Why are foreign guys popular with the ladies here?

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  • #200032

    Cookie
    Member

    Is it the way they look? Because they think they might have money? Their personality?
    Are some nationalities more popular than others?

  • #200033

    Anonymous

    Money and a visa to Europe/USA.
    Use it to your advantage to get some super hot chicks in bed.

  • #200037

    mozcikr
    Member

    [QUOTE=Twirly] Money and a visa to Europe/USA.
    Use it to your advantage to get some super hot chicks in bed.[/QUOTE]
    It’s gotta be something else, too. I have a friend who is a gringo and he is not attractive (to American women), he lives in a kitchenette, has no car, makes enough money to live comfortably – to his standards – no extra, hasn’t returned to the US since he moved here 5 years ago and has no desire to live there again. But he gets girls. He is VERY blonde and he says that that helps him.

  • #200038

    Hakson
    Member

    Gringos may be more popular with prostitutes and women of lower class, otherwise it could be… love.

  • #200040

    Micklous
    Member

    [QUOTE=Meredith81] [QUOTE=Twirly] Money and a visa to Europe/USA.
    Use it to your advantage to get some super hot chicks in bed.[/QUOTE]

    It’s gotta be something else, too. I have a friend who is a gringo and he is not attractive (to American women), he lives in a kitchenette, has no car, makes enough money to live comfortably – to his standards – no extra, hasn’t returned to the US since he moved here 5 years ago and has no desire to live there again. But he gets girls. He is VERY blonde and he says that that helps him.[/QUOTE] LOLLOLMaybe the women who get with him want a gringo baby?

  • #200048

    Milenko
    Participant

    Maybe because of our looks and white skin ….. Embarrassed?!?

  • #200049

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=braza1000]Gringos may be more popular with prostitutes and women of lower class, otherwise it could be… love.[/QUOTE] Nothing to do with the lower classes of prostitutes. An educated gringo is light years ahead of the macho mama’s boy Brazilian in terms of how to treat a woman. Also free English lessons from a native speaker… Then you have the genetic desire to diversify the gene pool. Hybrids have better health as they have a more diversified collection of DNA, rather than duplicating DNA through inbreeding. So there is a natural tendency to mate with somebody who is distantly related within the gene pool. Then you have the Xuxa/Disney/Snow White effect. On a subconcious level Brazilians have been flooded since birth with propaganda the white is good. They see this in the movie stars, politicians, rich and famous. So there are a bunch of women who want a lighter skinned child. A buddy’s wife’s sister, an unmarried educated doctor, decided to get pregnant by a blond fellow she liked because she was getting older in her thirties and wanted a blond kid… Yes some see a green card and a way to climb socially. I know of there are lots of those at the Western Union offices cashing in the child support payments from abroad, often from various fathers… GreatBallsoFire2012-02-12 12:10:38

  • #200050

    Anonymous

    My awesome blue eyes makes them want to have babies with me.

  • #200055

    Hakson
    Member

    [QUOTE=] GreatBallsoFire
    Yes some see a green card and a way to climb socially. I know of there are lots of those at the Western Union offices cashing in the child support payments from abroad, often from various fathers.[/QUOTE] Now… your statements make me think it has to do with lower classes OR prostitutes… I agree with you!The desire to diversify the gene pool can be on subconscious level of many Gringos too. Maybe it is not a Brazilian thing.But this thread has nothing to do with Brazilian women having or wanting gringo babies.braza10002012-02-12 14:01:11

  • #200059

    Milenko
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Twirly]My awesome blue eyes makes them want to have babies with me.[/QUOTE]
    Did not work in my case, I’m white blue eyes, still that cheating no good ex girlfriend of mine got pregnant by 47 years old Brazilian. He sort of “furo camisinha” If to believe her story. Well what can I say I’m not popular brand i.e. american, english, italian etc.

  • #200060

    Gianni
    Member

    It’s cause we’re pimps!
    The ignorance of the typical brazilian is extremely superior to locals of the western world. IE: ‘Educated Gringos’ – GBF.
    It makes sense they’re natural interest in foreign goods. A curiosity.
    It’s the same sort of result if you find a brazilian more attractive than some female back home!

  • #200061

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=braza1000] [QUOTE=] GreatBallsoFire
    Yes some see a green card and a way to climb socially. I know of there are lots of those at the Western Union offices cashing in the child support payments from abroad, often from various fathers.[/QUOTE] Now… your statements make me think it has to do with lower classes OR prostitutes… I agree with you!The desire to diversify the gene pool can be on subconscious level of many Gringos too. Maybe it is not a Brazilian thing.But this thread has nothing to do with Brazilian women having or wanting gringo babies.[/QUOTE] Unless you are some type of alien lifeforn, babies are the end result and there are hundreds of examples here.

  • #200065

    Hakson
    Member

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire][QUOTE=braza1000] [QUOTE=] GreatBallsoFire
    Yes some see a green card and a way to climb socially. I know of there are lots of those at the Western Union offices cashing in the child support payments from abroad, often from various fathers.[/QUOTE] Now… your statements make me think it has to do with lower classes OR prostitutes… I agree with you!The desire to diversify the gene pool can be on subconscious level of many Gringos too. Maybe it is not a Brazilian thing.But this thread has nothing to do with Brazilian women having or wanting gringo babies.[/QUOTE] Unless you are some type of alien lifeforn, babies are the end result and there are hundreds of examples here. [QUOTE=] OK. Maybe we’re both partially right![/QUOTE]

  • #200066

    micko
    Member

    Why are foreign guys popular in Brazil? Maybe the girls see the local guys as spoiled and irresponsible mama’s boys who’s families wouldn’t consider letting them marry below their own inflated perception of social position.

  • #200090

    Paulo
    Participant

    [QUOTE=ptic]
    Did not work in my case, I’m white blue eyes, still that cheating no good ex girlfriend of mine got pregnant by 47 years old Brazilian. He sort of “furo camisinha” If to believe her story. Well what can I say I’m not popular brand i.e. american, english, italian etc.[/QUOTE]
    Hey man. Just because you have blue eyes doesn’t make you white or a real gringo. You’re from Slovenia, almost a Turk. cardi2012-02-12 18:31:26

  • #200099

    Anonymous

    ^^Ouch, a Turk?
    A strong viking with red hair and blue eyes is what the brazzer bitches wants and I’m always ready to fulfill their dreams.
    I will never forget in some god forsaken city in the interior of Paraiba where the girls wanted to touch my skin as it was so soft and white.
    I guess I’m exotic to them and that they want to try something new.

  • #200102

    Gianni
    Member

    wow, you duche!

  • #200134
    [QUOTE=DUNGA]Why are foreign guys popular in Brazil? Maybe the girls see the local guys as spoiled and irresponsible mama’s boys who’s families wouldn’t consider letting them marry below their own inflated perception of social position.[/QUOTE]

    Foriegn people are popular and unpopular everywhere.

    [QUOTE=frank4000]I think people are attracted to one another for the same reason everywhere, but exotic choice is always an added attraction..[/QUOTE]

    Exactly ! Smile
  • #200137

    pmcalif
    Member

    [QUOTE=flamingringo]Is it the way they look? Because they think they might have money? Their personality?
    Are some nationalities more popular than others?[/QUOTE]
    Gringo is the mystery, gringo is the challenge, gringo has class, gringo speaks with sotaque que encanta, gringo is cool.

  • #200140

    Skavs
    Member

    well because we are better in bed then the brasilien guys;;

    my women tell me that all the time;;;;
    now expecting twins;;;
    what can i say;;;
    pkClap
  • #200146

    Anonymous

    ^^Problems with your keyboard;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;?

  • #200858

    mozcikr
    Member

    [QUOTE=Isa26] [QUOTE=Meredith81] [QUOTE=Twirly] Money and a visa to Europe/USA. Use it to your advantage to get some super hot chicks in bed.[/QUOTE] It’s gotta be something else, too. I have a friend who is a gringo and he is not attractive (to American women), he lives in a kitchenette, has no car, makes enough money to live comfortably – to his standards – no extra, hasn’t returned to the US since he moved here 5 years ago and has no desire to live there again. But he gets girls. He is VERY blonde and he says that that helps him.[/QUOTE]

     

    LOLLOL Maybe the women who get with him want a gringo baby?

    [/QUOTE]
    Yes, I’d have to say it’s this. He has a girlfriend who always says “bebe galego” whenever she sees a blonde baby. I don’t think she realizes that just because he’s blonde doesn’t mean that her baby with him will be.
    As for the comment about beautiful blue eyes – I agree with this. I know that people here really hope that my son (who will be born in a couple of months) will be born with blue eyes like me. What they don’t realize is that the chances of that are slim to none since my husband is moreno. That comment is royally annoying.

  • #200872

    Its because then they could get a way to move to another country, the country from which came the particular gringo.

  • #200901

    Gilmour
    Member

    1) I’m not bad looking
    2) I have a decent brain
    3) I’m not a bad person
    We’re trying to buy an apartment here, and the issue of the names on the escritura kept nagging my wife. I told her “After the small financing is paid off, I will do a doa√ßão to you.” She was still too paranoid, so we’re going to include her name on the financing just for her to be happy. BUT we may have to take her off the financing due to another “pepino” on her name.
    Does anyone know if CAIXA only does financing for Brazilian citizens, or do they provide financing for residents too?
    Anyways back on topic: she was really paranoid because she has lotsa stories about women she knows who got screwed over by their Brazilian husbands/boyfriends. Brazilian women think we’re different, but we’re really not that different. A gringo can come to Brazil and behave the same as a Brazilian guy. I think it’s just that their perception is different. Hey, let them think that way.
    Just because your friend doesn’t have a car doesn’t mean he’s a loser. Tecnically I don’t have a car, but my wife does. I don’t need one because I driver hers. Most everything I need is within a 400 meter radius of where I live. I’m sorry, I just can’t be like the Brazilians that get in their cars to drive less than 1 km.

  • #201031

    Micklous
    Member

    [QUOTE=Meredith81] [QUOTE=Isa26] [QUOTE=Meredith81] [QUOTE=Twirly] Money and a visa to Europe/USA. Use it to your advantage to get some super hot chicks in bed.[/QUOTE] It’s gotta be something else, too. I have a friend who is a gringo and he is not attractive (to American women), he lives in a kitchenette, has no car, makes enough money to live comfortably – to his standards – no extra, hasn’t returned to the US since he moved here 5 years ago and has no desire to live there again. But he gets girls. He is VERY blonde and he says that that helps him.[/QUOTE]

    LOLLOLMaybe the women who get with him want a gringo baby? [/QUOTE]

    Yes, I’d have to say it’s this. He has a girlfriend who always says “bebe galego” whenever she sees a blonde baby. I don’t think she realizes that just because he’s blonde doesn’t mean that her baby with him will be.

    As for the comment about beautiful blue eyes – I agree with this. I know that people here really hope that my son (who will be born in a couple of months) will be born with blue eyes like me. What they don’t realize is that the chances of that are slim to none since my husband is moreno. That comment is royally annoying.[/QUOTE] Yes,everybody in Brasil loves blonde,blue/green eyed people and babies or as they say,they want a Johnson Baby. Brasil is a very mixed races country,so you never know what your baby might look like,but I understand your annoyance. Congratulations btw!

  • #201040

    kevin owen
    Participant

    Brazilians getting into their cars todrive less than 1km,you are so right.Where I live the neighbours literally will drive to a house 60m away.When I asked my wife why they did this she said they want everyone to know they have been invited to someones house!! Johnny no mates.

  • #201076

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=frank4000]
    sponge i think caixa only does financing for citizens. Looking into that myself. I will let you know. [/QUOTE]
    I couldn’t find anything on the actual loan itself, but this is if you want to use FGTS:
    Requisitos para contrata√ßão
    Ser brasileiro nato ou naturalizado ou, se estrangeiro, detentor de visto permanente no país;
    Ser maior de 18 anos ou emancipado;
    Possuir capacidade civil;
    Possuir idoneidade cadastral;
    Possuir capacidade de pagamento;
    Não ser proprietário ou comprador de outro imóvel residencial no atual local de domicílio/resid√™ncia, nem na localidade onde se situa o imóvel objeto da opera√ßão;
    Para cobertura securitária ou do Fundo Garantidor, a idade do proponente mais idoso, somada ao prazo de amortiza√ßão, não poderá ultrapassar 80 anos.
    http://www.caixa.gov.br/habitacao/aquisicao_residencial/novo/carta_cred_fgts/hab_res_aq_nv_fgtind_det.asp
    I just need a small loan. Caixa appears to be the cheapest around, but they are still NOT cheap.

  • #201078

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Twirly] ^^Problems with your keyboard;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;?[/QUOTE]
    Nope, too much bash shell programming….

  • #201079

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=spongebob] 1) I’m not bad looking[/QUOTE]
    Your avatar shows the opposite.
    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    Does anyone know if CAIXA only does financing for Brazilian citizens, or do they provide financing for residents too?
    [/QUOTE]
    They do, with BR proof of income.
    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    Most everything I need is within a 400 meter radius of where I live. I’m sorry, I just can’t be like the Brazilians that get in their cars to drive less than 1 km.
    [/QUOTE]
    How unamerican. I knew someone in the states that got in her car to get the paper a the end of the 150 m driveway

  • #201080

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=frank4000]
    sponge i think caixa only does financing for citizens. Looking into that myself. I will let you know.[/QUOTE]
    Wrong, they do. You’ll need a Br source of income.

  • #201095

    Denise
    Participant

    [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=frank4000]

    sponge i think caixa only does financing for citizens. Looking into that myself. I will let you know.[/QUOTE]

    Wrong, they do. You’ll need a Br source of income.[/QUOTE] Mostre a “declara√ßão de renda” or “comprovante de renda” as they say here for the income statement, and there you go. Some banks require some period (6 months) of actions in the bank account. Money in – money out (movimento). The same thing in US, if you are not US citizen and have no credit history, you need to pay in cash. You can’t get credit card if you have no credit history. You can’t have credit history if you have no credit cardConfusedConfusedCryCryTongueTongueLOLLOLShocked

  • #201096

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=frank4000]
    sponge i think caixa only does financing for citizens. Looking into that myself. I will let you know.[/QUOTE]
    Wrong, they do. You’ll need a Br source of income.[/QUOTE]
    I use Caixa. Did not need to give BR source of income. I used my gringo charm….”me no speaky the Porkandcheese”

  • #201116

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=frank4000] really pm me the details
    [/QUOTE]
    it was a neighborhood branch in BH. I told the lady I taught English and she asked for my payment receipts, I told her didn’t have any. She said to make some and bring them later. We then continued opening my account.
    I never returned to that branch again.

  • #201122

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=frank4000] ok. teve sorte[/QUOTE]
    i think it was actually my charm, but call it what you want

  • #201123

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=spongebob] 1) I’m not bad looking[/QUOTE]
    Your avatar shows the opposite.
    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    Does anyone know if CAIXA only does financing for Brazilian citizens, or do they provide financing for residents too?
    [/QUOTE]
    They do, with BR proof of income.
    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    Most everything I need is within a 400 meter radius of where I live. I’m sorry, I just can’t be like the Brazilians that get in their cars to drive less than 1 km.
    [/QUOTE]
    How unamerican. I knew someone in the states that got in her car to get the paper a the end of the 150 m driveway [/QUOTE]
    How unamerican!! Don’t compare me to those people AngryAngry. I’m going stateless and I will form my own country! Just kidding. I only want to have a Brazilian passport and that’s it.
    About the financing…
    Well, the corretor kept saying Ahh.. that’s nothing / no problem!! But you know how things are in Brazil; there’s always some VERY small detail that nobody ever said anything about that bites you in the bunda.
    Turns out that I have a nice amount of $$$ going into the bank account. Cash transactions are NOT included, unfortunately, even if I give a nota fiscal because I don’t deposit cash. I only need something like R$ 40k after my bigger sinal that I already paid. I don’t want to exchange dollars right now because I’m waiting for Gringo.Floripa’sexchange rate prediction of R$ 2,40 before I exchange dollars. I have a feeling I’ll be waiting until 2020 for that though LOL
    Some of the quotes they were giving me were really high, like R$ 1.600/month for a R$ 180.000 loan. The told me the taxa de juros √© “apenas” 8% e não tem taxas “extras” – ah tá! veremos!

  • #201125

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=Isa26][QUOTE=Meredith81] [QUOTE=Isa26] [QUOTE=Meredith81] [QUOTE=Twirly] Money and a visa to Europe/USA. Use it to your advantage to get some super hot chicks in bed.[/QUOTE] It’s gotta be something else, too. I have a friend who is a gringo and he is not attractive (to American women), he lives in a kitchenette, has no car, makes enough money to live comfortably – to his standards – no extra, hasn’t returned to the US since he moved here 5 years ago and has no desire to live there again. But he gets girls. He is VERY blonde and he says that that helps him.[/QUOTE]

    LOLLOLMaybe the women who get with him want a gringo baby?

    [/QUOTE]
    Yes, I’d have to say it’s this. He has a girlfriend who always says “bebe galego” whenever she sees a blonde baby. I don’t think she realizes that just because he’s blonde doesn’t mean that her baby with him will be.
    As for the comment about beautiful blue eyes – I agree with this. I know that people here really hope that my son (who will be born in a couple of months) will be born with blue eyes like me. What they don’t realize is that the chances of that are slim to none since my husband is moreno. That comment is royally annoying.[/QUOTE]

    Yes,everybody in Brasil loves blonde,blue/green eyed people and babies or as they say,they want a Johnson Baby.
    Brasil is a very mixed races country,so you never know what your baby might look like,but I understand your annoyance.
    Congratulations btw!

    [/QUOTE]
    My wife has dark brown/black hair and brown eyes. Her grandmother was a mulatta. I have brown hair blue/green eyes. He has green eyes (That tells you that I have some pretty powerful man genes! LOL)
    spongebob2012-02-22 05:05:08

  • #201127

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=frank4000]lol. 900 us a month for 100k us what is the term?[/QUOTE]
    They’ve been quoting me at 30 years. That’s too long. I HATE paying juros. I would want to pay it off in 3 years at the most and be done with it. The cool thing is that this property is R$ 50k- 70k undervalued relative to everything else in the area. The owner wanted to sell “quick” which is good for me.

  • #201134

    Gilmour
    Member

    No, I’m in small town in boonies, Minas Gerais. What? Do all the gringos live in RJ or SP? The problem with this area is that there is very little “oferta” so people who build here can ask for just about anything. Getting in the downtown area also drives the cost way up. The benefit though is that you drive much less.
    Drive an hour a way to a city the same size or larger, and there’s tons of supply and it’s very easily to get a good place for about the same price. I think it’s a [negative] characteristic of this city.
    Cash is always much easier.

  • #201145

    Gilmour
    Member

    Frank, you sound like WENGER.
    I live here because I’m married, **** * *******, and have a son here. My life is here. You [people] have to get out more and get to know Brasil. Mulher bonita não falta no Brasil. I know São Paulo, Floripa, Minas, & Rio very well. There’s hot women all over this wonderful country, but in Minas, you have less “shrimp*”.LOL<– if you want to know what this means, ask Sven.. he gotta know. If not, he spends waaaaaay too much time on this site.
    * Exceptions apply.
    spongebob2012-02-21 19:17:01

  • #201162

    Gilmour
    Member

    frank, I did misread it. Ask a Brazilian what a woman “camarão” is…

  • #201168

    Paulo
    Participant

    o corpo é gostoso, mas a cabeça é um lixo.

  • #201186

    KellyBDot
    Member

    Sponge Bob – Did you pay your US alimony this month ?

  • #201223

    Gilmour
    Member

    @cardi.. ahhh.. finalmente!!
    @kurtz – dude/man/cara, get it through your head– I DON’T have a criminal record NOR do I owe anyone money, or any kids that “I know of” in the US. I live in Brazil because my life is here. When is your fly out date? Take a snap shot of the US in 2006, and that’s what’s in my head. Maybe the US is a Garden of Eden now. Who knows! I know that you are no Obama, nor am I extrapolating his ideals onto you.

  • #201234

    KellyBDot
    Member

    With respect Bob, why not just fess up ane come clean why you hate your home country the USA. Warrants, unpaid alimony, child support, judgements …. Who you running from Bob ?

  • #201239

    Mel_
    Member

    could it be that they are not Brazilian (infidelity) and are more independent (don’t live with mammy until 30)?

