than theone that has become akin to a cereal box gift; the Nobel Peace Prize. Incidentally,what was the outcome following the submission of your thesis?

    [/QUOTE]

    Thought you’d never ask. The subjectivity in question was the irony of doing a masters degree, in any fashion (MBA, MSc et al), related to business itself against the tangibility of starting a company from scratch. This included an in-depth focus on tuition costs vs initial investment, also, the time frame of riding your startup to scalability and the time, typically 2 years for a traditional MBA. And their final net return.
    The presentation, was somewhat open call for spectators, and was a bit nerve testing yet exciting because I’m seemingly the only gringo around. It was well received. Albeit I have pointed out, and continue to do so, that conducting innovate research in a unfamiliar environment both provide leveraged and strenuous assets. That depends solely upon one’s effort to find the route to success and quality research that ultimate becomes defendable and upon success and approval, embraced.
    Some revisions and clarity on concept, specifically after further engagement and discussion, but otherwise it was a swish slash incredible experience.

    Leblon2014-07-14 18:36:13

  • #268238

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Leblon][QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=Leblon][QUOTE=Gringo.Floripa]
    A concluding note of interest regarding ‘goals’, wins, and trophies√¢‚Ǩ¬¶.
    Nobel Prize winners, by country
    Germany 101
    Netherlands 19
    Argentina 5
    Brasil 0 Confused
    [/QUOTE]

    Also us Jews hold more nobel prizes than you gentile! Wink

    [/QUOTE]

    Leblon, Ihope that you can appreciate the somewhat ironical juxtaposition between NoblePrizes, Germans, the Jews and how many more there might have been. On a lighternote I have the impression that you’ll need do more other than have the end ofyour penis trimmed if you aspire to any one of the Nobel Prizes other than theone that has become akin to a cereal box gift; the Nobel Peace Prize. Incidentally,what was the outcome following the submission of your thesis?

    [/QUOTE]

    Thought you’d never ask. The subjectivity in question was the irony of doing a masters degree, in any fashion (MBA, MSc et al), related to business itself against the tangibility of starting a company from scratch. This included an in-depth focus on tuition costs vs initial investment, also, the time frame of riding your startup to scalability and the time, typically 2 years for a traditional MBA. And their final net return.
    The presentation, was somewhat open call for spectators, and was a bit nerve testing yet exciting because I’m seemingly the only gringo around. It was well received. Albeit I have pointed out, and continue to do so, that conducting innovate research in a unfamiliar environment both provide leveraged and strenuous assets. That depends solely upon one’s effort to find the route to success and quality research that ultimate becomes defendable and upon success and approval, embraced.
    Some revisions and clarity on concept, specifically after further engagement and discussion, but otherwise it was a swish slash incredible experience.

    [/QUOTE]

    Say what?
  • #268240

    lynchem
    Member

    You’ll have to be more specific then my dear if you wish me to answer. And unless you’re setting me up for another inquisition, I’m a few glasses deep!

  • #268241

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Leblon]You’ll have to be more specific then my dear if you wish me to answer. And unless you’re setting me up for another inquisition, I’m a few glasses deep! [/QUOTE]

    A fewglasses! It reads like you’re looking through a glass darkly! You’ll regretthis in the morning.

  • #272435

    Ron
    Participant
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