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  • #266499

    Anonymous

    Looking for Software Engineering jobs in Brazil, specifically in the Sao Paolo region.

    I am based in the US and I have 3yrs experience at the top level for a multinational in TDD,BDD practices.
    I have little or no portuguese and therefore I don’t know if I am even attractive to an employer there.
    A visa shouldn’t be a problem as I have a Brazilian national child
    I would probably take a huge hit salary wise unless I got a job with someone like Petrobras ?
    Fellow gringoes to summarize,
    What job sites are there in brazil for dev/eng roles ?
    What companies should I target ?
    Any other advice engineers could offer ?
  • #266500

    hoganti
    Member

    I have little or no portuguese and therefore I don’t know if I am even attractive to an employer there.

    I have little or no portuguese and therefore I don’t know if I am even attractive to an employer there.

    that’s gonna make it very very very very very difficult. From the company’s viewpoint….Why you vs a Brazilian that speaks the language already?
  • #266508

    hoganti
    Member

    No need to speak Portuguese


    lol, ok.

    No need to speak Portuguese
  • #266516

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    Hahahaha.
    What dimension do you come from?

  • #266529

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    Hmm, well, im a software engineer and have bem working in that field for the last 15 years. And there is almost no way to get a job without Portuguese skills. And we loose all our excellent people to the US and Germany among others.

  • #266534

    Suiço
    Member

    As mentioned it will be almost impossible to land a job here if you don’t have a handle on the language and/or a visa already sorted out. You really have to bring a lot to the table meaning you need to have skills/references/global contacts who are aware that you are a valuable asset.
    My advice is to land a job back in the US with a firm that has connections/offices in Brazil and request a transfer. If you’re good at what you do and prefer working in Brazil I imagine you’ll have no problems making it happen with your employer because most normal people don’t like living down here.
    Good luck.

  • #266535

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=shinrai]

    …because most normal people don’t like living down here.
    Good luck.
    [/QUOTE]
    LOLLOLLOLClap
  • #266544

    Suiço
    Member

    [QUOTE=jennerjcruz] most IT jobs don’t require carteira de trabalho.[/QUOTE]
    Really? News to me. How does one get around the carteira de trabalho?
    I thought everybody who works here with a vitem V visa needs to have this and their local employer must pay all the associated taxes etc.
    Am I wrong?

  • #266553

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=frank4000][QUOTE=sven]Hmm, well, im a software engineer and have bem working in that field for the last 15 years. And there is almost no way to get a job without Portuguese skills. And we loose all our excellent people to the US and Germany among others.[/QUOTE]

    Imagine here I am thinking that you were a lawyer all this time.

    [/QUOTE]

    dutch lawyer, software engineer and now also brazilian lawyer
  • #266554

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=shinrai][QUOTE=jennerjcruz] most IT jobs don’t require carteira de trabalho.[/QUOTE]
    Really? News to me. How does one get around the carteira de trabalho?
    I thought everybody who works here with a vitem V visa needs to have this and their local employer must pay all the associated taxes etc.
    Am I wrong?
    [/QUOTE]

    No.
  • #266555

    Anonymous

    If asoftware engineer took Viagra would he then become a hardware engineer? And ifso, how long could he maintain that career path before either taking anotherViagra or consulting a doctor?

  • #266559

    Fernandez
    Member

    [QUOTE=frank4000][QUOTE=sven]Hmm, well, im a software engineer and have bem working in that field for the last 15 years. And there is almost no way to get a job without Portuguese skills. And we loose all our excellent people to the US and Germany among others.[/QUOTE]

    Imagine here I am thinking that you were a lawyer all this time.

    [/QUOTE]
    No, he’s a newbie. From what I’ve seen he’s been upfront on this. I’ve found his theoretical posts to be phrased colorfully with high entertainment value. And that’s a compliment.
    ferrar2014-05-13 18:19:40

  • #266561

    Fernandez
    Member

    [QUOTE=Esprit] And ifso, how long could he maintain that career path?>[/QUOTE]
    I’m not sure, but doubt the path would be linear.

  • #266575

    Finrudd
    Participant

    [QUOTE=jennerjcruz]I repeat what I said. By the time your paperwork is done, you’ll already be able to speak some Portuguese. And most IT jobs don’t require carteira de trabalho.[/QUOTE]

    Do you mean that most IT jobs are not CLT, and are in fact PJ roles (contractor)? If so, I would agree with that from what I have seen here, especially in any project type roles of a pre-determined time-frame.
  • #266581

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=jennerjcruz] Exactly. Most well paying IT jobs are contractor roles (PJ) and not CLT. Basically you have an IT company that provides services, instead of being hired as a person. Your company can run under yours spouse’s name. If you succeed, then you can have your own employees.[/QUOTE]
    Which is called a fraud by the TST:
    Sì∫mula n¬∫ 331 do TST
    CONTRATO DE PRESTAÂİÃ∆íO DE SERVIÂİOS. LEGALIDADE (nova redaìßão do item IV e inseridos os itens V e VI ì† redaìßão) – Res. 174/2011, DEJT divulgado em 27, 30 e 31.05.2011
    I – A contrataìßão de trabalhadores por empresa interposta ì© ilegal, formando-se o vì≠nculo diretamente com o tomador dos serviìßos, salvo no caso de trabalho temporì°rio (Lei n¬∫ 6.019, de 03.01.1974).
    It’s a quick way to make an extra buck, as the hiring company can be made to pay all labor law rights over the value of the nota fiscal: holidays, 13 month, FGTS and so on.
    Hiring a PJ is like shooting yourself in the foot.

  • #266605

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=jennerjcruz] Most Brazilian banks and IT companies think it’s worth the risk, as few software engineers sue them for this reason. Being the employee, you can even make some extra money suing your former employer. Of course this behavior will close many doors to you.[/QUOTE]
    Most software companies that I know have gone legit over the last couple of years, and the TST has ordered that the “consulta processual” on the trt sites take down the search based on name, so you can sue all you want. They won’t know and cannot find out.
    Besides sueing them is only goin after your legal rights.

  • #27497

    SINBAD7
    Member

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