  • #201258

    KellyBDot
    Member

    Foreign men are perceivedto be more successful …. and this is why you see so many average foreign men in Brasil, lying and telling women that they are more than they really are. Poverty in Brasil and the massive difference between the Have‚Äôs and Have Not‚Äôs makes many women believe foreign men are more valuable. I’d be willing to bet R$500 we have many men here, on this Forum doing that. Bob, GD, maybe even Sven; sorry to say.

  • #201269

    [quote]
    Why are foreign guys popular with the ladies here?
    [/quote]
    Because in the proletarian Brazilian mind an American-speaking foreigner must have alot of money.

  • #201281

    Gringos do well maybe because there are so many hot chicks!!! Brazilian men get away with so much cos they seem to think / know that if they get dumped there are more hot chicks waiting…

    In the UK – if you have a hot girl you stick with her cos the options are limited!!!
  • #201285

    Anonymous

    ^^UK women = Pasty looking whales with horrible teeth.
    No wonder binge drinking is so popular as that is the only way you can stand going down on those creatures.

  • #201320

    GringoBahia
    Member

    ^ I thought it was funny….
    So do Brazilian women like tall guys? Tongue

  • #201328

    [QUOTE=MakingTheMove] ^ I thought it was funny….So do Brazilian women like tall guys? Tongue
    [/QUOTE]
    Yep, they LOVE tall guys cause all the Brasilian men have pygmy blood and rarely stand over 170cm.

  • #201330

    Paulo
    Participant

    bemvindo de volta em sua nova roupagem errr talvez.

  • #201332

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=frank4000] [QUOTE=Twirly] ^^UK women = Pasty looking whales with horrible teeth.
    No wonder binge drinking is so popular as that is the only way you can stand going down on those creatures.[/QUOTE]
    eeww man. That is a visual you should have kept to yourself man.[/QUOTE]
    Can’t be unseen

  • #201345

    GringoBahia
    Member

    [QUOTE=Floriano] [QUOTE=MakingTheMove] ^ I thought it was funny….So do Brazilian women like tall guys? Tongue
    [/QUOTE]
    Yep, they LOVE tall guys cause all the Brasilian men have pygmy blood and rarely stand over 170cm. [/QUOTE]
    HA! 170cm? Are you joking? I’m 187cm on a bad day!
    Cool! I’m tall and sort of blondish! Looks like I’ve got my permanent visa =)

  • #201364

    Gilmour
    Member

    There are some processes that Brazilians just don’t/can’t see. It may be the same for people from Kurtz’s hometown, so I’m NOT saying it is exclusiely Brazilian. But sometimes I’m thinking of a problem and a solution. The Brazilians are oblivious. Sometimes the problem is complex and other times it’s easy. Lemme give you a small example:
    Dust on a door, booger on a wall, ketchup on the stove knob – Unless I tell them to clean it up, they will never clean it up. They don’t pay attention to the small details. This drives me crazy because I have to check behind everything that everyone does. This example is simplified, but it applies to nearly everything. If a Brazilian touches it, I have to check it. Maybe it’s the part of Brazil that I’m in, but here, people are friggin lazy– too lazy to even think. So.. are foreigners more valuable? If a foreigner can pay attention to the details and make money, then I think so.
    You don’t see me talking about how the USA is the best, and making comparisons with Brazil and other countries. I’m perfectly happy in Brazil.

  • #201365

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=Twirly]^^UK women = Pasty looking whales with horrible teeth.
    No wonder binge drinking is so popular as that is the only way you can stand going down on those creatures.[/QUOTE]
    Not all of them for sure! Back in the day, I spent time with lotsa girls from all over the UK – England, Scotland, Wales. They were all on holiday in Spain or Portugal. They wanted to have fun: get drunk and <censored>. That was a great time for me. A couple of them required beer goggles, but most of them were really nice looking. I really wish I could have kept up with them to see how their lives turned out today.
    Maybe one of these days I can tell the story of how I picked up a carload of hot Polish hitchhiking girls in Spain and took all of them back to my place! Since I was 18, I have had a great life. Brazil is only an extension of this! Fun is where you make it.

  • #201390

    evogel
    Member

    Ofcourse alot of the thigns being said are generalizations and we can;t put everyone in the world in the same category. I can only speak of my experience of women in U.S. and women in India. U.S. women in my opinion have tendency that causes huge issues within any relationship. Basically they want to be in control and have power. Being independent is not a “bad” thing but the problem that occurs within a relationship is this, for example.

    Woman – Sweety could you mow the lawn.
    Man – I will get around to it.
    Woman – The lawn really needs to get mowed because “whatever reason”
    Man – Ok thats fine I will get around to it
    At this point I find that “most” women …… in america anyhow would beat the issue into the ground until it is done or an argument. Or perhaps she would not liek the way he did it….. then complain or w/e.
    Ok with that being said….. this may be an issue with women in general or perhaps it varies from culture to culture…. And for me this is a personal thing that I just will not put up with. I “hope” this is less of an issue in Brazillian culture. Or am I deluding myself into thinking that the “majority” of women in brazil or more submissive and less dominating? And perhaps this is less of a culture issue and more of a gender issue.
    Now Indian culture …. has alot more submission but if the woman gets upset she will call everyone in the neighborhood due to the community based culture.
    Can anyone address the “generalities” that would occur in the context. For instance the issue of control “nagging” or tendencies within conflict resolution?
  • #201397

    Anonymous

    In India you burn your women alive…oh sorry it’s accidents in the kitchen

  • #201403

    evogel
    Member

    yeah ….. crap liek that does happen =( Arranged marriage downfall.

  • #202109

    RBtee
    Member

    The same reason why foreign women are popular with Americans. The exotic factor.

  • #202171

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=FloripaRawb]The same reason why foreign women are popular with Americans. The exotic factor. [/QUOTE]
    Hmm.. nobody is perfect, but the comments about American women wanting “power” is interesting. Personally, I never stuck with one long enough to know… The only thing I DO know for sure is that if you ever intend on talking about living abroad and geography in general, Brazilian women CLEARLY have American women beat.
    But Brazilian women aren’t perfect. It HAS been said in here already – most of the women where I live want to pick up their light-complected kids from the expensive crescis in nice expensive cars. These women are usually fairly nice looking for their ages, have nice hair, wear nice clothes, and wear the big bug-eye sun glasses. I see it every day. I wonder what the term is.. Maria-gastosas?

  • #202172

    RBtee
    Member

    Maria? Are they all Cruzeiro fans? /knee slap

  • #202178

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=FloripaRawb] Maria? Are they all Cruzeiro fans[/QUOTE]
    slow down there fella

  • #202212

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    Why? Perhaps it’s because there’s an air of quiet desperation about them; the audacity of hope?Geek

  • #202421

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=cobrakhan5]

    Ofcourse alot of the thigns being said are generalizations and we can;t put everyone in the world in the same category. I can only speak of my experience of women in U.S. and women in India. U.S. women in my opinion have tendency that causes huge issues within any relationship. Basically they want to be in control and have power. Being independent is not a “bad” thing but the problem that occurs within a relationship is this, for example.

    Woman – Sweety could you mow the lawn.
    Man – I will get around to it.
    Woman – The lawn really needs to get mowed because “whatever reason”
    Man – Ok thats fine I will get around to it
    At this point I find that “most” women …… in america anyhow would beat the issue into the ground until it is done or an argument. Or perhaps she would not liek the way he did it….. then complain or w/e.
    Ok with that being said….. this may be an issue with women in general or perhaps it varies from culture to culture…. And for me this is a personal thing that I just will not put up with. I “hope” this is less of an issue in Brazillian culture. Or am I deluding myself into thinking that the “majority” of women in brazil or more submissive and less dominating? And perhaps this is less of a culture issue and more of a gender issue.
    Now Indian culture …. has alot more submission but if the woman gets upset she will call everyone in the neighborhood due to the community based culture.
    Can anyone address the “generalities” that would occur in the context. For instance the issue of control “nagging” or tendencies within conflict resolution?

    [/QUOTE]
    Cobra, I also got a couple of Indian “notches” on the belt. It’s ALL the freaking same. Women are women no matter what. They MAY have a little bit of cultural influence but “organs” speak louder than words.
    Ok.. to be crude, <ladies, close this page right now!!> when I was young, I was intent on banging every ethnicity on the planet (real goal!!) The only one lacking was a pigmy tribe from Africa because I didn’t have time to go there. Every other.. been there done that!
    End conclusion:: It’s all the same. Organs speak louder than words! LOL

  • #202449

    pmcalif
    Member

    Some other reasons for popularity of Gringos with brasileiras.
    I hate to say it but most of the native brazilian men are gay or at least bi.
    And brasileiras do not like to share the ass of their boyfriend with another men

  • #202450

    pmcalif
    Member

    haircut:The average brasilian man has a haircut of Jean Valjean from Les Mis√©rables, a gringo who avoids this butcher’s hair shops and keeps it longer has a great advantage

  • #202452

    Gilmour
    Member

    Wenger, maybe this REALLY exists everywhere, but one night I saw a traveco prostitute standing next to a bakery where I live. I was shocked really. Where is the market for that? I’m not saying that the men are go or bi, but they do seem to have a fascination for “other holes”. What’s sad about that is that some get AIDS and take it home to their wives.

  • #202461

    Denise
    Participant

    [QUOTE=spongebob]Wenger, maybe this REALLY exists everywhere, but one night I saw a traveco prostitute standing next to a bakery where I live. I was shocked really. Where is the market for that? I’m not saying that the men are go or bi, but they do seem to have a fascination for “other holes”. What’s sad about that is that some get AIDS and take it home to their wives.

    [/QUOTE] If you have “ever” seen any Brazilian porn clips, they are all a**hole screwing. It is fun doggie style but to the right hole only. The guys like the tight hole as their d*cks are so small? All the TV crap (Faustao, Raul Gil, Melhor do Brasil etc) have travecos in themAngryNetflix rules even they are year behind the TV series in US. tamte2012-03-06 10:57:51

  • #202465

    pmcalif
    Member

    You should meet my colleagues, all have wives or girlfriends, but I bet they also like to take it up their assess

  • #202466

    RBtee
    Member

    If I lick a girls asshole I expect her to do the same, as a matter of principle.

  • #202468

    pmcalif
    Member

    [QUOTE=spongebob][QUOTE=cobrakhan5]

    Ofcourse alot of the thigns being said are generalizations and we can;t put everyone in the world in the same category. I can only speak of my experience of women in U.S. and women in India. U.S. women in my opinion have tendency that causes huge issues within any relationship. Basically they want to be in control and have power. Being independent is not a “bad” thing but the problem that occurs within a relationship is this, for example.

    Woman – Sweety could you mow the lawn.
    Man – I will get around to it.
    Woman – The lawn really needs to get mowed because “whatever reason”
    Man – Ok thats fine I will get around to it
    At this point I find that “most” women …… in america anyhow would beat the issue into the ground until it is done or an argument. Or perhaps she would not liek the way he did it….. then complain or w/e.
    Ok with that being said….. this may be an issue with women in general or perhaps it varies from culture to culture…. And for me this is a personal thing that I just will not put up with. I “hope” this is less of an issue in Brazillian culture. Or am I deluding myself into thinking that the “majority” of women in brazil or more submissive and less dominating? And perhaps this is less of a culture issue and more of a gender issue.
    Now Indian culture …. has alot more submission but if the woman gets upset she will call everyone in the neighborhood due to the community based culture.
    Can anyone address the “generalities” that would occur in the context. For instance the issue of control “nagging” or tendencies within conflict resolution?

    [/QUOTE]
    Cobra, I also got a couple of Indian “notches” on the belt. It’s ALL the freaking same. Women are women no matter what. They MAY have a little bit of cultural influence but “organs” speak louder than words.
    Ok.. to be crude, <ladies, close this page right now!!> when I was young, I was intent on banging every ethnicity on the planet (real goal!!) The only one lacking was a pigmy tribe from Africa because I didn’t have time to go there. Every other.. been there done that!
    End conclusion:: It’s all the same. Organs speak louder than words! LOL
    [/QUOTE]
    My story is supernatural. When I was young I had a dream, the dream was so real like a dream in the movie Inception. I could not tell the difference from the reality. In this dream I had sex with Naomi Campbell, when I woke up I said “WOW I have just banged Naomi Campbell”. It was a point of conversion, I have seen the light and felt the pleasure incomparable with the pleasure that could give me a sex with a caucasian girl.
    I confess for some years I have slipped from the right path and spend a some time with russian babes until I “met’ one athletic queenfrom Jamaica – 185 cm, six-pack bellly but bunda like a rainha de bateria, and my dream came back to my head, and I got back on the right path. If I die tomorrow I will have a smile on my face remembering these great moments of pure ecstasy and transcendental sex that I have with these incredible mulatinhas here in Brazil.
    GOD bless Brazil, and Lula and Dilma and all the escolas the Samba here in São Paulo

  • #202525

    evogel
    Member

    Ok i have only been in brazil for about a week and all I can say is ….. wow =)

  • #202528

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=WENGER]You should meet my colleagues, all have wives or girlfriends, but I bet they also like to take it up their assess [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FloripaRawb]If I lick a girls asshole I expect her to do the same, as a matter of principle. [/QUOTE] Romance?! Frankly, I cannot understand why the moderator allows these types of explicitly distasteful [pardon the pun] comments to remain on the forum; the product of immature and sex deprived individuals who, perhaps having only their right hand for a girlfriend, are voicing their fantasies and wishful thinking.Stern%20Smile

  • #202529

    pmcalif
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=WENGER]You should meet my colleagues, all have wives or girlfriends, but I bet they also like to take it up their assess [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=FloripaRawb]If I lick a girls asshole I expect her to do the same, as a matter of principle. [/QUOTE]
    Romance?! Frankly, I cannot understand why the moderator allows these types of explicitly distasteful [pardon the pun] comments to remain on the forum; the product of immature and sex deprived individuals who, perhaps having only their right hand for a girlfriend, are voicing their fantasies and wishful thinking.Stern%20Smile

    [/QUOTE]
    Esprit, frankly, this is how my colleagues imagine romance + do not judge the others according to your own right hand experiences in Brazil, in Brazil I have used right hand only touch the best curves born on this planet. Maybe, if you open your eyes and change your attitude you could also say good bye to your right hand, like the rest of the gringoes on this site

  • #202534

    trebroN
    Member

    I’m sure the forum readers (if there are any left) are really impressed with the level of studliness on this thread.
    Wait, maybe I’ve logged into gringos.com instead of gringoes.com?
    Steel Rat probably hasn’t intervened yet because he’s paralyzed by disbelief. How far can we make this forum sink, boys?
    Cool

  • #202645

    GringoBahia
    Member

    Funny. Not being at all “preconceituoso” but I do get the vibe that many Brazilian men are bi. There’s nothing wrong with that, just an interesting phenomenon.

  • #202647

    Mel_
    Member

    Totally agree.

  • #202707

    Anonymous

    Some of you guys are way to sensitive and should have your Internet cut or maybe you should install a parenting filter so you don’t have to see things that your overly sensitive minds cannot handle.
    I thought that the experiences you had in the closet with an elder at some private school had you prepared.
    There is a report button you wussies can hit.
    I find the ugly font Espirit uses more offensive than the posts.Twirly2012-03-09 08:46:36

  • #202718

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    Fluency with the complexities of sex in all of its guises is familiar territory for the mature and well-adjusted adult where they can find both passion and comedy in juxtaposition. In this context I find nothing wrong neither with the topic of this thread nor when the unqualified yet valid opinions based on personal experiences is expressed.

    However, I find it objectionable when speculative interpretations of cultural, ethnic and sexual preferences are reduced to explicit and sordid titillation that has the exclusive purpose of machismo self-aggrandisement that is normally associated with the young and immature together with the deviant adult seeking a form of dubious gratification that cannot otherwise be found in their bedrooms.

    I fully expect a response to this post assuring me of rampant heterosexual sticky-fingered activities with the coffee coloured indigenous including tit squeezing, asshole licking and screwing everything and anything that has an available orifice and prepared to open their legs in response to their gringo superlative intelligence, good looks and charm; their pathetic raison d’√™tre.

  • #202727

    Anonymous

    Do you feel superior to the “immature” ones when writing gibberish?

  • #202730

    RBtee
    Member

    I’m confused as to what these butt-hurt individuals thought they would find in a thread entitled ‘Why are foreign guys popular with the ladies here?’
    Sex is certainly implied in the title. Did you expect this to be a topic of Disney-esque, put the slipper on the girl, kiss the sleeping princess and fall in love, proportions?
    Also…I feel for your lady friends. The responses point out to the obvious prudes.
    I’m sure they never tire of the missionary position. heh.

  • #202732

    RBtee
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit] <P style=”MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt” =Msonormal><SPAN style=”LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: ‘Times New Roman’,’serif’; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ansi-: EN-GB”>Fluency with the complexities of sex in all of its guises is familiar territory for the mature and well-adjusted adult where they can find both passion and comedy in juxtaposition. In this context I find nothing wrong neither with the topic of this thread nor when the unqualified yet valid opinions based on personal experiences is expressed. <?:namespace prefix = o ns = “urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office” /><o:p></o:p></SPAN>
    <P style=”MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt” =Msonormal><SPAN style=”LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: ‘Times New Roman’,’serif’; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ansi-: EN-GB”>However, I find it objectionable when speculative interpretations of cultural, ethnic and sexual preferences are reduced to explicit and sordid titillation that has the exclusive purpose of machismo self-aggrandisement that is normally associated with the young and immature together with the deviant adult seeking a form of dubious gratification that cannot otherwise be found in their bedrooms.<o:p></o:p></SPAN>
    <P style=”MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt” =Msonormal><SPAN style=”LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: ‘Times New Roman’,’serif’; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ansi-: EN-GB”>I fully expect a response to this post assuring me of rampant heterosexual sticky-fingered activities with the coffee coloured indigenous including tit squeezing, asshole licking and screwing everything and anything that has an available orifice and prepared to open their legs in response to their gringo superlative intelligence, good looks and charm; </SPAN><SPAN =st><SPAN style=”LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: ‘Times New Roman’,’serif’; FONT-SIZE: 12pt” lang=EN-US><SPAN style=”mso-spacerun: yes”>¬†</SPAN>their pathetic raison d’√™tre.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style=”LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: ‘Times New Roman’,’serif’; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-ansi-: EN-GB”><o:p></o:p></SPAN>[/QUOTE]

    See more on Know Your Meme

  • #202735

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=FloripaRawb]I’m confused as to what these butt-hurt individuals thought they would find in a thread entitled ‘Why are foreign guys popular with the ladies here?’

    Sex is certainly implied in the title. Did you expect this to be a topic of Disney-esque, put the slipper on the girl, kiss the sleeping princess and fall in love, proportions?

    Also…I feel for your lady friends. The responses point out to the obvious prudes.

    I’m sure they never tire of the missionary position. heh. [/QUOTE]

    If it is imagined, as is implied by your closing line, that the gringo is better able to satisfy the Brazilian ladies between the sheets and offer this by way of an explanation why foreigners are popular, I would suggest that you suffer from the Walter Mitty syndrome.

    Of course there are always the exceptions; you, for instance, may well be a Brad Pitt lookalike, rich as Croesus and hung like a donkey possessing all of the sensitivity and selflessness so desired by women. I hasten to add that this is most unlikely given the content of your posts; crass vulgarity that impresses only those of your ilk.

  • #202736

    Gianni
    Member

    It’s the same way we see the brazilian ladies as being attractive, partial to our worldly good looks and some of the exotic fruit textures we have to offer!

  • #202737

    RBtee
    Member

    Does Esprit always type so…pretentious?

  • #202740

    Anonymous

    ^^Like his ego.

  • #202754

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Gringodude]It’s the same way we see the brazilian ladies as being attractive, partial to our worldly good looks and some of the exotic fruit textures we have to offer!

    [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=FloripaRawb]Does Esprit always type so…pretentious? [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=Twirly]^^Like his ego.[/QUOTE]

    So now we have on the table, ‘exotic fruit textures’ whatever euphemism that is meant to conjure, along with pretentiousness and ego.

    I take it that the exotic fruit reference is a synonym for preference or fetish, or what the French may say, vive la différence; there being no necessity to delve the differences between the ‘mysterious’ dark-skinned Brazilian female and the erstwhile taboo restricted gringo male from his place of origin. This new-found liberation from prejudices, in a land free of sexual suppression together with the all-important stereotypical misconceptions, allows the gringo advantages hitherto unavailable to him in his home country where he may otherwise be considered an average Joe having little or no access to what he may consider to be a beautiful woman; that beauty being, of course, in the eye of the beholder.

    There are many examples of successful and long-lasting relationships between Brazilians and gringos founded on love and mutual respect, relationships that must not be confused with the vulgar conversations emanating from the posts written by the kiss & tell brigade; gringo bums that are predisposed, like sex tourists, to anus licking and other fanciful whimsies which, thinking they are unique, they are desperately wanting to share with everybody. These are pretentious and otherwise hollow persons lacking ego but desperately seeking approval from the chauvinist gallery. Save it for the drunks in bars or the schoolyard, fellas.

  • #202756

    Gianni
    Member

    Wow…… (This guy definitely plays world of warcraft)

  • #202760

    RBtee
    Member

    Lol. I think I like Esprit.
    At first I was shaking my head, wondering who on Earth could really think that a string of cliches + cynicism = eloquence….
    But then I realized he’s just trolling. Haha. Ya got me. Good one.

  • #202762

    Anonymous

    Meh, he is just another troll.
    Ohh, btw, tl,dr.

  • #202763

    Gianni
    Member

    you troll to dip-s-h-i-t

  • #202936

    evogel
    Member

    agreed trolled lol for american men it is gods gift

  • #202938

    evogel
    Member

    let me add to that … as long as you are not a donkey

  • #202976

    pmcalif
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit]

    [QUOTE=Gringodude]It’s the same way we see the brazilian ladies as being attractive, partial to our worldly good looks and some of the exotic fruit textures we have to offer!
    [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=FloripaRawb]Does Esprit always type so…pretentious? [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=Twirly]^^Like his ego.[/QUOTE]

    So now we have on the table, ‘exotic fruit textures’ whatever euphemism that is meant to conjure, along with pretentiousness and ego.

    I take it that the exotic fruit reference is a synonym for preference or fetish, or what the French may say, vive la différence; there being no necessity to delve the differences between the ‘mysterious’ dark-skinned Brazilian female and the erstwhile taboo restricted gringo male from his place of origin. This new-found liberation from prejudices, in a land free of sexual suppression together with the all-important stereotypical misconceptions, allows the gringo advantages hitherto unavailable to him in his home country where he may otherwise be considered an average Joe having little or no access to what he may consider to be a beautiful woman; that beauty being, of course, in the eye of the beholder.

    There are many examples of successful and long-lasting relationships between Brazilians and gringos founded on love and mutual respect,relationships that must not be confused with the vulgar conversations emanating from the posts written by the kiss & tell brigade; gringo bums that are predisposed, like sex tourists, to anus licking and other fanciful whimsies which, thinking they are unique, they are desperately wanting to share with everybody. These are pretentious and otherwise hollow persons lacking ego but desperately seeking approval from the chauvinist gallery. Save it for the drunks in bars or the schoolyard, fellas.

    [/QUOTE]
    You are absolutely right, it is called amor de pico, it means that girls like even a poor gringo if he is G&G (Grosso and Grande) my brasilian spouse explained it to me

  • #202992

    Hakson
    Member

    [/QUOTE]

    You are absolutely right, it is called amor de pico, it means that girls like even a poor gringo if he is G&G (Grosso and Grande) my brasilian spouse explained it to me
    [/QUOTE] It’ s called “amor de PICA”. But there is another expression: Paixão de buceta. LOLbraza10002012-03-12 13:40:11

  • #202994

    RBtee
    Member

    rsrsrsrsrs. I’m going to use these next time I go out.

  • #203070

    evogel
    Member

    O que e PICA? Geek

  • #203582

    chrish
    Member

    Brazil it’s not unlike anywhere else. If you’re good looking, being a foreigner will add to your stock, give you a bit of a mysterious aura, etc. If you’re ugly, being a foreigner will work against you.

  • #203583

    chrish
    Member

    I remember back when I lived in Floripa my hot Yoga instructor was convincing two other smoking hot students to go on a date with some Australian dudes she met, she kept saying “come on their from AUS, the mecca of Surf!”
    So if you’re a foreign white guy in Floripa, at least pretend you surf and that you are from Florida, Hawaii, California, or some beach town in Australia.marcobjj2012-03-17 17:44:58

  • #203994

    this happens all over the world…

    in the UK an average looking Brazilian girl would get more than her normal rate of attention…
    my English mate was getting laid right left and centre in the US…
    try going to Japan.. the young girls are so crazy for a US, European or English guy that they could get done for sexual haresment!
  • #204710

    Anonymous

    the secret is one

    the population rate men/women in brazil
    3:10
    there are not many man for cover all women in brazil

    Spiros de Greci2012-04-01 10:30:37

  • #204784

    [QUOTE=Spiros de Greci]
    the secret is one

    the population rate men/women in brazil
    3:10
    there are not many man for cover all women in brazil

    [/QUOTE]
    What you and Scoth said is true. It’s a mix between men / women ratio (in some places this gap is bigger than others ‚Äì as big as 4 women to 1 man), and the curiousity and the “mystery” aura a foreigner brings with him/her. But as Scottyh said, this happens the way around, too: I used to have a friend that was Brazilian, and moved to Portugal, and then Bulgaria. Since most people there have pale skin and light, straight hair, his curly hair didn’t go unnoticed, and he married a beautiful woman. By our standards, he’s pretty much an average guy with a nice conversation.Megabyte2012-04-02 10:48:15

  • #204789

    Gilmour
    Member

    Based on the last population numbers I saw, the numbers of women were only slightly higher than those of men.
    I think the best examples are to be found in the smallERcities. Like a Brazilian told me, and I have to agree with him, women want comfort. There are usually a limited number of guys that can provide this comfort. Hence the reason why you have many women competing for a small number of men.
    In a small city close to here, I saw a handful of productive, single men, and about 4x that of women who would like to get married. It wasn’t that the number of women was higher, just that the women weren’t including the single, lazy, jobless, no career guys in their search.

  • #204795

    beccaseal
    Member

    great info bob, is that are near your city of natal ?

  • #204798

    Anonymous

    sopongebob

    inform us about the city to go there for a while….
  • #204801

    [QUOTE=spongebob] Based on the last population numbers I saw, the numbers of women were only slightly higher than those of men.I think the best examples are to be found in the smallERcities. Like a Brazilian told me, and I have to agree with him, women want comfort. There are usually a limited number of guys that can provide this comfort. Hence the reason why you have many women competing for a small number of men.In a small city close to here, I saw a handful of productive, single men, and about 4x that of women who would like to get married. It wasn’t that the number of women was higher, just that the women weren’t including the single, lazy, jobless, no career guys in their search.
    [/QUOTE]
    It really depends on the state. In Espírito Santo, the rate is 4 women per 1 man and I based myself on that, so that might be my mistake.
    About comfort, this is more likely to be true on poorer cities than richer ones. The north of Brazil is a lot poorer than the south (in general,) so they are indeed more likely to seek richer guys (or at least that seem richer) instead of the ones close to their social status. Also, in the north, women tend to be more submissive and conservative than they are in the south, hence “comfort.”
    About the jobless guys: well, in the US you can get a low-status job that would give you at least a reasonable life (e.g: truck driver.) In Brazil, finding a job overall is much harder: even low-status jobs usually require a lot of needless specialization, and high-status jobs can pay very little. Your average doctor in Brazil can earn as little as $1000,00 per month, specially if he’s actuallya good doctor (the bad ones will try to check their patients as fast as possible so they can earn more money, for instance.)
    Also, even foreigners that studied in good schools are having a hard time: just see for yourself the forums here about Americans trying to get a job. So, it’s not just a matter of “laziness.”Megabyte2012-04-02 13:40:50

  • #204804

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=spongebob] Based on the last population numbers I saw, the numbers of women were only slightly higher than those of men.I think the best examples are to be found in the smallERcities. Like a Brazilian told me, and I have to agree with him, women want comfort. There are usually a limited number of guys that can provide this comfort. Hence the reason why you have many women competing for a small number of men.In a small city close to here, I saw a handful of productive, single men, and about 4x that of women who would like to get married. It wasn’t that the number of women was higher, just that the women weren’t including the single, lazy, jobless, no career guys in their search.
    [/QUOTE]
    It really depends on the state. In Espírito Santo, the rate is 4 women per 1 man and I based myself on that, so that might be my mistake.
    About comfort, this is more likely to be true on poorer cities than richer ones. The north of Brazil is a lot poorer than the south (in general,) so they are indeed more likely to seek richer guys (or at least that seem richer) instead of the ones close to their social status. Also, in the north, women tend to be more submissive and conservative than they are in the south, hence “comfort.”
    About the jobless guys: well, in the US you can get a low-status job that would give you at least a reasonable life (e.g: truck driver.) In Brazil, finding a job overall is much harder: even low-status jobs usually require a lot of needless specialization, and high-status jobs can pay very little. Your average doctor in Brazil can earn as little as $1000,00 per month, specially if he’s actuallya good doctor (the bad ones will try to check their patients as fast as possible so they can earn more money, for instance.)
    Also, even foreigners that studied in good schools are having a hard time: just see for yourself the forums here about Americans trying to get a job. So, it’s not just a matter of “laziness.”[/QUOTE]
    Megabyte – 1.000/month. That’s a new one for me. At least all of the doctors I know make heaps of money. Private medical schools here are R$ 3+/month, so usually families are looking for a potential return on investment before putting their kids in [private] medical schools.
    I live in Minas, so it’s not soo poor here. This “test pool” I was talking about was a town based on 1 industry only. The top guys that all of the women wanted were making R$ 6.000+/month. Some were probably making R$ 20+/month.
    I’ll bet it’s the same as ES. If you find the most “eligible” guys, there’re probably more than a few women trying to get their attention. This is probably universal…
    I don’t doubt that it is hard to make money in Brazil. In my first few years here, I frankly didn’t know how anyone could survive here. Now I know it can be done, and I know a lot of people who make a lot of $$$ every month.

  • #204819

    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    Megabyte – 1.000/month. That’s a new one for me. At least all of the doctors I know make heaps of money. Private medical schools here are R$ 3+/month, so usually families are looking for a potential return on investment before putting their kids in [private] medical schools.
    I live in Minas, so it’s not soo poor here. This “test pool” I was talking about was a town based on 1 industry only. The top guys that all of the women wanted were making R$ 6.000+/month. Some were probably making R$ 20+/month.
    I’ll bet it’s the same as ES. If you find the most “eligible” guys, there’re probably more than a few women trying to get their attention. This is probably universal…
    I don’t doubt that it is hard to make money in Brazil. In my first few years here, I frankly didn’t know how anyone could survive here. Now I know it can be done, and I know a lot of people who make a lot of $$$ every month.
    [/QUOTE]
    You probably live in a richer neighborhood. If you earn so well, your wife would know better to tell you not to live in a dangerous place. I might also add that overall, our income distribution is very uneven – 1% of the richest people earn the equivalent of 50% of what the poorest class earns, and that 30 people earn 6% of our gross national product? This means they literally own6% of the whole country!
    * Here’s an article about social inequality in Brazil (in Portuguese):
    http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/brasil/ult96u69318.shtml
    * Here’s the article about the richest people in Brazil (also in Portuguese):
    http://www.istoe.com.br/reportagens/128131_OS+NOVOS+RICOS
    About doctors earning $1000,these are general practioner doctors – the ones without any kind of specialization – that work in poorer cities and in the health public system. Of course doctors from the private health system earn only so much more. And yes, medical school is expensive, but a few poor guys might manage to get there either by a huge government discount (the Prouni program), or by studying very hard and taking the test to enter a public university.
    But I don’t need to talk about this myself. If your Portuguese is good, you can read about what a doctor himself has to say. His site is http://www.meusnervos.com.br . He’s a doctor and an artist ‚Äì quite rare, isn’t it ‚Äì and he tells of his own problems in comic strips.Megabyte2012-04-02 17:25:27

  • #204847

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=spongebob]
    Megabyte – 1.000/month. That’s a new one for me. At least all of the doctors I know make heaps of money. Private medical schools here are R$ 3+/month, so usually families are looking for a potential return on investment before putting their kids in [private] medical schools.
    I live in Minas, so it’s not soo poor here. This “test pool” I was talking about was a town based on 1 industry only. The top guys that all of the women wanted were making R$ 6.000+/month. Some were probably making R$ 20+/month.
    I’ll bet it’s the same as ES. If you find the most “eligible” guys, there’re probably more than a few women trying to get their attention. This is probably universal…
    I don’t doubt that it is hard to make money in Brazil. In my first few years here, I frankly didn’t know how anyone could survive here. Now I know it can be done, and I know a lot of people who make a lot of $$$ every month.
    [/QUOTE]
    You probably live in a richer neighborhood. If you earn so well, your wife would know better to tell you not to live in a dangerous place. I might also add that overall, our income distribution is very uneven – 1% of the richest people earn the equivalent of 50% of what the poorest class earns, and that 30 people earn 6% of our gross national product? This means they literally own6% of the whole country!
    * Here’s an article about social inequality in Brazil (in Portuguese):
    http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/brasil/ult96u69318.shtml
    * Here’s the article about the richest people in Brazil (also in Portuguese):
    http://www.istoe.com.br/reportagens/128131_OS+NOVOS+RICOS
    About doctors earning $1000,these are general practioner doctors – the ones without any kind of specialization – that work in poorer cities and in the health public system. Of course doctors from the private health system earn only so much more. And yes, medical school is expensive, but a few poor guys might manage to get there either by a huge government discount (the Prouni program), or by studying very hard and taking the test to enter a public university.
    But I don’t need to talk about this myself. If your Portuguese is good, you can read about what a doctor himself has to say. His site is http://www.meusnervos.com.br . He’s a doctor and an artist ‚Äì quite rare, isn’t it ‚Äì and he tells of his own problems in comic strips.[/QUOTE]
    Mega, I live in a downtown area of a small’ish city in Minas (150k habitantes).
    There are inequalities, sure. My goal, at least, is to be on the side of the HAVES instead of the HAVE NOTS.

  • #204852

    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    Mega, I live in a downtown area of a small’ish city in Minas (150k habitantes).
    There are inequalities, sure. My goal, at least, is to be on the side of the HAVES instead of the HAVE NOTS.
    [/QUOTE]
    150k inhabitants? Not that small. But anyway, that’s almost everyone’s goal, of course. The problem is that the opportunities are much more uneven in Brazil than they are in the US ‚Äì and given the current complaints US people today about growing social inequality, that’s saying something.
    Also, even though people treat you much better when you are in the side of the “haves” (as you put it,) you’re pretty much disqualifying the people that have important social functions and don’t “have” as much money as you do. What would be of us if there were no garbage collectors? Or truck drivers? The life of a garbage collector is pretty tough: they have to stay all day in the sun collecting the garbage you produce. Are they lazy? On the other hand, many politicians in Brazil earn an obscene ammount of money that not even youwill be able to earn in your entire life. Does that mean they work hard?
    Besides, what will happen to your “friends” when if you get ill, for instance, and you lose all your money to pay for your health bills? What if you suffer an accident and can’t work anymore in your current function, needing to move to a low-paying job? I’d rather be alone than to have those people as “friends.” Thanks but no thanks.Megabyte2012-04-02 22:03:17

  • #205608

    Gilmour
    Member

    Mega, you definitely need to move to a country like Sweden or Germany where there seems to be much more of an equal system of distribution. Because we all know, in the US and Brazil, it is not very equal.
    I’m not arguing that trash collectors work hard. But listen to your logic: ask anyone if a doctor should make as much as a trash collector!
    “YOU”? – wow.. you know everything that I do, and how much money I can make in my lifetime, huh? Just because I come to this site doesn’t mean that we are birds of a feather.
    Friends? I don’t have any friends. I only know a lot of people. I don’t depend on anyone, nor ask for favours. If I were involved in an accident <knock on wood>, my relationship with these people would be no different. I don’t know where your logic is with this argument, either…
    By the way, I have NO health insurance – nada. I prefer to leave that in the hands of the gods. If there is something critical, I will go to the public hospital. I may get Unimed one of these days because it’s not THAT expensive for me. But at least for now, I’m not seeing any HUGE benefits in my area for people with Unimed or someone just paying with cash, or even going to asSUSto.

  • #205628

    [QUOTE=spongebob] Mega, you definitely need to move to a country like Sweden or Germany where there seems to be much more of an equal system of distribution. Because we all know, in the US and Brazil, it is not very equal. I’m not arguing that trash collectors work hard. But listen to your logic: ask anyone if a doctor should make as much as a trash collector!”YOU”? – wow.. you know everything that I do, and how much money I can make in my lifetime, huh?
    [/quote]
    Should a soccer player make moremoney than a doctor, or a bad actor with good looks earn morethan a teacher? By the same logic, is it fair that they earn more just because people love them? An American basketball player doesn’t know as nearly as much as your average American physician ‚Äì I’m sure of it.
    Notice this isn’t a Brazilian thing only; don’t most American basketball players earn more than most American physicians would make on their lifetime (unless they are, say, Dr. Ray?)
    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    Just because I come to this site doesn’t mean that we are birds of a feather. Friends? I don’t have any friends. I only know a lot of people. I don’t depend on anyone, nor ask for favours.
    [/quote]
    A fatalmistake in Brazil. Even I, who act in a similar way (minus “knowing a lot of people”) do that having at least a few (true) friends will sometimes get you out of terrible trouble.
    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    If I were involved in an accident <knock on wood>, my relationship with these people would be no different. […] By the way, I have NO health insurance – nada. I prefer to leave that in the hands of the gods.
    [/quote]
    Considering you have no health insurance, it would be verydifferent. Trust me.
    [quote=”spongebob”]
    If there is something critical, I will go to the public hospital. I may get Unimed one of these days because it’s not THAT expensive for me.
    [/quote]
    Do get yourselfa healthcare plan. An exam to see if you have a kidney problem costs more than $1000 alone.
    [quote=”spongebob”]
    I don’t know where your logic is with this argument, either… But at least for now, I’m not seeing any HUGE benefits in my area for people with Unimed or someone just paying with cash, or even going to asSUSto.
    [/QUOTE]
    Then you must be blind or not care very much about your own health and your family’s, because routine exams are quite expensive (try going to a cardiologist and paying for all the exams he will ‚Äì rightfully ‚Äì ask for you to do, for instance).
    Also, “SUSTO” doesn’t do justice to SUS‘s bad reputation when you are between life and death. Our own public healthcare system is great if you need $1,500 pills ‚Äì but it sucks on emergences, and I think you and me both know it better.Megabyte2012-04-07 11:09:46

  • #205636

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=Megabyte]
    Should a soccer player make moremoney than a doctor, or a bad actor with good looks earn morethan a teacher? By the same logic, is it fair that they earn more just because people love them? An American basketball player doesn’t know as nearly as much as your average American physician ‚Äì I’m sure of it.
    [/quote]
    Unfortunately, that’s just life. It’s not fair.
    [quote]
    A fatalmistake in Brazil. Even I, who act in a similar way (minus “knowing a lot of people”) do that having at least a few (true) friends will sometimes get you out of terrible trouble.
    [/quote]
    The key is to stay out of trouble in the first place. Many of the old jeitinhos like obtaining a REAL drivers license for R$ 600 are basically gone. My preferred method is: LET EVERYONE OWE ME something. Then I will call the favour later. Nobody has to be my friend to owe me though.
    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    Do get yourselfa healthcare plan. An exam to see if you have a kidney problem costs more than $1000 alone.
    [/quote]
    Interesting, since I know the #1 doctor in my area that treats kidney problems, and according to him, SUS pays for all exams and dialysis treatment.

  • #205644

    Anonymous

    SUS can be great depending on the region you live in.

  • #205650

    [QUOTE=Twirly] SUS can be great depending on the region you live in.
    [/QUOTE]
    It is, but just not if you just you had a car crash and are between life and death. You’ll end up waiting too long waiting for your turn, and every second is precious when you’re saving lives.

  • #205667

    Gilmour
    Member

    Mega, seriously, it depends on where you live. If you live in a large city, then the wait times may be longer. But where I live, gunshot victims, or crash victims are not an everyday occurrence. Thank goodness!! So these people get attention pretty quickly. Bigger cities can have longer wait times.
    Still, the CRAZIEST thing I have ever heard of is that here they don’t carry paddles in an ambulances here in this area. So even with health insurance, you will still [likely] die in this situation (heart attack and ambulance is coming to pick you up). The only people I know who survived heart attacks here were when family members got in the car and hauled a$$ to the closest hospital.

  • #205668

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=spongebob] Mega, seriously, it depends on where you live. If you live in a large city, then the wait times may be longer. But where I live, gunshot victims, or crash victims are not an everyday occurrence. Thank goodness!! So these people get attention pretty quickly. Bigger cities can have longer wait times.Still, the CRAZIEST thing I have ever heard of is that here they don’t carry paddles in an ambulances here in this area. So even with health insurance, you will still [likely] die in this situation (heart attack and ambulance is coming to pick you up). The only people I know who survived heart attacks here were when family members got in the car and hauled a$$ to the closest hospital.
    [/QUOTE]
    I’m so tired of expats pointing out everything that’s wrong with Brazil.
    This isn’t the US. Take off your gringo goggles. Go live somewhere else if you want paddles in rescue vehicles.cara09102012-04-07 19:00:56

  • #205675

    [QUOTE=cara0910] [QUOTE=spongebob] Mega, seriously, it depends on where you live. If you live in a large city, then the wait times may be longer. But where I live, gunshot victims, or crash victims are not an everyday occurrence. Thank goodness!! So these people get attention pretty quickly. Bigger cities can have longer wait times.Still, the CRAZIEST thing I have ever heard of is that here they don’t carry paddles in an ambulances here in this area. So even with health insurance, you will still [likely] die in this situation (heart attack and ambulance is coming to pick you up). The only people I know who survived heart attacks here were when family members got in the car and hauled a$$ to the closest hospital.
    [/QUOTE]
    I’m so tired of expats pointing out everything that’s wrong with Brazil.
    This isn’t the US. Take off your gringo goggles. Go live somewhere else if you want paddles in rescue vehicles.[/QUOTE]
    Well, what can I say here? First, you’re right when you say this isn’t the US, so he can’t expect the health system to behave the same. That can prove to be fatal.That’s what I’m telling him. Some days, the public hospital you will be heading to will be empty. If that’s the case, lucky you (or your friends / family.) But if it’s not, then you or your loved ones will probably agonize for two or three days waiting for help, and you won’t be able to do anything except to wait (or to die.)
    Here’s a news report about babies dying in Pará because of the bad conditions of their hospitals:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPd1yEBtPLw
    About the paddles, yes, they should be there in the ambulance and many other public and private places; they can save many lives that would be lost. Unfortunately, our population doesn’t know how to fight for their rights. You seem rightfully concerned, so by all means do file a complaint to your local government about that and encourage people to do the same ‚Äì while most people won’t listen to you, let’s hope some will.
    In any case, do buy your own paddles if you have a heart problem, just in case.Megabyte2012-04-07 21:53:36

  • #205680

    GringoBahia
    Member

    Last time I checked the title of this thread it was about Foreign Guys gettin the gurls, not inequality.

  • #205683

    barcobird
    Member

    My experience was/is that Brazilian girls go for Brazilian guys (long term). All the Brazilian girls, I was informed, in London or Paris for example, wouldn’t go near a gringo at all. I was just using my scorching hot chat-up lines to make it happen with the wild Brazilian love machine for me…and boy, did it cost a lot of money!!!

  • #205684

    barcobird
    Member

    [QUOTE=buziosrj] well because we are better in bed then the brasilien guys;; my women tell me that all the time;;;; now expecting twins;;; what can i say;;; pkClap[/QUOTE] Seriously, that is the FIRST time I ever heard a gringo lay claim to fame on that note. For example, all Eastern European women in London go to the Brazilian pick-up joints because they want to be pounded by Latin poles all night. And I don’t recall hearing too many complaints about the performances!

  • #205688

    Paulo
    Participant

    [QUOTE=krevfeim]

    Seriously, that is the FIRST time I ever heard a gringo lay claim to fame on that note.¬† For example, all Eastern European women in London go to the Brazilian pick-up joints because they want to be pounded by Latin poles all night.¬† And I don’t recall hearing too many complaints about the performances![/QUOTE]
    The complaints are mainly about their reluctance to pay the going rate, so I hear.

  • #205700

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=cara0910] [QUOTE=spongebob] Mega, seriously, it depends on where you live. If you live in a large city, then the wait times may be longer. But where I live, gunshot victims, or crash victims are not an everyday occurrence. Thank goodness!! So these people get attention pretty quickly. Bigger cities can have longer wait times.Still, the CRAZIEST thing I have ever heard of is that here they don’t carry paddles in an ambulances here in this area. So even with health insurance, you will still [likely] die in this situation (heart attack and ambulance is coming to pick you up). The only people I know who survived heart attacks here were when family members got in the car and hauled a$$ to the closest hospital.
    [/QUOTE]
    I’m so tired of expats pointing out everything that’s wrong with Brazil.
    This isn’t the US. Take off your gringo goggles. Go live somewhere else if you want paddles in rescue vehicles.[/QUOTE]
    Well, what can I say here? First, you’re right when you say this isn’t the US, so he can’t expect the health system to behave the same. That can prove to be fatal.That’s what I’m telling him. Some days, the public hospital you will be heading to will be empty. If that’s the case, lucky you (or your friends / family.) But if it’s not, then you or your loved ones will probably agonize for two or three days waiting for help, and you won’t be able to do anything except to wait (or to die.)
    Here’s a news report about babies dying in Pará because of the bad conditions of their hospitals:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPd1yEBtPLw
    About the paddles, yes, they should be there in the ambulance and many other public and private places; they can save many lives that would be lost. Unfortunately, our population doesn’t know how to fight for their rights. You seem rightfully concerned, so by all means do file a complaint to your local government about that and encourage people to do the same ‚Äì while most people won’t listen to you, let’s hope some will.
    In any case, do buy your own paddles if you have a heart problem, just in case.[/QUOTE]
    I was being sarcastic b/c bobby repeats that to anyone who has any sort of criticism of Brazil in tens of other forum threads.
    Similarly, according to Bob, you are now allowed to have your opinion on paddles because this is Brazil, and all Brazilians have one opinion. Stop catering to foreign influence!

  • #205701

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=cardi] [QUOTE=krevfeim]

    Seriously, that is the FIRST time I ever heard a gringo lay claim to fame on that note.¬† For example, all Eastern European women in London go to the Brazilian pick-up joints because they want to be pounded by Latin poles all night.¬† And I don’t recall hearing too many complaints about the performances![/QUOTE]
    The complaints are mainly about their reluctance to pay the going rate, so I hear.
    [/QUOTE]
    I have heard from several young women that nationality is not a good predictor of performance in bed…

  • #205716

    Well, I guess it all depends. Japanese people have far more problems than we do expressing their feelings, for instance, and their reasoning is alien to me: while they have little no to no taboos when having sex, most of them have lots of problems when it comes to actually getlaid. Most Japanese couples have sex only once a month, and public kissing might still make some people frown ‚Äì it doesn’t matter if you’re a straight or gay couple.

  • #205728

    graham
    Participant

    @ megabyte: What makes you such an authority…
    …on Japanese sexual habits?

  • #205730

    [QUOTE=Grads] @ megabyte: What makes you such an authority…
    …on Japanese sexual habits? [/QUOTE]
    Oh, I can’t claim any authority here; I just happen to watch anime and read manga (japanese animation and comic books), and I researched a little about their culture.

  • #205734

    graham
    Participant

    amazing you have the time, but at least fantasy pursuits do provide entertainment.

  • #205832

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=cara0910]
    Similarly, according to Bob, you are now allowed to have your opinion on paddles because this is Brazil, and all Brazilians have one opinion. Stop catering to foreign influence![/QUOTE]
    Cara, I never said you can’t voice your opinion. Don’t get mad at me because I say things that go against your opinion and core beliefs. THERE IS a difference between people like you, and people that have been in Brazil for long-while.
    You are in the USofA now. Be happy. You are American so you have a priviledged life. You are freeER than any other people on earth. As Mitt Romney said, you are special and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Wink

  • #205855

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=Grads] @ megabyte: What makes you such an authority…
    …on Japanese sexual habits? [/QUOTE]
    Oh, I can’t claim any authority here; I just happen to watch anime and read manga (japanese animation and comic books), and I researched a little about their culture. [/QUOTE]
    Your opinion of Japan is based on its popular media. Imagine if people judged your culture similarly. Get your head out of the comic shop, otaku, you might learn something.

  • #206688

    jessie
    Member

    i have been here since Oct. and have found it very easy but I havent used it to my advantage. I find it strange just hooking up. Though I understand I should get some and move on I find it strange not being exclusive. I guess I noticed they get very attached. Like marriage is asked after first date. I’m just more private and who knows I might just find one and not need a whole bunch. But yep english is a panty dropper and when they see the passport its over.. lol.. I’m in Curitiba and would like to make new friends. eumando78@hotmail.com

  • #206691

    [QUOTE=JonSanti78] i have been here since Oct. and have found it very easy but I havent used it to my advantage. I find it strange just hooking up. Though I understand I should get some and move on I find it strange not being exclusive. I guess I noticed they get very attached. Like marriage is asked after first date.I’m just more private and who knows I might just find one and not need a whole bunch. But yep english is a panty dropper and when they see the passport its over.. lol.. I’m in Curitiba and would like to make new friends. eumando78@hotmail.com[/QUOTE]
    This is a sign someone is interested on your money, not you.

  • #206698

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=spongebob]
    [QUOTE=cara0910] Similarly, according to Bob, you are now allowed to have your opinion on paddles because this is Brazil, and all Brazilians have one opinion. Stop catering to foreign influence![/QUOTE]Cara, I never said you can’t voice your opinion. Don’t get mad at me because I say things that go against your opinion and core beliefs. THERE IS a difference between people like you, and people that have been in Brazil for long-while. You are in the USofA now. Be happy. You are American so you have a priviledged life. You are freeER than any other people on earth. As Mitt Romney said, you are special and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Wink[/QUOTE]
    See, why would you quote Mitt Romney in a sentence where you mention my name?
    Bob, we have different opinions, that’s fine. But, you should try sticking to yours.
    Brazil: take it or leave it. If I see you complain about Brazil, like how they don’t have paddles in the ambulances, I am going to call you out.
    It’s what you do to others on the forum while claiming you are somehow more serene or enlightened or experienced than they are.
    BTW, I am a Brazilian perm. resident and I will return to Brazil. Hopefully after some of the kinks are worked out!

  • #206700

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=JonSanti78] i have been here since Oct. and have found it very easy but I havent used it to my advantage. I find it strange just hooking up. Though I understand I should get some and move on I find it strange not being exclusive. I guess I noticed they get very attached. Like marriage is asked after first date.I’m just more private and who knows I might just find one and not need a whole bunch. But yep english is a panty dropper and when they see the passport its over.. lol.. I’m in Curitiba and would like to make new friends. eumando78@hotmail.com[/QUOTE]
    This is a sign someone is interested on your money, not you.[/QUOTE]
    Anyone who uses the phrase ‘panty dropper’ is interested in just that.
    Welcome to Brazil. It’s mostly sex tourists and other nasty things.

  • #206719

    jessie
    Member

    so anyone in curitiba

  • #206736

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=cara0910] [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=JonSanti78] i have been here since Oct. and have found it very easy but I havent used it to my advantage. I find it strange just hooking up. Though I understand I should get some and move on I find it strange not being exclusive. I guess I noticed they get very attached. Like marriage is asked after first date.I’m just more private and who knows I might just find one and not need a whole bunch. But yep english is a panty dropper and when they see the passport its over.. lol.. I’m in Curitiba and would like to make new friends. eumando78@hotmail.com[/QUOTE]
    [quote]This is a sign someone is interested on your money, not you.
    Anyone who uses the phrase ‘panty dropper’ is interested in just that.
    Welcome to Brazil. It’s mostly sex tourists and other nasty things.[/QUOTE]
    Cara – so where do you get that idea, considering where I live, you would have to drive 1,5 hours to go to strip club? I’ve heard the story about the American “fishing trips” in the Amazon, but I think places like Thailand are much more of sex tourist locations than Brazil.
    “panty dropper” – ahh… that’s a funny one. Sometimes I can’t see what Brazilian women see in Gringos.

  • #206747

    jessie
    Member

    I love it here but i just cant used to feeling like i’m being stared at all the time.. she might be into you but she might be looking for sommething to steal.. I never had that feeling before. It sure makes it interesting. I always like those undercover thief girlfriend movies. Though it hasnt happened it sure makes it fun to think that I could be in a trunk asking for someone to wire money. Nao tenho money. American express e cartao para telefone. I thought you were apaixaonada. lol

  • #206749

    [QUOTE=JonSanti78] I love it here but i just cant used to feeling like i’m being stared at all the time.. she might be into you but she might be looking for sommething to steal.. I never had that feeling before. It sure makes it interesting. I always like those undercover thief girlfriend movies. Though it hasnt happened it sure makes it fun to think that I could be in a trunk asking for someone to wire money. Nao tenho money. American express e cartao para telefone. I thought you were apaixaonada. lol [/QUOTE]
    Oh, god. A guy with a fettish, wishing for a thief girlfriend?
    That’s new.

  • #206751

    jessie
    Member

    yeah it happens
    why do u have room in your trunk? lol

  • #208467

    jheathco
    Member

    I would love to think that I have a chance for romance with a younger Brazilian woman, but having turned 50, I doubt that is very likely. Oh well, there’s always surfing, snorkeling, fishing, and going for barefoot runs on the beach! Looking forward to July.

  • #208475

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=KellyGuy] I would love to think that I have a chance for romance with a younger Brazilian woman, but having turned 50, I doubt that is very likely. Oh well, there’s always surfing, snorkeling, fishing, and going for barefoot runs on the beach! Looking forward to July.[/QUOTE]
    Go talk to spongebob, GD, fortaleza-newf. From what I can tell based on the forum, they run a pornography ring!!!!

  • #208480

    [QUOTE=KellyGuy] I would love to think that I have a chance for romance with a younger Brazilian woman, but having turned 50, I doubt that is very likely. Oh well, there’s always surfing, snorkeling, fishing, and going for barefoot runs on the beach! Looking forward to July.[/QUOTE]
    50? Surfing? Snorkeing? Barefoot runs? Well, your chances are great! Just don’t invite them to go fishing and you’ll be fine. You know, younger Brazilian women sometimes prefer older guys because they tend to be more mature, liberal (“cool-headed”) and give them a sense of protection.

  • #208510

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=KellyGuy] I would love to think that I have a chance for romance with a younger Brazilian woman, but having turned 50, I doubt that is very likely. Oh well, there’s always surfing, snorkeling, fishing, and going for barefoot runs on the beach! Looking forward to July.[/QUOTE]
    50? Surfing? Snorkeing? Barefoot runs? Well, your chances are great! Just don’t invite them to go fishing and you’ll be fine. You know, younger Brazilian women sometimes prefer older guys because they tend to be more mature, liberal (“cool-headed”) and give them a sense of protection. [/QUOTE]
    and they have money!

  • #208511

    [QUOTE=cara0910] [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=KellyGuy] I would love to think that I have a chance for romance with a younger Brazilian woman, but having turned 50, I doubt that is very likely. Oh well, there’s always surfing, snorkeling, fishing, and going for barefoot runs on the beach! Looking forward to July.[/QUOTE]
    50? Surfing? Snorkeing? Barefoot runs? Well, your chances are great! Just don’t invite them to go fishing and you’ll be fine. You know, younger Brazilian women sometimes prefer older guys because they tend to be more mature, liberal (“cool-headed”) and give them a sense of protection. [/QUOTE]
    and they have money!
    [/QUOTE]
    Well, at least a 50-year-old guy isn’t as likely to be fooled as a 20-year-old guy (or so I hope.)

  • #208513

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=cara0910] [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=KellyGuy] I would love to think that I have a chance for romance with a younger Brazilian woman, but having turned 50, I doubt that is very likely. Oh well, there’s always surfing, snorkeling, fishing, and going for barefoot runs on the beach! Looking forward to July.[/QUOTE]
    50? Surfing? Snorkeing? Barefoot runs? Well, your chances are great! Just don’t invite them to go fishing and you’ll be fine. You know, younger Brazilian women sometimes prefer older guys because they tend to be more mature, liberal (“cool-headed”) and give them a sense of protection. [/QUOTE]
    and they have money!
    [/QUOTE]
    Well, at least a 50-year-old guy isn’t as likely to be fooled as a 20-year-old guy (or so I hope.)[/QUOTE]
    Nor is he as likely to have an erection without a pill!!!!!

    That one is for you Fortaleza-Newf!!!!! Looks from your picture like you are near the big 5-0!

  • #208592

    RioVida
    Member

    KellyGuy…. you will do just fine…. quite active it seems. Just choose who you romance carefully…. You might crash and burn a few times but nothing ventured….LOL

  • #208606

    jheathco
    Member

    CheckPls, thanks for the encouragement! As for being choosey, that’s not a problem with me, which is why I’ve hardly dated at all in the last few years. Yes, I like to be active–having the opportunity to just go for a nice long swim in warm ocean water is something I’m very much looking forward to.

  • #208612

    [QUOTE=KellyGuy] CheckPls, thanks for the encouragement! As for being choosey, that’s not a problem with me, which is why I’ve hardly dated at all in the last few years. Yes, I like to be active–having the opportunity to just go for a nice long swim in warm ocean water is something I’m very much looking forward to.
    [/QUOTE]
    Then head to northeast Brazil. The water there is much warmer than it is on the south. I guess you’ll love it.

  • #208622

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=KellyGuy]CheckPls, thanks for the encouragement! As for being choosey, that’s not a problem with me, which is why I’ve hardly dated at all in the last few years. Yes, I like to be active–having the opportunity to just go for a nice long swim in warm ocean water is something I’m very much looking forward to.[/QUOTE]
    My recommendation is try to stick withfamily-oriented women. I’m sayin that because a few years back, an American was killed by the woman and her boyfriend after they stole $50,000 from him. To get rid of the evidence, they tried to burn the body. I don’t remember more of the story though…
    I know a guy in his late 50s with a woman in her mid thirties. I have seen more extreme cases, like 60 and 18, but those guys are usually MEGA rich empresários.

  • #208628

    Gilmour
    Member

    Paranoid more like it.
    I think GringoDudes recommendation is much better – just rent some hookers.

  • #208636

    agri2001
    Participant

    There are isolated cases of men being offed for their money and you dont have to be 50++ dating a younger woman.
    there has been cases where the guys were 30+ and met the same fate.
    I do know first hand of men in their 60`s living with woman way younger then them.
    i guess a case can be made that the woman are just bidding their time till the guy croaks from natural causes then swoop in for the kill.
    But who cares these guys are having the time of their lifes, something they couldn’t dream of in their respective countries.
    Then of course the other alternative is to hire a wife for the night.

  • #208647

    jessie
    Member

    theres a novela called avenida brasil on globo where theres an old guy with this young girl thats much much much younger. Its normal here. Just hit show them the passport lol.. jk they are always loking for something new even when youre old lol

  • #208649

    jheathco
    Member

    I’m not even vaguely interested in “much much younger”, if by that you mean someone in her early 20’s. Or even her 20’s at all, really.

  • #208654

    agri2001
    Participant

    @Kelly just go out and have fun and not worry what others might think of you.

  • #209383

    Pedro
    Member

    [QUOTE=Megabyte] [QUOTE=JonSanti78] i have been here since Oct. and have found it very easy but I havent used it to my advantage. I find it strange just hooking up. Though I understand I should get some and move on I find it strange not being exclusive. I guess I noticed they get very attached. Like marriage is asked after first date.I’m just more private and who knows I might just find one and not need a whole bunch. But yep english is a panty dropper and when they see the passport its over.. lol.. I’m in Curitiba and would like to make new friends. eumando78@hotmail.com[/QUOTE]
    This is a sign someone is interested on your money, not you.[/QUOTE]

    Yes if they are looking to move in quickly, they are probably after your wallet aswell, not saying its not you, but that is what they are interested in also.
  • #209384

    Pedro
    Member

    [QUOTE=krevfeim]My experience was/is that Brazilian girls go for Brazilian guys (long term). All the Brazilian girls, I was informed, in London or Paris for example, wouldn’t go near a gringo at all. I was just using my scorching hot chat-up lines to make it happen with the wild Brazilian love machine for me…and boy, did it cost a lot of money!!![/QUOTE]

    Pffrrr?? are you sure?
    Pounded by latin poles all night, hmmmm?? hahahahaha LOLLOLLOL
    You sound like a good Catholic boy…I think we have just found the answer..LOL
    Rubbing my eyes in disbelief…Wtf??

    Amsterdam2012-05-03 23:11:09

  • #209391

    GringoBahia
    Member

    I think Brasileiras just like poles in general, as long as it works well. I don’t know if they pole discriminate here in Brazil.

  • #210640

    chrish
    Member

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]
    Nothing to do with the lower classes of prostitutes. An educated gringo is light years ahead of the macho mama’s boy Brazilian in terms of how to treat a woman. Also free English lessons from a native speaker…
    [/QUOTE]
    this is true, brazilian guys have this entitled arrogant attitude towards women which why they don’t do well with american chicks generally. Brazilian girls have no choice but to fall for it because all the local guys behave like that.
    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]
    Then you have the genetic desire to diversify the gene pool. Hybrids have better health as they have a more diversified collection of DNA,[/QUOTE]
    I dunno this reads like stupid bro science lol
    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]
    Then you have the Xuxa/Disney/Snow White effect. On a subconcious level Brazilians have been flooded since birth with propaganda the white is good. [/QUOTE]
    actually if you pay a bit of attention to the local soap operas, most of the biggest stars aren’t blonde aryans but rather the latin type (what you’d call latinos in america are simply called white in Brazil). Juliana Paes, Cleo Pires, Marcos Pasquim, Paulo Vilhena. The most desired celebs in Brazil are latinos.
    Like anywhere else, I think being a gringo will work synergistically with your looks/bank account. If you are good looking or have money, then being a gringo will give that pinch of mystery and girls will want you. If you are neither good looking or rich then you will be a loser and an outcast.marcobjj2012-05-15 20:03:00

  • #210741

    Gilmour
    Member

    [quote]
    Like anywhere else, I think being a gringo will work synergistically with your looks/bank account. If you are good looking or have money, then being a gringo will give that pinch of mystery and girls will want you. If you are neither good looking or rich then you will be a loser and an outcast.[/QUOTE]
    You said the correct words.. “like anywhere else”. Latinos, Ladinos, Multatoes.. really at the end of the day it is your money, and secondly, your earning potential that counts. Women are fun and easy everywhere. Brazil is no different.

  • #212225

    evogel
    Member

    You reap what you sow….. if you just want to go get your pee pee wet and have as much sex as possible… then thats what you will get….. if you want genuine love and respect that is available as well. I prefer love/respect and I am happy with, minha gatinha linda. And I get the most amazing sex as a bonus….. I am a very blessed man.LOLcobrakhan52012-06-05 07:36:38

  • #212234

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=cobrakhan5]
    You reap what you sow….. if you just want to go get your pee pee wet and have as much sex as possible… then thats what you will get….. if you want¬† genuine love and respect that is available as well.¬† I prefer love/respect and I am happy with, minha¬†gatinha linda.¬†
    And I get the most amazing sex as a bonus….. I am a very¬†blessed man.LOL
    [/QUOTE]
    sex outside of marriage? tsk tsk…..

  • #212236

    evogel
    Member

    I am sorry….. is the sinner casting stones?

  • #212247

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=cobrakhan5]

    I am sorry….. is the sinner casting stones?

    [/QUOTE]
    WHAT????
    your actions are drowning out your words

  • #212248

    evogel
    Member

    Sinner = casting stones, it is the story when Jesus had stood up for the woman was caught in adultery He said “he who is without sin cast the first stone”….. the “pharisee” men walked away and left the woman…… I guess it is applicative in more than one way. Congratulations. I guess that makes you a pharisee Clap

  • #212253

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=cobrakhan5]

    Sinner = casting stones, ¬†it is the story when Jesus had stood up for the woman was caught in adultery He said “he who is without sin cast the first stone”…..¬†¬†the “pharisee”¬†men walked away and left the woman…… I guess it is applicative in more than one way. Congratulations. I guess that makes you a pharisee Clap

    [/QUOTE]
    I understood the reference, I am no stranger to the stories of the bible.

  • #221827

    fallen
    Member

    White skin and rock and roll!

  • #221828

    fallen
    Member

    everything in brazil is so americanized that girls just want a real american then!

  • #222268

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=ughgirl] everything in brazil is so americanized that girls just want a real american then![/QUOTE]
    post a real profile pic then! If you’re the REAL DEAL then probably a real gringo would be better off with you than some “wolf in sheeps clothing.” (if you want a more politcally-UNcorrect translation, just PM me.). I only speak the truth!

  • #222273

    fallen
    Member

    I don’t want to make you fall in love!

  • #222277

    Patigell
    Member

    I smell minger.

  • #222345

    fallen
    Member

    LOL

  • #252273

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=Twirly]^^UK women = Pasty looking whales with horrible teeth.
    No wonder binge drinking is so popular as that is the only way you can stand going down on those creatures.[/QUOTE]
    I almost thought you were describing American women until you mentioned the teeth. LOLThe women here are fat, and mostly pasty, but they do tend to have better teeth.
    I think the U.K. and U.S. have the same problem, however…a shortage of beautiful women. The average woman in the U.S., between 35 and 50, is fat, or ugly, or fat and ugly. And they think clothes, a new hairdo or tattoo is going to alter that in some way. What they really need is a membership to weight watchers, and a good gym. And this problem is getting worse with so many women getting jobs where they sit down, and then they go home and sit down in front of their computers.
    Same problem for men, but not nearly as much because many more men have physically demanding jobs that burn calories, combined with the natural fact that men are biologically designed to carry less fat anyway…or so I have been told.
    I just broke it off with the Brazilian lady I was serious about. Ugly things reared their head, and after my ex, I promised myself that I would not ignore any future warning signs.
    Anyway, I love how in shape most Brazilian women are, and I can deal with a certain amount of jealousy, so long as it isn’t violent, or extreme, and I love how affectionate they are, both verbally and physically, but I wonder if marrying one is a pipe dream.
    I have many fears.
    If I bring one here, I fear that she just wants a green card, and will leave for some more successful, better looking guy, once she is safe to do so. Think about it, just as Brazil is a Candy Store for Gringo men, the U.S. is a Candy Store for Brazilian women. A very beautiful Brazilian women could almost have her pick of men here.
    I have a friend whose brother married a Brazilian girl. He did this while my friend, his brother was in the military and deployed. So he had been married for a little over 2 years before my friend made it home and was able to meet her.
    His brother had decided to surprise her and show up near her work and surprise her with the intro to his brother. They sat at a restaurant right beside where she works, so he could see her come out, to go to lunch.
    When her lunch hour arrived, the son of one of the local Car dealers, showed up and parked out front and walked into the building where she worked. A couple of minutes later, he walked out with the brother’s wife on his arm, and walked her to his fancy car, and they drove off before the two brothers could get outside. Needless to say fireworks followed later, and she, now free to do so, moved out and ended up marrying the rich guy.
    So yeah, I fear that could happen. You never know how she would react to a lot of guys making very good offers to her. My best defense against that, IMHO is to find a woman who has fairly deep protestant religious values, but then, that is not a guarantee, and I know it. I am a Seventh-Day-Adventist, and I do know that they tend to be better about this than the average, but that is here, and I don’t know about Brazilian SDA’s.
    I also fear her having a false notion of America. Thanks to American TV and movies, there are some people who still think that every American is moderately wealthy. We know better. People here struggle the same as in most other countries. Sure maybe not as bad as some places, but there is still some poverty, and the average person still has to work pretty hard to have anything above average.
    I was totally amazed when this Brazilian lady I was involved with told me that to have a nice life there, I would have to earn, along with her, about $10K reais per month. Heck, that will buy a pretty nice life here in the States too. The problem is, there is no way were were going to make that amount. I have been up front and honest that I am not anything close to wealthy, but I think she thought I was, and was trying to downplay it, or hide it, so that I could “find true love.”
    Which brings me to the fear of moving there. Getting a job, as I understand, is not easy, and getting one that pays decently is near to impossible. I thought that my Navy retirement would make moving there easier, and in fact I was under the false notion that living there would be easier than living here. I do know that there are some countries where this is very true. Money goes much much further in those places, especially with a local woman to protect that money from scammers.
    So as you can see, it seems like it is a pipe dream. It feels as if I would be taking on a whole lot of heart ache, just to have a beautiful woman.

  • #252279

    for me it is cos brazilian men are just crap…
    I work with a very beautiful girl – smart, funny, heart of gold…
    her husband of 3 years has just given up… treats her badly etc…
    he is also very controlling and paranoid…
    been on the cards for a while now… but gtting close to the time when I will give him something to be paranoid about…
    I mean just tell her she is beautiful… keep her happy…
    I did – and now I have opened a real can of worms!

  • #252280

    graham
    Participant

    Thank God my life has never seemed so complicated as all of this, or maybe it has and I just never cared too much to try to figure it out.

  • #252281

    ha ha mine wasnt… I just made a comment, true comment to this girl… and she opened up to me… now looks wise if we were in the UK she wouldnt look twice at a guy like me…
    brazilian men think once they are married they can just tret their wife like sh*te… see other women, control them etc…
    thing is this girl knows different… who nows where thi will end up…

  • #252286

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=scottyh]
    I mean just tell her she is beautiful… keep her happy…
    I did – and now I have opened a real can of worms! [/QUOTE]
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nSmuDVDo_Yg/Ub4972N-LnI/AAAAAAAAK28/-aXOIg1DboY/s400/DangerWillRobinson.jpg
    Danger Will Robinson!!
    Just because the husband acts like he doesn’t care, doesn’t mean he doesn’t care when a gringo comes sniffing around. Also, I hear a lot in this thread about how horrible the men are, but is it a one way street? Are Brazilian women controlling? Do they make you feel as if you are in a “john/prostitute” relationship, even if they are very giving in bed, etc.. In other words do you feel like you are a show dog jumping through hoops all of the time?
    I have never been to Brazil, so I am trying to get a feel for what the reality is there, vs the fantasy. This website, so far has been very enlightening.

  • #252291

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=scottyh]ha ha mine wasnt… I just made a comment, true comment to this girl… and she opened up to me… now looks wise if we were in the UK she wouldnt look twice at a guy like me…
    brazilian men think once they are married they can just tret their wife like sh*te… see other women, control them etc…
    thing is this girl knows different… who nows where thi will end up… [/QUOTE]

    I’msure you know that as long as you continue talking like the mythical PrinceCharming while thinking within the confines of your Calvin Klein’s, thatmessing about with a damsel in distress, AKA a married woman, will likely causea heap of trouble. Besides, if she cheats on her husband while telling you somesob story that your ejaculatory equipment is apparently so eager to believe,what does such behaviour tell you? And if you progress to enjoy a ‘littledalliance’ with another man’s wife, what does that make you?

    Theend game will, at best, most likely prove to be nothing more than an anticlimacticwet spot on the sheets and major embarrassment in the office or, at worst, thevexed husband may pop a well-deserved .38 calibre slug in your ball-sack.

    [Hint]If you want to be a valid member of society, your philosophy need absorb nomore than the following: Do unto others as you would they do unto you. [Thisdoesn’t apply to masochists!].

  • #252293

    JohnBR
    Member

    Awesome reply Espirit.

  • #252294

    JohnBR
    Member

    Actually, to add to what Espirit said, you can also get a reputation that you don’t want. If you are willing to sleep with another man’s wife, will those around you be OK with that? Will men who know, or hear second hand, decide they don’t want you to be invited to parties, group gatherings, etc…
    Will women believe that you are an easy mark for a sad story?
    I heard some really good advice regarding children that also applies to adults around us. You train people on how to treat you, or react to you, by how you treat them.
    Here was the advice regarding children. Never scream or holler at them. Have you ever seen that parent who is constantly having to holler at his/her child? Know why this is? Because they have trained the child that they don’t have to respond until mommy or daddy hollers at them.
    If you never scream or holler, and give them their punishment with no hollering as a warning, they learn to respond to a normal voice.
    Now apply that to people. If you eagerly pay for drinks…people learn you will eagerly pay for drinks. If you never say no to somebody who asks to borrow something, and then never insist on getting the item back, people will learn that they can borrow your stuff, indefinitely. If you gossip behind people’s backs, your friends ill know you are a gossip and treat you as such…etc…
    In this case, if you play as her knight in shining armor, in a romantic way, you will be labeled as an easy mark for a sad story. Now, if you really want to help, give her advice on how to fix her marriage, or how to get out (without moving in with you) if she feels there is no hope for the marriage.

  • #252304

    all valid points… nothing has or will happen… just saying it could easily – many men would have taken advantage by now…
    if I dont some guy will
    trust me husband is an ass…
    poor gal just wants to be loved or at least care for…

  • #252305

    JohnBR
    Member

    scotty, the husband may very well be an ass, but make her leave him…divorce him, before taking the next step. If she hints strongly that she wants to be with you, make her aware that it is what you also want, but that she has to be courageous enough to end it with him first…officially. It will also show her that you have morals, character and principles, which will pay dividends in the end, if you really want something long term.

  • #252322

    yep your right… difficult though… shouldnt have said anything… I know this would have been the result…
    just wanna make her happy… she deserves it

  • #252323

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=scottyh]yep your right… difficult though… shouldnt have said anything… I know this would have been the result…
    just wanna make her happy… she deserves it [/QUOTE]
    I don’t think you did anything wrong. Many men want to rescue the damsel in distress. It causes a love bond also. I will also tell you, though, that this can often end in tears, especially if you rush in and allow passion to rule your decisions.
    The thing is, you really want to see what she is like when she doesn’t NEED you to rescue her. This is why you want to let her know that she must leave him first, before anything can happen between the two of you. After that has happened, and the dust settles, that is the time to then court her in a more traditional manner. Then you will be able to see her for who she really is. When a woman is looking to be rescued, she can be the sweetest, kindest, most beautiful creature alive. Of course she is, because she needs to be rescued. But what is she like when she no longer needs that? That is the question.
    Also, I tell every man I know, or meet, this one thing…if a woman ever calls the cops on you, or any man, when she really didn’t need to…treat her as if she has the plague. She is seriously bad news, and you could very well end up in jail, if you get involved with her. I met woman who issues the paperwork and counsels for restraining orders, and she admitted that many many women use this stuff as a power play.
    I don’t know how it works there in Brazil. But I think I would want, even more, to not go to jail if I were in Brazil. At least you get proper nutrition and clean surroundings in an American jail. May not be pleasant, but it won’t be life or health threatening.

  • #252361

    you are of course all correct.. we spoke today and agreed about how the fall out whould all be too much… hopefully we can countinue to be good friends etc… I have actually been in a situation like this before when I was 21 and it all backfired…

    we talked and joked about maybe in the next life etc… if she decides to leave her husband and in the future we have an opportunity then who knows but for now – back to being close friends.. hopefully the husband will realise how lucky he is and pull his finger out though frankly that aint none of my business…

  • #252363

    JohnBR
    Member

    Wise move Scottyh, and think about this…if she is truly, madly in love with you, she would do what it takes to make that happen. If he is really that bad, she would leave him without having a new guy to turn to. Maybe she is just tired of him, and he is now tired of her. It happens. But would you be the next guy she just got tired of? Women play that game all the time. Move from one guy to the next and suck the life out of them, before moving on to the next victim.
    I don’t know how old you are, but be very very careful about your choice in women. Learn about the 5 love languages. Some people think anything like this is BS, but the fact is, psychology is a relatively new science, and they are learning more and more. This is based on this science, and what they have found is that there are 5 main ways in which men and women bond in a loving relationship. Truthfully, I think a good relationship has a little of all of them, but at least one is going to be very important to you. It will be your primary love language. For me, it is physical touch. This is why I am looking for a Brazilian woman. I have it on good authority that they are very needy in that regard, which is heaven to me. See, I have never understood guys who will have the most amazing hot babe of a girlfriend, and then he would dump her and I would ask why, and he would say, “She was always hanging on me like a wet noodle.” See, the problem wasn’t her…it isn’t her fault that her primary love language is physical touch…they just weren’t the right people for each other. For him, Acts of Service, Quality Time, or Gifts, Words of Affirmation were his primary, and physical touch was not very high on his love language profile. For me, it is maxed out. So these girls would have been perfect for me.
    http://www.5lovelanguages.com/profile/husbands/
    http://www.5lovelanguages.com/profile/wives/
    Next time you find a girl you like, have her take the one for wives. Hopefully you won’t have to translate for her, but if you do, remind her to be honest, and she should not ever think, “what does he want me to answer?” when she is taking it. Remind her that this profile will also tell you how to love her, so if she is dishonest, she should not blame you when you are not giving her the kind of love she wants and needs.
    Your profiles don’t have to be a perfect match, but what you are looking to avoid is a woman whose profile is nothing at all like yours. For me an my ex, that was the case. For me, the most important are physical touch quality time, and words of affirmation, and gifts was dead last. For her, gifts is #1, acts of service #2, and physical touch was dead last. It made for a marriage made in hell. While I did do a lot of gifts and acts of service for her, in the beginning, I never really had what I wanted from her, so I know I tapered off, and so she tapered off, and eventually it was just a very cold marriage. In the end, we were just roommates that didn’t like each other.

  • #252374

    Im actually 37 so should and do no better…
    we talked today.. and I put it on the line if she was really unhappy to leave her husband and we go from there…
    I am not single either so complicates things even more…
    I beleive in fate.. if it is really meant to happen it will… if not was nice to feel wanted etc.. and on with the daily trudge of real life!

  • #252383

    I seriously do not understand you guys. You wish for women that spell trouble, then you get under the spell and curse them for ever being the target of a mermaid chant.

  • #252385

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=scottyh]

    you are of course all correct.. we spoke today and agreed about how the fall out whould all be too much… hopefully we can countinue to be good friends etc… I have actually been in¬†a situation like this before when I was 21 and it all backfired…

    we talked and joked about maybe in the next life etc…

     

    if she decides to leave her husband and in the future we have an opportunity then who knows but for now – back to being close friends..

     

    hopefully the husband will realise how lucky he is and pull his finger out though frankly that aint none of my business…

     

     

    [/QUOTE]
    She will tell her husband about you. You will need to be extremely careful.GreatBallsoFire2013-06-25 21:35:32

  • #252386

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    Thecontinuing theme of these posts seems to be dominated by an understandablepredilection toward beautiful, native young woman with good teeth and who arenot financially demanding yet might appreciatively fawn over a wise gringo insome Ernest Hemmingway scenario where they live happily ever after surviving onfish, coconuts and ball massages. This, or anything vaguely similar, ain’tgonna happen in this life or the next. Y’know, when it comes to women, someguys, including the love gurus that are hypnotised by a throbbing in their underwear,know so much about so little that in effect they know everything about nothing.

  • #252389

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit]

    Thecontinuing theme of these posts seems to be dominated by an understandablepredilection toward beautiful, native young woman with good teeth and who arenot financially demanding yet might appreciatively fawn over a wise gringo insome Ernest Hemmingway scenario where they live happily ever after surviving onfish, coconuts and ball massages.[/QUOTE]

    You say that like it’s a bad thing. LOLWink

  • #252821

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] [QUOTE=braza1000]<SPAN =”hps”>Gringos</SPAN> <SPAN =”hps”>may be</SPAN> more <SPAN =”hps”>popular with</SPAN> <SPAN =”hps”>prostitutes and</SPAN> <SPAN =”hps”>women of</SPAN> <SPAN =”hps”>lower class</SPAN><SPAN>, otherwise it</SPAN> <SPAN =”hps”>could be… love.</SPAN>[/QUOTE]
    [An educated gringo is light years ahead of the macho mama’s boy Brazilian in terms of how to treat a woman. [/QUOTE]
    That is what it comes down to.
    I once had a girlfriend tell me how polite I was because I used the word please. That is it. I said please once and she was taken aback.
    Brazilian men are mama’s boys and tend to be hyper-macho and competitive. They also cheat as if it were the only way to carry on a relationship. They tend to be demanding, control freaks who carry on as if acting like a dependent 12-year-old is what every women in the world is looking for in a man. Brazilian women who experience something that isn’t that, go crazy.
    The reverse is true for American men. When we see feminine and sexy women that haven’t been brainwashed with the “all men are s&*t” syndrome that has taken over the United States and many other parts of the Western world, we go crazy. You mean you like to dress like that all the time, don’t use sex and your sexually as a weapon and want to maintain a healthy, happy relationship? Wow!
    I always tell my American friends to learn either Portuguese or Spanish and get a year’s worth of culture under their belts to find a decent mate. American women should date Brazilian men and American men should date Brazilian women. Unless of your course you are gay.

  • #252822

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit]
    <font size=”3″ face=”Times New Roman”>
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    continuing theme of these posts seems to be dominated by an understandable
    predilection toward beautiful, native young woman with good teeth and who are
    not financially demanding yet might appreciatively fawn over a wise gringo in
    some Ernest Hemmingway scenario where they live happily ever after surviving on
    fish, coconuts and ball massages. This, or anything vaguely similar, ain’t
    gonna happen in this life or the next. Y’know, when it comes to women, some
    guys, including the love gurus that are hypnotised by a throbbing in their underwear,
    know so much about so little that in effect they know everything about nothing.
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    [/QUOTE]
    Just find a decent Brazilian woman. You will see the difference. I get the feeling you don’t have a girlfriend or wife and if you do, she isn’t doing it for you. Why the anger?

  • #252826

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=usaalltheway] [QUOTE=Esprit]
    Thecontinuing theme of these posts seems to be dominated by an understandablepredilection toward beautiful, native young woman with good teeth and who arenot financially demanding yet might appreciatively fawn over a wise gringo insome Ernest Hemmingway scenario where they live happily ever after surviving onfish, coconuts and ball massages. This, or anything vaguely similar, ain’tgonna happen in this life or the next. Y’know, when it comes to women, someguys, including the love gurus that are hypnotised by a throbbing in their underwear,
    know so much about so little that in effect they know everything about nothing.
    [/QUOTE]
    Just find a decent Brazilian woman. You will see the difference. I get the feeling you don’t have a girlfriend or wife and if you do, she isn’t doing it for you. Why the anger? [/QUOTE]

    Againwe have yet another presumptuous comment lacking in any factual information atits basis other than an example of the cretinism so often found on these pages.

    It’sworth repeating that our intrepid poster ‘gets the feeling’ that I don’t have agirlfriend or wife and even if I did it’s his opinion that she ‘isn’t doing it’for me. Oh, and he continues this narcissistic babble by suggesting that I’mangry because of this. Again another example of someone knowing so much about so little that ineffect he knows everything about nothing; experts with an expertise that is likelylimited the ideal relationships depicted in their masturbatory fantasies. “Ooh,come here you decent Brazilian woman and let me show you…” LOL

  • #252832

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=usaalltheway] [QUOTE=Esprit]
    Thecontinuing theme of these posts seems to be dominated by an understandablepredilection toward beautiful, native young woman with good teeth and who arenot financially demanding yet might appreciatively fawn over a wise gringo insome Ernest Hemmingway scenario where they live happily ever after surviving onfish, coconuts and ball massages. This, or anything vaguely similar, ain’tgonna happen in this life or the next. Y’know, when it comes to women, someguys, including the love gurus that are hypnotised by a throbbing in their underwear,
    know so much about so little that in effect they know everything about nothing.
    [/QUOTE]
    Just find a decent Brazilian woman. You will see the difference. I get the feeling you don’t have a girlfriend or wife and if you do, she isn’t doing it for you. Why the anger? [/QUOTE]

    Againwe have yet another presumptuous comment lacking in any factual information atits basis other than an example of the cretinism so often found on these pages.

    It’sworth repeating that our intrepid poster ‘gets the feeling’ that I don’t have agirlfriend or wife and even if I did it’s his opinion that she ‘isn’t doing it’for me. Oh, and he continues this narcissistic babble by suggesting that I’mangry because of this. Again another example of someone knowing so much about so little that ineffect he knows everything about nothing; experts with an expertise that is likelylimited the ideal relationships depicted in their masturbatory fantasies. “Ooh,come here you decent Brazilian woman and let me show you…” LOL

    [/QUOTE]
    Well, there is no conjecture need here. You come across as a real A-hole. Know it all, done it all. You are in Brazil for the right reason, and nobody else is…etc… Maybe a vacation is in order. Get out, get away from the message boards. The problem is that you aren’t unique. Every message board has people like you. People who act like a jerk to newer people, which only makes the place less friendly, less inviting to new posters. Even older posters eventually tire of it and leave. I’ve seen it on too many boards. Attitudes like this, for instance, ruined the CBSSPORTS.com message boards. When I fist went there, it was full of people, but the moderators did nothing about some trolls that showed up there, and eventually the majority of good posters left.

  • #252833

    esprit should be banned for life!

  • #252836

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=RustyBuckeye][QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=usaalltheway] [QUOTE=Esprit]
    Thecontinuing theme of these posts seems to be dominated by an understandablepredilection toward beautiful, native young woman with good teeth and who arenot financially demanding yet might appreciatively fawn over a wise gringo insome Ernest Hemmingway scenario where they live happily ever after surviving onfish, coconuts and ball massages. This, or anything vaguely similar, ain’tgonna happen in this life or the next. Y’know, when it comes to women, someguys, including the love gurus that are hypnotised by a throbbing in their underwear,
    know so much about so little that in effect they know everything about nothing.
    [/QUOTE]
    Just find a decent Brazilian woman. You will see the difference. I get the feeling you don’t have a girlfriend or wife and if you do, she isn’t doing it for you. Why the anger? [/QUOTE]

    Againwe have yet another presumptuous comment lacking in any factual information atits basis other than an example of the cretinism so often found on these pages.

    It’sworth repeating that our intrepid poster ‘gets the feeling’ that I don’t have agirlfriend or wife and even if I did it’s his opinion that she ‘isn’t doing it’for me. Oh, and he continues this narcissistic babble by suggesting that I’mangry because of this. Again another example of someone knowing so much about so little that ineffect he knows everything about nothing; experts with an expertise that is likelylimited the ideal relationships depicted in their masturbatory fantasies. “Ooh,come here you decent Brazilian woman and let me show you…” LOL

    [/QUOTE]
    Well, there is no conjecture need here. You come across as a real A-hole. Know it all, done it all. You are in Brazil for the right reason, and nobody else is…etc… Maybe a vacation is in order. Get out, get away from the message boards. The problem is that you aren’t unique. Every message board has people like you. People who act like a jerk to newer people, which only makes the place less friendly, less inviting to new posters. Even older posters eventually tire of it and leave. I’ve seen it on too many boards. Attitudes like this, for instance, ruined the CBSSPORTS.com message boards. When I fist went there, it was full of people, but the moderators did nothing about some trolls that showed up there, and eventually the majority of good posters left.
    [/QUOTE]

    Rusty,where have I professed to know it all or to have done it all; whatever thatmeans? And unlike you, a person who has never been to Brazil, what reason haveI ever given for actually being in Brazil, or condemned the reasons for othersbeing here? Your remarks are unwarranted and without any justification.

    Intruth, you’re a little irked by the fact that I commented on your patronising ‘expertadvice’ concerning personal relationships and the so-called five languages oflove. Thus far this pseudo expertise, so obviously acquired and untested inlater life, has drawn you away from North American women and pointed you south tothe more gullible Brazilians and to where most any gringo can be swamped inattention.

    Ofcourse, we are all entitled to comment within the house rules but you are notentitled to ask me to get out or to harass me by posting unwarranted and, inparticular, untrue comments and attribute them to me.

  • #252851

    graham
    Participant

    @Esprit: Enjoy your POV. IMO, some of the “new” posters are whirl wonders who splash on the scene making a rash of meaningless comments and then pass pronouncements without much merit other than their own interest to interject self importance. Hence arise personality dialogs when they are exposed. They then thrive on beating defenses. Mission accomplished; ego stroked; splash made. Life goes on.
    Why must air be so free?Grads2013-07-02 08:58:46

  • #252859

    Drewski
    Member

    [QUOTE=RustyBuckeye]
    [QUOTE=Esprit]
    [QUOTE=usaalltheway] [QUOTE=Esprit]
    The
    continuing theme of these posts seems to be dominated by an understandable
    predilection toward beautiful, native young woman with good teeth and who are
    not financially demanding yet might appreciatively fawn over a wise gringo in
    some Ernest Hemmingway scenario where they live happily ever after surviving on
    fish, coconuts and ball massages. This, or anything vaguely similar, ain’t
    gonna happen in this life or the next. Y’know, when it comes to women, some
    guys, including the love gurus that are hypnotised by a throbbing in their underwear,
    know so much about so little that in effect they know everything about nothing.
    [/QUOTE]
    Just find a decent Brazilian woman. You will see the difference. I get the feeling you don’t have a girlfriend or wife and if you do, she isn’t doing it for you. Why the anger? [/QUOTE]

    <font face=”Times New Roman” size=”3″>
    <p style=”margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;” =”msonormal”=””><span =”st”=””><span style=”line-height: 115%; font-family: “Verdana”,”sans-serif”; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: “Times New Roman”;”>Again
    we have yet another presumptuous comment lacking in any factual information at
    its basis other than an example of the cretinism so often found on these pages.
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    worth repeating that our intrepid poster ‘gets the feeling’ that I don’t have a
    girlfriend or wife and even if I did it’s his opinion that she ‘isn’t doing it’
    for me. Oh, and he continues this narcissistic babble by suggesting that I’m
    angry because of this. Again another example of someone </span></span><span style=”color: black; line-height: 115%; font-family: “Verdana”,”sans-serif”; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;”>knowing so much about so little that in
    effect he knows everything about nothing;</span><span =”st”=””><span style=”line-height: 115%; font-family: “Verdana”,”sans-serif”; font-size: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-family: “Times New Roman”;”> experts with an expertise that is likely
    limited the ideal relationships depicted in their masturbatory fantasies. “Ooh,
    come here you decent Brazilian woman and let me show you‚Ķ‚Äù LOL<o:p></o:p></span></span><font face=”Times New Roman” size=”3″>

    [/QUOTE]Well, there is no conjecture need here.¬† You come across as a real A-hole.¬† Know it all, done it all.¬† You are in Brazil for the right reason, and nobody else is…etc…¬† Maybe a vacation is in order.¬† Get out, get away from the message boards.¬† The problem is that you aren’t unique.¬† Every message board has people like you.¬† People who act like a jerk to newer people, which only makes the place less friendly, less inviting to new posters.¬† Even older posters eventually tire of it and leave.¬† I’ve seen it on too many boards.¬† Attitudes like this, for instance, ruined the CBSSPORTS.com message boards.¬† When I fist went there, it was full of people, but the moderators did nothing about some trolls that showed up there, and eventually the majority of good posters left.[/QUOTE]
    I must agree with this guy. You came across as a real jerk.
    My intentions were not to put you down or make you feel bad. You will notice the way I worded things, so as to avoid that. I have no idea what you marital status is. I just wanted to express that having a nice Brazilian lady in your life is a good thing.
    Either way, I get the impression you are miserable, for whatever reason. I hope I am wrong but based on your posts, you seem like an unhappy person.
    Feel better man!

  • #252872

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=usaalltheway]
    I must agree with this guy. You came across as a real jerk.
    My intentions were not to put you down or make you feel bad. You will notice the way I worded things, so as to avoid that. I have no idea what you marital status is. I just wanted to express that having a nice Brazilian lady in your life is a good thing.
    Either way, I get the impression you are miserable, for whatever reason. I hope I am wrong but based on your posts, you seem like an unhappy person.
    Feel better man!
    [/QUOTE]

    FranklyI wouldn’t ordinarily respond to such fatuous comments yet, if leftunchallenged, it reflects badly on the forum and would likely deter the moreserious members from offering their contributions.

    Forexample, the fellow offers an insult; calling me a ‘jerk’ then immediatelyinsists that it is not his intention to make me feel bad. He then confessesthat although he knows nothing about my marital status he suggests, assumingone of two options: a wife or girlfriend that neither is ‘doing it for me’ andthat I should get a ‘decent’ Brazilian lady. He then has the audacity to claimthat his remarks are carefully worded such as to avoid making me feel bad;extraordinary! Anyone possessed of a modicum of social intelligence can seethat such remarks are highly offensive. What we have here is an inarticulatedegenerate attempting to clumsily express the wisps of inconsequential thoughtsthat swim in the shallows of his mind.

  • #257733

    oneoone
    Member

    Found this to be pretty entertaining.

    From my personal experience most of the guys, Brazilian, Puerto Rican, Colombian, ect, treat their women like crap. Not saying every Gringo treats their women great, but chances are they are more likely to. Most Brazilian guys I know or met would always be cheating on their girls. Now, the girls aren’t always innocent themselves. Lots of Brazilian girls would have a Brazilian and American guy. Most of the Brazilian guys I have known or met, could never get and keep an American girl for long.
    Lots of Brazilian girls don’t just fall all over Gringo guys. Lots of the ones I have dated, never dated a Gringo before. Either because they were too scared to approach them due to little or no English. Or the fact they would only go out to Brazilian/Portuguese bars/clubs.
    Most of the Brazilian girls I dated that were younger or around my age, acted like little kids and nothing but trouble. The girls that were older than me, 6-10 years, were always better to be with. More grown up, but still not fully mature in the head.
    Someone said it somewhere in the thread about the black/white thing. I can confirm that. That would come up with nearly every girl. Girl’s that people wouldn’t consider as being “black,” would say they were. They would talk about the famous Brazilians being white and things along those lines.
    Anyway, it is true, at least in my experience…If the girl is darker, she will like a Gringo for lighter skin. The majority of Brazilian, Colombian, Puerto Rican, Mexican, and anything similar go crazy over blue eyes. Like any girl, they want financial security, a Gringo has money, even if they don’t. Many want the papers.
    My wife saw me out and noticed my eyes. She would go back to the place she saw me to see if I’d be there. Then one night, she happened to go out with her friend and another girl that I was friends with and meeting. The rest was history after she questioned them to see if either were dating me and so on. Don’t under estimate blue eyes. They are deadly! She also says Americans that had families come to America are better, cause they don’t treat them like they are stupid if their English is not correct and so on. Part of my family is from Italy and the other side Irish. Thank god I didn’t get the Irish curse. I don’t think the blue eyes would help that for long.
  • #257734

    agri2001
    Participant

    If the blue eyes are the trick, I am getting some blue tinted contact lenses to wear.

  • #257735

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=GMangs]She also says Americans that had families come to America are better, cause they don’t treat them like they are stupid if their English is not correct and so on.[/QUOTE]
    Most Americans do not judge a person as ignorant if their English is not perfect. Most Americans can only speak one language so they are actually impressed if somebody can speak more than one language.
    However, if they are trying to communicate with somebody but feel that the other person’s lack of ability in English is preventing understanding, this can cause frustration, but that does not mean that they think the other person is stupid.

  • #257737

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=GMangs]

    Most of the Brazilian girls I dated that were younger or around my age, acted like little kids and nothing but trouble. The girls that were older than me, 6-10 years, were always better to be with. More grown up, but still not fully mature in the head.[/QUOTE]
    There are trade-offs in everything. While it may be true that an older woman will act more mature, that also has tradeoffs. Older women often, if looking for younger men, have control issues. Often they have been rejected by the men their age or older who would not put up with these control issues.
    Most older women I dated were self absorbed, and trying to deny the fact that they were getting old. most were downright dysfunctional in relationships.
    And here’s the kicker…if she is 10 years older, but still hot looking now, there WILL come a time when she is no longer hot looking, and you will still be, if you aren’t lazy. Most women in their late 30’s to 40s are asking for trouble when they only pursue men that are younger. It’s like candy..it tastes very sweet, but in the end it does not sustain you.
    Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore were the the poster child of the Cougar/Cub scene. Well now they are the realistic poster children of the cougar/cub scene because this is what normally happens. Most men, just like Ashton, wake up one day and realize that their hot older woman is no longer hot…and they leave.
  • #257738

    oneoone
    Member

    [QUOTE=RustyBuckeye][QUOTE=GMangs]She also says Americans that had families come to America are better, cause they don’t treat them like they are stupid if their English is not correct and so on.[/QUOTE]
    Most Americans do not judge a person as ignorant if their English is not perfect. Most Americans can only speak one language so they are actually impressed if somebody can speak more than one language.
    However, if they are trying to communicate with somebody but feel that the other person’s lack of ability in English is preventing understanding, this can cause frustration, but that does not mean that they think the other person is stupid.
    [/QUOTE]

    Not to her and some others. She has even said I’m not a real American, which I find funny. Maybe I’m not since I never liked dating “real” American girls. Unless they came from Italian families or another Latin type of background.
  • #257739

    oneoone
    Member

    [QUOTE=RustyBuckeye][QUOTE=GMangs]

    Most of the Brazilian girls I dated that were younger or around my age, acted like little kids and nothing but trouble. The girls that were older than me, 6-10 years, were always better to be with. More grown up, but still not fully mature in the head.[/QUOTE]
    There are trade-offs in everything. While it may be true that an older woman will act more mature, that also has tradeoffs. Older women often, if looking for younger men, have control issues. Often they have been rejected by the men their age or older who would not put up with these control issues.
    Most older women I dated were self absorbed, and trying to deny the fact that they were getting old. most were downright dysfunctional in relationships.
    And here’s the kicker…if she is 10 years older, but still hot looking now, there WILL come a time when she is no longer hot looking, and you will still be, if you aren’t lazy. Most women in their late 30’s to 40s are asking for trouble when they only pursue men that are younger. It’s like candy..it tastes very sweet, but in the end it does not sustain you.
    Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore were the the poster child of the Cougar/Cub scene. Well now they are the realistic poster children of the cougar/cub scene because this is what normally happens. Most men, just like Ashton, wake up one day and realize that their hot older woman is no longer hot…and they leave.

    [/QUOTE]

    Well the one that was ten years older wanted a Gringo baby. Wasn’t happening, I don’t care if she ate a bottle of birth control in front of me, I’m not a dumb Gringo. She moved back to Brazil and got knocked up and has really hit her decline. My wife takes good care of herself and we both like doing the same types of things, she’s about eight years older. I’m not worried about it though.
    Oh and for the other guy, do what you have to do. Blue eyes work. One of my buddies, black guy got blue contracts. Girls would always talk to him about his eyes.
  • #257742

    Steven
    Participant

    [QUOTE=RustyBuckeye]

    Most Americans do not judge a person as ignorant if their English is not perfect. Most Americans can only speak one language so they are actually impressed if somebody can speak more than one language.
    However, if they are trying to communicate with somebody but feel that the other person’s lack of ability in English is preventing understanding, this can cause frustration, but that does not mean that they think the other person is stupid.
    [/QUOTE]
    This is an interesting topic to me. There are many ways to look at the issue of “prejudice” relative to linguistic abilities.
    For example, nowadays in the U.S. most of the lawn care guys are Mexican and they all speak with an accent. Therefore, if you meet a guy who speaks with a Mexican accent do you automatically assume that he is a lawn care guy? Some people do.
    But, in fact, also nowadays people need to understand that if you don’t like people speaking with a foreign accent you better leave the U.S. because 15% of the population are immigrants, they are all hungry to advance the well-being of their families and you better get out of their way if you don’t like them because they are on the move and they don’t have time to waste with you and your prejudice.
    Take a walk down any street in New York City and it is a rarity to hear anyone speaking with an “American” accent. There is just not that much prejudice about this anymore.
  • #257747

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=GMangs][QUOTE=RustyBuckeye][QUOTE=GMangs]She also says Americans that had families come to America are better, cause they don’t treat them like they are stupid if their English is not correct and so on.[/QUOTE]
    Most Americans do not judge a person as ignorant if their English is not perfect. Most Americans can only speak one language so they are actually impressed if somebody can speak more than one language.
    However, if they are trying to communicate with somebody but feel that the other person’s lack of ability in English is preventing understanding, this can cause frustration, but that does not mean that they think the other person is stupid.
    [/QUOTE]

    Not to her and some others. She has even said I’m not a real American, which I find funny. Maybe I’m not since I never liked dating “real” American girls. Unless they came from Italian families or another Latin type of background.

    [/QUOTE]
    A person’s perceptions are not necessarily reality, though it is reality to that person. In other words, she may perceive that others think she is stupid because her English is not perfect. But it is rare that an American actually thinks a person who has become functional in a second language is stupid.
    She may, however, based on being Brazilian, believe that people think that she is stupid. After all, I have found that Brazilians are very hard on each other regarding their English abilities. I have talked with many people from other countries, and they said that the U.S. is actually the most open and friendly country towards other people, contrary to the perception that it is not. The media likes to focus on the few racist individuals in the country and act as if this is the norm, but it isn’t.
    The reality is that most Americans are embarrassed about their inability to speak two languages, and that is highlighted to them when they speak to an average person who is now at least somewhat functional in English.
    Also, her view on “real Americans” highlights how the average person in America is actually more open and tolerant. My economics professor has lived in many countries and in those countries, it was always made a point that he would never actually, for instance, German. This was in many different countries. He said America was the first country that he was in where people told him that he was as American as anybody else, even before he got his citizenship.
    So you would find that if your girl moved to the states with you, and I met the two of you, i would consider her an American, even if she is not yet approved to be a citizen, which contrasts with her perception that yu yourself, and actual citizen, are not actually a real American.

  • #257748

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=Steven][QUOTE=RustyBuckeye]

    Most Americans do not judge a person as ignorant if their English is not perfect. Most Americans can only speak one language so they are actually impressed if somebody can speak more than one language.
    However, if they are trying to communicate with somebody but feel that the other person’s lack of ability in English is preventing understanding, this can cause frustration, but that does not mean that they think the other person is stupid.
    [/QUOTE]
    This is an interesting topic to me. There are many ways to look at the issue of “prejudice” relative to linguistic abilities.
    For example, nowadays in the U.S. most of the lawn care guys are Mexican and they all speak with an accent. Therefore, if you meet a guy who speaks with a Mexican accent do you automatically assume that he is a lawn care guy? Some people do.
    But, in fact, also nowadays people need to understand that if you don’t like people speaking with a foreign accent you better leave the U.S. because 15% of the population are immigrants, they are all hungry to advance the well-being of their families and you better get out of their way if you don’t like them because they are on the move and they don’t have time to waste with you and your prejudice.
    Take a walk down any street in New York City and it is a rarity to hear anyone speaking with an “American” accent. There is just not that much prejudice about this anymore.

    [/QUOTE]
    I was not speaking about prejudice. I’m not sure how you read that into the “frustration” aspect. It has nothing to do with prejudice…it has to do with simple frustration at not being able to communicate.
    And the truth is, Americans typically love accents. That is a guaranteed fact.

  • #257750

    Steven
    Participant

    [QUOTE=RustyBuckeye][QUOTE=Steven][QUOTE=RustyBuckeye]

    Most Americans do not judge a person as ignorant if their English is not perfect. Most Americans can only speak one language so they are actually impressed if somebody can speak more than one language.
    However, if they are trying to communicate with somebody but feel that the other person’s lack of ability in English is preventing understanding, this can cause frustration, but that does not mean that they think the other person is stupid.
    [/QUOTE]
    This is an interesting topic to me. There are many ways to look at the issue of “prejudice” relative to linguistic abilities.
    For example, nowadays in the U.S. most of the lawn care guys are Mexican and they all speak with an accent. Therefore, if you meet a guy who speaks with a Mexican accent do you automatically assume that he is a lawn care guy? Some people do.
    But, in fact, also nowadays people need to understand that if you don’t like people speaking with a foreign accent you better leave the U.S. because 15% of the population are immigrants, they are all hungry to advance the well-being of their families and you better get out of their way if you don’t like them because they are on the move and they don’t have time to waste with you and your prejudice.
    Take a walk down any street in New York City and it is a rarity to hear anyone speaking with an “American” accent. There is just not that much prejudice about this anymore.

    [/QUOTE]
    I was not speaking about prejudice. I’m not sure how you read that into the “frustration” aspect. It has nothing to do with prejudice…it has to do with simple frustration at not being able to communicate.
    And the truth is, Americans typically love accents. That is a guaranteed fact.
    [/QUOTE]

    Sorry. Didn’t mean to give the impression of confusing frustration with prejudice. I’m actually agreeing with you on this topic but perhaps with a different spin on the conversation.
  • #257752

    [QUOTE=RustyBuckeye]And the truth is, Americans typically love accents.  That is a guaranteed fact.
    [/QUOTE]
    Especially if it’s suhhh-thernnn. Bless your hearts!

  • #257753

    lynchem
    Member

    Beaches be loco for white coco! 😉

  • #257757

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=Gringo.Floripa] [QUOTE=RustyBuckeye]And the truth is, Americans typically love accents. That is a guaranteed fact.
    [/QUOTE]
    Especially if it’s suhhh-thernnn. Bless your hearts!
    [/QUOTE]
    LOL, you do know that’s actually an insult, right? Southern ladies are the only women on Earth that can make you think they are being so sweet and congenial while insulting the crap out of you to your face. HAHALOL
    BTW, “Bless your heart” is loosely translated as, “You’re a moron/idiot.”

  • #257779

    oneoone
    Member

    I hear those Southern girls like guys from up north. Something about our accent, thinking we have money, and blue eyes. Kinda like Brazilian girls. Guess that makes me a gringo in my own country. Haven’t gotten to really test it out since I’ve been older. Usually don’t go south or mid west much, if at all. Except parts of PA and down around DE or Maryland. There was this girl from SC though several years back that moved here when we were growing up. I’ll just say it was a good time.

  • #257780

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=GMangs]

    Usually don’t go south or mid west much, if at all. Except parts of PA
    [/QUOTE]
    Do they teach geography in Jersey? ConfusedLOL
  • #257784

    hoganti
    Member

    for the most part Southerners think people from the north are obnoxious douchebags

  • #257787

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=hpeak13]for the most part Southerners think people from the north are obnoxious douchebags[/QUOTE]

    That’s when they actually “think”, which is rare.
  • #257788

    hoganti
    Member

    some of us are thinkers….a few

  • #257794

    jaenicoll
    Member

    [QUOTE=GMangs]I hear those Southern girls like guys from up north. Something about our accent, thinking we have money, and blue eyes. Kinda like Brazilian girls. Guess that makes me a gringo in my own country. Haven’t gotten to really test it out since I’ve been older. Usually don’t go south or mid west much, if at all. Except parts of PA and down around DE or Maryland. There was this girl from SC though several years back that moved here when we were growing up. I’ll just say it was a good time.[/QUOTE]

    I would hardly say when East Coasters are mentioned blue eyes come to mind. I would say the stereotype for the common man is more like Buddy the Cake dude. Short, Dark and loud. To be politically incorrect, ethnic people.
  • #257806

    oneoone
    Member

    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA][QUOTE=GMangs]

    Usually don’t go south or mid west much, if at all. Except parts of PA
    [/QUOTE]
    Do they teach geography in Jersey? ConfusedLOL

    [/QUOTE]

    I was saying that is about as far west as I have really traveled and don’t care to go much further. Hell South Jersey isn’t even Jersey.
  • #257811

    oneoone
    Member

    [QUOTE=nesne2][QUOTE=GMangs]I hear those Southern girls like guys from up north. Something about our accent, thinking we have money, and blue eyes. Kinda like Brazilian girls. Guess that makes me a gringo in my own country. Haven’t gotten to really test it out since I’ve been older. Usually don’t go south or mid west much, if at all. Except parts of PA and down around DE or Maryland. There was this girl from SC though several years back that moved here when we were growing up. I’ll just say it was a good time.[/QUOTE]

    I would hardly say when East Coasters are mentioned blue eyes come to mind. I would say the stereotype for the common man is more like Buddy the Cake dude. Short, Dark and loud. To be politically incorrect, ethnic people.

    [/QUOTE]

    Ok, I guess I’ll change it to Italian with blue eyes. I’m not dark, but I do tan pretty nice. Not the Jersey Shore fist pumping, spiked hair fake tan. When I was younger, I would look like a little black kid on the beach, not an Oompa Loompa.
    Buddy from work had a cake from him at his wedding a few years ago. It was good, but doubt it was worth the money he paid. His wife’s father said it’s a good thing he had two jobs, cause he’s going to need to. No thanks, not my kind of girl. Unless she laid gold eggs or had money trees some place.
  • #257813

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=GMangs]

    Hell South Jersey isn’t even Jersey.
    [/QUOTE]
    That is so funny. I remember the South Jersey people had distinct accents, almost “hickish”. It is amazing how close to New York S. Jersey is, yet so close to Kentucky!!!! LOL
  • #257822

    JohnBR
    Member

    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA][QUOTE=GMangs]

    Usually don’t go south or mid west much, if at all. Except parts of PA
    [/QUOTE]
    Do they teach geography in Jersey? ConfusedLOL

    [/QUOTE]
    LOL, I assume he meant to Pittsburgh because culturally they have more in common with the midwest than the East or Northeast.

  • #257825

    oneoone
    Member

    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA][QUOTE=GMangs]

    Hell South Jersey isn’t even Jersey.
    [/QUOTE]
    That is so funny. I remember the South Jersey people had distinct accents, almost “hickish”. It is amazing how close to New York S. Jersey is, yet so close to Kentucky!!!! LOL

    [/QUOTE]

    It’s like a mix of Deliverance and The Hills have Eyes down there. Could have it’s own movie, Pinelands Chainsaw Massacre.
  • #257841

    jaenicoll
    Member

    I imagine the scariest would be a mix of Deliverance, Hills have Eyes, and Jersey Shore. Maybe one of our resident graphic artist could help us all imagine that.

  • #257878

    oneoone
    Member

    You won’t see the Jersey Shore type down there. Those people aren’t even from Jersey and not even “Italian,” most of the guys with those blowouts are Greek, Portuguese, or Jewish kids. Snookie is adopted from Peru I think, one guy is Puerto Rican, another Jewish, and so on. I think only two of them were even from Jersey. The Situation lives close by me, he’s a douche. His brother or relative got pulled over and told the cop, “you know who my brother/whatever is?” Cop gave him a ticket. We don’t like those people. The show should have been Benny Shore. We don’t like those people around here. When I was in London a few years ago, everyone knew Jersey by Jersey Shore and Sopranos.

  • #257885

    jaenicoll
    Member

    Saying Snookie was “adopted from Peru” doesn’t mean much. Peru is a new world country, where people are from various ethnic groups. Puerto Rican or Eye-Tie, you guys are pretty much the same. Outside of the east coast you are all pretty much considered Mexican. Peace Brother…..

  • #257888

    oneoone
    Member

    If you say so. Many people from Peru are mixed with Chinese. Italian would be more in line with Spanish or Portuguese. Or by comparison to Puerto Rican, Argentina or Uruguay would be closer to Italian. Puerto Rican would be like saying UK is the same as German, Polish, and Russian, but I guess they could be grouped together based on pale white skin. As for the East/West coast things, we aren’t broke liberals who can’t run a state, but that would be for another thread. One with CA breaking off into the ocean…

  • #258539

    ShortbreadUK
    Member

    Why are foreign guys popular with the ladies here?

    Because they are a novelty.

  • #261591

    cgsbra
    Member

    Whites from 1 st world countries . The moment they arrive there forget about them. Keep them thinking they might be the chosen one and have fun with them. Do not, noooo ,never take them to europe. Then they turn as frosty and ubearable as american wifezillas

  • #267873

    Frankie
    Member

    You got the dream right, but your interpretation is way off. Just keep trying because the answer is just so close.

  • #267874

    Frankie
    Member

    Esprit, You must be an English major in college or teacher of sorts. But your being here gives you away. You could write great porn, but most people could not read it due to illiteracy issues. It is all about consciousness. Can you do the work.

  • #268162

    Anonymous

    How about foreign women? Are they popular with the Brazilian guys? This whole thread seems one sided and sexist. Its very narrow thinking to think that 100 % of foreign guys are interested in sex with a Brazilian woman and that Brazilian women are interested in a foreign guy’s money. The age of the conquistador is over. At least it should be. Geez, this forum needs more feminist voices.

  • #268163

    Anonymous

    Reading these comments is disgusting. Is Brazil really just another Thailand, Bangkok, for western, white, foreign guys? Really? And you guys treat it as normal? Clearly the age of gender and sexual equality hasn’t reached foreign guys in Brazil or the women they sleep with. Where is the justice? Prostitution is the fault of both parties, the prostitute and the paying customer. Both should be in jail.

  • #268165

    Ron
    Participant

    Thought you were serious for a while there Grantham, but as I read I realized that it was just your sarcastic humor………………………………… I hope.

  • #268167

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron] Thought you were serious for a while there Grantham, but as I read I realized that it was just your sarcastic humor………………………………… I hope.[/QUOTE]
    Captain Ron, I am serious. Why would I joke about this? At least where I lived in Curitiba, I didn’t know of the whole foreign guys-Brazilian women thing. I had read that that mostly happens in certain parts of Rio de Janeiro, but it wasn’t really talked about or common knowledge in Curitiba, or to anyone I spoke with. If it happens, it isn’t widely publicized, or it’s something that people know happens but don’t talk about. Nevertheless, it’s kind of… wrong. It just highlights the lack of any sexual equality or gender equality, and any sort of relationship doesn’t work out when both parties want something different from it. Foreign guys paying child support for children they have with Brazilian women? How is that right? Men can’t just go around spreading their seed with a bunch of women, and having lord knows how many children by the women they ejaculated into. It’s disgusting, wrong, and should be addressed.

  • #268170

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Grantham] [QUOTE=Captain Ron] Thought you were serious for a while there Grantham, but as I read I realized that it was just your sarcastic humor………………………………… I hope.[/QUOTE]
    Captain Ron, I am serious. Why would I joke about this? At least where I lived in Curitiba, I didn’t know of the whole foreign guys-Brazilian women thing. I had read that that mostly happens in certain parts of Rio de Janeiro, but it wasn’t really talked about or common knowledge in Curitiba, or to anyone I spoke with. If it happens, it isn’t widely publicized, or it’s something that people know happens but don’t talk about. Nevertheless, it’s kind of… wrong. It just highlights the lack of any sexual equality or gender equality, and any sort of relationship doesn’t work out when both parties want something different from it. Foreign guys paying child support for children they have with Brazilian women? How is that right? Men can’t just go around spreading their seed with a bunch of women, and having lord knows how many children by the women they ejaculated into. It’s disgusting, wrong, and should be addressed. [/QUOTE]

    It soundslike you could be the postulant who seems most qualified to address this issue; togo forth and evangelise while righting the wrongs of the fornicator and preventingexudation of sinful seed. Naturally, this only applies to the heterosexual communityand has nothing to do with vagina envy.

    Wink

    Esprit2014-07-10 20:17:33

  • #268173

    Ron
    Participant

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/why-the-world-cup-is-gods-gift-to-single-women-in-brazil/story-fnkjl6g2-1226985667203

    From the ‘horse’s mouth’, Grantham.

    Why the World Cup is √¢‚ǨÀúGod’s gift’ to single women in Brazil

  • #268176

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron] http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/why-the-world-cup-is-gods-gift-to-single-women-in-brazil/story-fnkjl6g2-1226985667203

    From the ‘horse’s mouth’, Grantham.
    <h1 =”ing” style=”-sizing: border-; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px 25px; border: 0px; font-family: ‘Unit Slab Pro Bold’, ‘Times New Roman’, Times, serif; font-weight: 400; line-height: 43px; font-size: 41px; vertical-align: middle; display: table-cell; width: 984px; height: 130px; text-align: center; color: rgb41, 41, 41;”>Why the World Cup is √¢‚ǨÀúGod’s gift’ to single women in Brazil</h1>

    [/QUOTE]
    Whatever. I’ll leave heterosexuals to their idiocy. I’ve tried understanding the dynamics, and have always ended up confused, disillusioned, and disgusted. I’ll be at the bar. The gay bar.

  • #268177

    graham
    Participant

    The only thing that we really need to understand is that we don’t have control over the thoughts, feelings or actions of others. Simple. We can judge, but the importance of this opinion is simply solace to ourselves and those with whom we agree. Still, everyone is free to choose to actively promote their differences as a point of disagreement or intolerance.

    “We are our choices.” Sartre
  • #268178

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Grads]The only thing that we really need to understand is that we don’t have control over the thoughts, feelings or actions of others. Simple. We can judge, but the importance of this opinion is simply solace to ourselves and those with whom we agree. Still, everyone is free to choose to actively promote their differences as a point of disagreement or intolerance.

    “We are our choices.” Sartre

    [/QUOTE]

    Grads, you have just describedcultural Marxism perfectly; the political correctness that is the undoing of acceptedand unbiased standards of behaviour and thinking in favour the kittens in a cupmediocrity that promotes the tolerance of radical conduct. It is impossible to accommodateall of the people all of the time especially all of those such as Grantham; a sexuallydisordered individual who regards the sex act that brought him into this worldas disgusting.

  • #268183

    graham
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=Grads]The only thing that we really need to understand is that we don’t have control over the thoughts, feelings or actions of others. Simple. We can judge, but the importance of this opinion is simply solace to ourselves and those with whom we agree. Still, everyone is free to choose to actively promote their differences as a point of disagreement or intolerance.

    “We are our choices.” Sartre

    [/QUOTE]

    Grads, you have just describedcultural Marxism perfectly; the political correctness that is the undoing of acceptedand unbiased standards of behaviour and thinking in favour the kittens in a cupmediocrity that promotes the tolerance of radical conduct. It is impossible to accommodateall of the people all of the time especially all of those such as Grantham; a sexuallydisordered individual who regards the sex act that brought him into this worldas disgusting.

    [/QUOTE]

    1) Wow!

    2) And then, so what?

  • #268184

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Grads][QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=Grads]The only thing that we really need to understand is that we don’t have control over the thoughts, feelings or actions of others. Simple. We can judge, but the importance of this opinion is simply solace to ourselves and those with whom we agree. Still, everyone is free to choose to actively promote their differences as a point of disagreement or intolerance.

    “We are our choices.” Sartre

    [/QUOTE]

    Grads, you have just describedcultural Marxism perfectly; the political correctness that is the undoing of acceptedand unbiased standards of behaviour and thinking in favour the kittens in a cupmediocrity that promotes the tolerance of radical conduct. It is impossible to accommodateall of the people all of the time especially all of those such as Grantham; a sexuallydisordered individual who regards the sex act that brought him into this worldas disgusting.

    [/QUOTE]

    1) Wow!

    2) And then, so what?

    [/QUOTE]

    So what? Goingbeyond the context of the farcical promiscuity described by Grantham, who, ifhe can ever actually muster the courage to engage in fellatio with a lustysailor, would see him finally engaging with one of the most vividly promiscuousgroups; that of the male homosexual:

    Thesimplicity of the understanding you describe can, outside of the sexual arena, offerentitlement to the mentally inept or the fanatic to hold opinions that promote andincite actions that can be at odds with the very foundation of civilisedsociety. I would cite radical Christianity and Islam by way of examples of detrimentalthoughts, feelings and actions.

    Certainlythere is a scale by which we can afford leniency with some minor aspects ofdifferences and intolerance, however we do, of necessity and of retaining freedoms,need to exercise certain control of thoughts, feelings and actions througheducation, examples of behaviour and, in the final resort, the enforcement of law& order. If there is solace to be found it is in the knowledge that suchhas been the result in the evolution of civilised society, confirming that weare our choices enshrined by majority; within which an increasingly enlightenedminority are unafraid to express opinion; the anti-political-correct brigade.

  • #268186

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Esprit] [QUOTE=Grads][QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=Grads]The only thing that we really need to understand is that we don’t have control over the thoughts, feelings or actions of others. Simple. We can judge, but the importance of this opinion is simply solace to ourselves and those with whom we agree. Still, everyone is free to choose to actively promote their differences as a point of disagreement or intolerance.

    “We are our choices.” Sartre

    [/QUOTE]

    <p =”msonormal”=”” style=”margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 17.05pt; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;”><span lang=”EN-AU” style=”font-size:9.0pt;font-family: “Verdana”,”sans-serif”;mso-fareast-font-family:”Times New Roman”;mso-bidi-font-family: “Times New Roman”;mso-ansi-:EN-AU”>Grads, you have just described
    cultural Marxism perfectly; the political correctness that is the undoing of accepted
    and unbiased standards of behaviour and thinking in favour the kittens in a cup
    mediocrity that promotes the tolerance of radical conduct. It is impossible to accommodate
    all of the people all of the time especially all of those such as Grantham; a sexually
    disordered individual who regards the sex act that brought him into this world
    as disgusting. √Ǭ†√Ǭ†<o:p></o:p></span><p =”msonormal”=”” style=”margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 17.05pt; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;”><span style=”line-height: 1.4;”>[/QUOTE]</span><p =”msonormal”=”” style=”margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 17.05pt; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;”><span style=”line-height: 1.4;”>1) Wow!</span><p =”msonormal”=”” style=”margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: 17.05pt; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;”><span style=”line-height: 1.4;”>2) And then, so what?</span>

    [/QUOTE]

    <p =”Msonormal”><span style=”font-size: 9pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;”>So what? Going
    beyond the context of the farcical promiscuity described by Grantham, who, if
    he can ever actually muster the courage to engage in fellatio with a lusty
    sailor, would see him finally engaging with one of the most vividly promiscuous
    groups; that of the male homosexual: <o:p></o:p></span>
    <p =”Msonormal”><span style=”font-size: 9pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;”>The
    simplicity of the understanding you describe can, outside of the sexual arena, offer
    entitlement to the mentally inept or the fanatic to hold opinions that promote and
    incite actions that can be at odds with the very foundation of civilised
    society. I would cite radical Christianity and Islam by way of examples of detrimental
    thoughts, feelings and actions. <o:p></o:p></span>
    <p =”Msonormal”><span style=”font-size: 9pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;”>Certainly
    there is a scale by which we can afford leniency with some minor aspects of
    differences and intolerance, however we do, of necessity and of retaining freedoms,
    need to exercise certain control of thoughts, feelings and actions through
    education, examples of behaviour and, in the final resort, the enforcement of law
    & order. If there is solace to be found it is in the knowledge that such
    has been the result in the evolution of civilised society, confirming that we
    are our choices enshrined by majority; within which an increasingly enlightened
    minority are unafraid to express opinion; the anti-political-correct brigade. √Ǭ†<o:p></o:p></span><p =”Msonormal”><span style=”font-size: 9pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; -: initial; -attachment: initial; -size: initial; -origin: initial; -clip: initial; -: initial; -repeat: initial;”>
    </span>

    [/QUOTE]
    Esprit,
    Politically correct, when used with common sense, is designed to treat those who have been mistreated in the past, with the dignity and respect with which we treated, other, more privileged groups. Politically correct means you say African American, not the N word. It means you say gay or homosexual, not fag. It means you say disabled, not crippled. It means you say Native American, American Indian, First Nations, etc. not Reds or redskins, or Injun.
    Political correctness is taken to an extreme, though, I recognize that. Esprit, look to yourself before you go dreaming about a perfect 1950’s world that never existed. You advocate that we reappropriate the 1950’s in 2014, when the 1960’s broke with a pattern that had started in 1929, and I would take the 60’s over the 50’s ANY DAY. Women need to be in politics, they need to be doing what suits them. They need to be treated with respect, and equality. So do homosexuals. Your kind is on the way out, Esprit, soon we will look at your fossils in a museum, and wonder why such horrible specimens of human being came to be about, and how they were tolerated, much less how they held political influence in our world.
    You’re from England, correct? Do you not know that the entire city of London exists? Oscar Wilde, Boy George, David Bowie, George Michael, they’re all BRITISH!! The right kinds of profound change within societies have always been initiated by the liberal revolutionaries, or at least their ideas. Don’t conflate Marx with Russia. Marx was enlightened, Russia not. In 2014, read Piketty. The Marxist tradition is one in which everyone wins, except dirty capitalists of course. Clean ones can continue their business.

  • #268187

    graham
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=Grads][QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=Grads]The only thing that we really need to understand is that we don’t have control over the thoughts, feelings or actions of others. Simple. We can judge, but the importance of this opinion is simply solace to ourselves and those with whom we agree. Still, everyone is free to choose to actively promote their differences as a point of disagreement or intolerance.

    “We are our choices.” Sartre

    [/QUOTE]

    Grads, you have just describedcultural Marxism perfectly; the political correctness that is the undoing of acceptedand unbiased standards of behaviour and thinking in favour the kittens in a cupmediocrity that promotes the tolerance of radical conduct. It is impossible to accommodateall of the people all of the time especially all of those such as Grantham; a sexuallydisordered individual who regards the sex act that brought him into this worldas disgusting.

    [/QUOTE]

    1) Wow!

    2) And then, so what?

    [/QUOTE]

    So what? Goingbeyond the context of the farcical promiscuity described by Grantham, who, ifhe can ever actually muster the courage to engage in fellatio with a lustysailor, would see him finally engaging with one of the most vividly promiscuousgroups; that of the male homosexual:

    Thesimplicity of the understanding you describe can, outside of the sexual arena, offerentitlement to the mentally inept or the fanatic to hold opinions that promote andincite actions that can be at odds with the very foundation of civilisedsociety. I would cite radical Christianity and Islam by way of examples of detrimentalthoughts, feelings and actions.

    Certainlythere is a scale by which we can afford leniency with some minor aspects ofdifferences and intolerance, however we do, of necessity and of retaining freedoms,need to exercise certain control of thoughts, feelings and actions througheducation, examples of behaviour and, in the final resort, the enforcement of law& order. If there is solace to be found it is in the knowledge that suchhas been the result in the evolution of civilised society, confirming that weare our choices enshrined by majority; within which an increasingly enlightenedminority are unafraid to express opinion; the anti-political-correct brigade.

    [/QUOTE]

    Esprit: “So what? Going beyond the context of the farcical promiscuity described by Grantham, who, if he can ever actually muster the courage to engage in fellatio with a lusty sailor, would see him finally engaging with one of the most vividly promiscuous groups; that of the male homosexual:”

    …This preface, in itself, is actually promiscuous and farcical, and you intend (I guess) to amuse as well as introduce a serious point. Couched in your vivid terms, you foist no double standard, no?

    Esprit: “The simplicity of the understanding you describe can, outside of the sexual arena, offer entitlement to the mentally inept or the fanatic to hold opinions that promote and incite actions that can be at odds with the very foundation of civilised society. I would cite radical Christianity and Islam by way of examples of detrimental thoughts, feelings and actions”.

    √¢‚Ǩ¬¶Yes, it seems to offer entitlement to extremes, but it really doesn’t. Bear in mind that if anything, e.g. thought, desire, ideology, addiction, love, hate, religion, Rhetoric, etc. – anything in life-, is taken to the extreme, then things will naturally become detrimentally kinky then fail. The force of the “foundations of civilized society,” and further, some innate survival instinct of our species, will always act as a natural counter weight. You are one example of outspoken concerns and one unique voice shouting from the shrine of innumerable mass normalcy. Your following statement seems to refer by noting freedom vs order.

    Esprit: “Certainly there is a scale by which we can afford leniency with some minor aspects of differences and intolerance, however we do, of necessity and of retaining freedoms, need to exercise certain control of thoughts, feelings and actions through education, examples of behaviour and, in the final resort, the enforcement of law & order. If there is solace to be found it is in the knowledge that such has been the result in the evolution of civilised society, confirming that we are our choices enshrined by majority; within which an increasingly enlightened minority are unafraid to express opinion; the anti-political-correct brigade.”

    √¢‚Ǩ¬¶Though civilization requires the enforcement of order (and the operative extent of enforced order is always being adjusted to suit the time and mores of society), thank goodness that there is no absolutely infallable human machination gauging the complex scale of human behavior. Other than this, I wouldn’t qualify much more of your last statement, except I would have added a verb for clarity after the last semicolon.

  • #268189

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Grads]

    Esprit: “So what? Going beyond the context of the farcical promiscuity described by Grantham, who, if he can ever actually muster the courage to engage in fellatio with a lusty sailor, would see him finally engaging with one of the most vividly promiscuous groups; that of the male homosexual:”

    …This preface, in itself, is actually promiscuous and farcical, and you intend (I guess) to amuse as well as introduce a serious point. Couched in your vivid terms, you foist no double standard, no?

    Esprit: “The simplicity of the understanding you describe can, outside of the sexual arena, offer entitlement to the mentally inept or the fanatic to hold opinions that promote and incite actions that can be at odds with the very foundation of civilised society. I would cite radical Christianity and Islam by way of examples of detrimental thoughts, feelings and actions”.

    √¢‚Ǩ¬¶Yes, it seems to offer entitlement to extremes, but it really doesn’t. Bear in mind that if anything, e.g. thought, desire, ideology, addiction, love, hate, religion, Rhetoric, etc. – anything in life-, is taken to the extreme, then things will naturally become detrimentally kinky then fail. The force of the “foundations of civilized society,” and further, some innate survival instinct of our species, will always act as a natural counter weight. You are one example of outspoken concerns and one unique voice shouting from the shrine of innumerable mass normalcy. Your following statement seems to refer by noting freedom vs order.

    Esprit: “Certainly there is a scale by which we can afford leniency with some minor aspects of differences and intolerance, however we do, of necessity and of retaining freedoms, need to exercise certain control of thoughts, feelings and actions through education, examples of behaviour and, in the final resort, the enforcement of law & order. If there is solace to be found it is in the knowledge that such has been the result in the evolution of civilised society, confirming that we are our choices enshrined by majority; within which an increasingly enlightened minority are unafraid to express opinion; the anti-political-correct brigade.”

    √¢‚Ǩ¬¶Though civilization requires the enforcement of order (and the operative extent of enforced order is always being adjusted to suit the time and mores of society), thank goodness that there is no absolutely infallable human machination gauging the complex scale of human behavior. Other than this, I wouldn’t qualify much more of your last statement, except I would have added a verb for clarity after the last semicolon.

    [/QUOTE]

    You positthe view that we don’t have control over the thoughts, feelings or actions ofothers and, while accepting my point that it seems to offer entitlement toextremes, this suggest that this shouldn’t merit any cause for concern because,as you put it, when things are taken to the extreme, then those things willnaturally become detrimentally kinky and fail. Eh, yes; lazy but effective. Thisis an unsympathetic and unapologetic offering having no liability or evenconsideration for the damages caused in the intervening period and it is thesedamages that are of chief concern to society.

    To pursuethis trial and error, this self-correction philosophy, is to not only condemnsociety as a whole to brooding introspection and perpetuating resentments whilesuffering the vagaries of time and fashion during the years in the √¢‚ǨÀúpre-kinky’ periods.Is it not beyond the wit of Man to aspire above the lowest pseudo morality or votecatching commonality; to behave like mature adults thereby avoiding the footshuffling embarrassment of this insidious political correctness when everything,often including truth, can cause offence?

  • #268201

    Ron
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=Grads]

    Esprit: “So what? Going beyond the context of the farcical promiscuity described by Grantham, who, if he can ever actually muster the courage to engage in fellatio with a lusty sailor,……………………………………….

    [/QUOTE]

    You just leave us lusty sailors out of this………….. pick on firemen or leather clothed motorcycle cops instead. LOL
  • #268203

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron][QUOTE=Esprit][QUOTE=Grads]

    Esprit: “So what? Going beyond the context of the farcical promiscuity described by Grantham, who, if he can ever actually muster the courage to engage in fellatio with a lusty sailor,……………………………………….

    [/QUOTE]

    You just leave us lusty sailors out of this………….. pick on firemen or leather clothed motorcycle cops instead. LOL

    [/QUOTE]

    Well Capt. Ihad always thought that the sailor thing was a bit of a myth until I was privyto a conversation between an old seadog who happened to be the father-in-law ofa friend of mine and who obviously held the old boy in high regard if notaffection. It was getting pretty late in the evening during a wedding receptionwhere the grog had been free-flowing and, as with most weddings, things conjugaland matters related thereto conspired to jokingly resurrect the old chestnutabout a sailor’s girl in every port. Almost immediately it was as if the cloakof time unveiled old memories and the old boy relaxed into a thousand yard waterystare.

    It seemedlike an age, yet his inebriated pause couldn’t have lasted more than half adozen seconds before he spoke. “Y’know lads.” And he snapped a conspiratorial glanceto each of us and drew us closer before confiding his hitherto closeted secret,”It wasn’t always the lassies that teased a man’s desperation when we put toshore far from home port√¢‚Ǩ¬¶and even further from God and conscience.”

    Iimmediately sensed my friend’s discomfiture as he searched my face but foundnothing but vaguely concealed levity. I think we both knew that nothing short ofdivine intervention would stop the outpouring of a confession that had possiblywaited many long years to be shared with men who could understand the humancondition. “Necks like swans.” He said, and with half-closed eyes he reached backand forward as if stroking a tall dog in front of him. “Those boys had neckslike swans√¢‚Ǩ¬¶and bodies that made no difference.”

  • #268204

    Fernandez
    Member

    This might be relevant to the discussion at hand although its claims do seem a bit over the top.
    http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2794/rum-sodomy-and-the-lash

  • #268205

    graham
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Esprit]…He said, and with half-closed eyes he reached backand forward as if stroking a tall dog in front of him. “Those boys had neckslike swans√¢‚Ǩ¬¶and bodies that made no difference.”
    [/QUOTE]

    …and the “very foundation of civilised society” shuttered to its core.
  • #268206

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=ferrar]This might be relevant to the discussion at hand although its claims do seem a bit over the top.
    http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2794/rum-sodomy-and-the-lash
    [/QUOTE]

    Arguably itwas the somewhat justifiable arrogance induced by having one of history’slargest empires, holding sway over a quarter of the global population, that entitledthe British to create imaginative and pragmatic occupations for those willing toearn a shilling despite their having no greater skills other than being acarbon life-form with a pulse. I shall now add the term, peg boy to thehitherto lone and unfortunate, jam boy in the list of unfortunate professionscreated by the British for their now, hopefully, obsolete pleasures andcomfort.

  • #268214

    Anonymous

    The very foundation of civilised society is not the king, david cameron, tony blair, the church, the pope, the bishop of canterbury, the queen, or marriage. And I only associate homosexually with other OUT gay men. I ain’t anyone’s sex bitch or rent boy.

  • #268215

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Grantham]The very foundation of civilised society is not the king, david cameron, tony blair, the church, the pope, the bishop of canterbury, the queen, or marriage. And I only associate homosexually with other OUT gay men. I ain’t anyone’s sex bitch or rent boy. [/QUOTE]

    Well ofcourse you’re not. Just keep sitting on that stool in readiness and in the fondhope that the right fella will come along; few, even priests, remain a virginforever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPppZQhyC9o

  • #268303

    Anonymous

    Esprit, why don’t you just admit it openly on this forum: You don’t like homosexuals, especially, I’m assuming, homosexual men. Fine. Whatever. You don’t have to be one. Have you ever even tried it out? The shame in being gay, in being fluid with your sexuality and sexual orientation, is gradually dying out. Wouldn’t you like, while you’re still alive, to be an active participant in pushing the boundaries, in entering the 21st century fully? Just one time, just try it. You might like it. It’s like trying new food. You can only know what it tastes like until you take a bite, even a small one. There, pronto. Only one bite, no one is forcing you to take another bite. You’ve tried it, so you can put the mystery behind you. Once you’ve tried it there’s no going back, but at least you can move forward with the knowledge that you tried it, and let it be in your past. The stigma is fading away. It’s the 21st century, things are progressing faster than they have in a long time. But that’s just my advice, whether you listen, or take it, is your decision. It’s entirely up to you.
    But I will say this. Being a homophobe, an actively gay-bashing bigot, which you have been more than once on this forum, is unacceptable. You can participate in the new culture without shame, because the past, when homosexuality was persecuted, is dying out. And that starts with individual people. When a person decides to change, then they are actively changing society, starting with themselves, one person at a time. I’m glad that we don’t live in the past anymore. I’m glad that gay people aren’t shamelessly insulted by others with the word fag. I’m glad, because frankly, that society is scary. It’s dark. It’s unfair on the very surface, and shamelessly unfair I might add. And let’s leave those things in the past, because that’s where they belong. They don’t belong among us today, not anymore.
    You’re not a psychologist, an anthropologist, a legal scholar, a sociologist, or a cultural scholar. So don’t label me as a dangerous radical that needs to be shut up, locked up, executed, or worse. Don’t censor me. And don’t proclaim to know that there is any “balance” in society that I’m disturbing. Maybe you’re disturbing the balance in society, by being a patriarch. You would have no problem having a more patriarchal society than we already have. Whatever, go on, your kind is dying out anyway. Grantham2014-07-18 12:06:40

  • #268311

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Grantham]Esprit, why don’t you just admit it openly on this forum: You don’t like homosexuals, especially, I’m assuming, homosexual men. Fine. Whatever. You don’t have to be one. Have you ever even tried it out? The shame in being gay, in being fluid with your sexuality and sexual orientation, is gradually dying out. Wouldn’t you like, while you’re still alive, to be an active participant in pushing the boundaries, in entering the 21st century fully? Just one time, just try it. You might like it. It’s like trying new food. You can only know what it tastes like until you take a bite, even a small one. There, pronto. Only one bite, no one is forcing you to take another bite. You’ve tried it, so you can put the mystery behind you. Once you’ve tried it there’s no going back, but at least you can move forward with the knowledge that you tried it, and let it be in your past. The stigma is fading away. It’s the 21st century, things are progressing faster than they have in a long time. But that’s just my advice, whether you listen, or take it, is your decision. It’s entirely up to you.
    But I will say this. Being a homophobe, an actively gay-bashing bigot, which you have been more than once on this forum, is unacceptable. You can participate in the new culture without shame, because the past, when homosexuality was persecuted, is dying out. And that starts with individual people. When a person decides to change, then they are actively changing society, starting with themselves, one person at a time. I’m glad that we don’t live in the past anymore. I’m glad that gay people aren’t shamelessly insulted by others with the word fag. I’m glad, because frankly, that society is scary. It’s dark. It’s unfair on the very surface, and shamelessly unfair I might add. And let’s leave those things in the past, because that’s where they belong. They don’t belong among us today, not anymore.
    You’re not a psychologist, an anthropologist, a legal scholar, a sociologist, or a cultural scholar. So don’t label me as a dangerous radical that needs to be shut up, locked up, executed, or worse. Don’t censor me. And don’t proclaim to know that there is any “balance” in society that I’m disturbing. Maybe you’re disturbing the balance in society, by being a patriarch. You would have no problem having a more patriarchal society than we already have. Whatever, go on, your kind is dying out anyway. [/QUOTE]

    Grantham, inpursuing this attempt at my character assassination and defamation you assumethe mantle of a paranoid anti- homophone vigilante in a guise that representseverything that both homosexuals and heterosexuals alike despise in equalmeasure: an angry and frustrated self-hating gay virgin with a victim complex exacerbatedby low intelligence and an ignorant disposition.

  • #268322

    Anonymous

    Whoa, let’s back up here. If anyone has attempted character assassination, it’s been you against me. You’ve already assassinated your own character, I’m afraid. Paranoid anti-homophone vigilante? Oh jeez, I didn’t know I was a grammar militarist! First of all, homosexuals don’t hate “gay virgins”. And how would you know anyways? I thought you hated homosexuals, lol. Heterosexuals don’t hate them either, many of them just hate gays, period. And I’m not a virgin to gay sex, lol. Not even to straight sex. Yes, I’m a virgin to sex with a transsexual, but let’s not go there. Anyways, how would you know I’m a virgin or not? Why would you care? You’re just assuming based on an anonymous internet personality that I come off as on this forum, all you know about me is what I choose to disclose on this forum, which may or may not be true. I’m not angry, frustrated, or self-hating. There are times, moments, when I feel angry, I feel frustrated, but those terms do not define my character. I wear my heart on my sleeve. If all I come across as on this forum is angry, then you are bound to believe, by default, that I’m an angry person, period. There are moments when I am angry, when I feel angry, but I think my moods are pretty “normal”, if that even exists. I can point you to truly “angry” people, like white southern men, of the patriarchal, southern baptist, racist, homophobe, old, Strom Thurmond type. Those are truly “angry” people. Also angry are the members of the Westboro Baptist Church. And I do not have any kind of irrational victim complex, exacerbated by low intelligence and an ignorant disposition. Again, I can point you to the Teabaggers, ahem, Tea Partiers rampant in some districts of the United States. Victim complex, low intelligence, and ignorant disposition characterizes pretty much all of them. Google them.

  • #268324

    Ron
    Participant

    And, as the topic takes a slight detour to the left, it is refreshing to note how objective our recent, main contributors have managed to stay.

    Heaven help us if it should turn even slightly personal.
    Quite entertaining – keep it up guys. (Oooops, that term probably isn’t politically correct.)
    By the way, in the interests of economy – by inverting the stool one can keep 4 boys primed and ready. (Read it in a book.)

    Captain Ron2014-07-19 17:07:10

  • #268326

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron]And, as the topic takes a slight detour to the left, it is refreshing to note how objective our recent, main contributors have managed to stay.

    Heaven help us if it should turn even slightly personal.
    Quite entertaining – keep it up guys. (Oooops, that term probably isn’t politically correct.)
    By the way, in the interests of economy – by inverting the stool one can keep 4 boys primed and ready. (Read it in a book.)

    [/QUOTE]

    Brilliant! That’s the sort of imaginative thinking and innovation that madeHenry Ford a great industrialist.
  • #268332

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Captain Ron] And, as the topic takes a slight detour to the left, it is refreshing to note how objective our recent, main contributors have managed to stay.

    Heaven help us if it should turn even slightly personal.
    Quite entertaining – keep it up guys. (Oooops, that term probably isn’t politically correct.)√Ǭ†
    By the way, in the interests of economy – by inverting the stool one can keep 4 boys primed and ready. (Read it in a book.)

    [/QUOTE]
    ?? What?
    And by “detour to the left”, do you mean the ideological/political Left, as opposed to the political Right? Or do you mean a general change of course, off the main direction of this thread?

  • #21427

    Chris_A
    Member
  • #281083

    tamte
    Participant

    Just testing, can’t post anywhere else yet

    • #281632

      farbewerk
      Keymaster

      tamte, Were you able to get posting going?

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