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  • #274941

    Anonymous

    Hi all,
    I lived in Rio for a few years. I’ve only been to Rio and the surrounding area.
    I’m going back to Brazil this year for vacation. I’m considering going to Floripa or Minas instead of Rio.
    Wondering if you all can help me with these questions.
    -Where would you recommend, and why?
    -How does the nightlife in each place compare?
    -Where are the people most open to Americans?
    -Where are the women most beautiful and also cool and attainable?
    Obrigado!

  • #274942

    Finrudd
    Participant

    Forgive my slightly tongue in cheek reply, but here you go:

    -Where would you recommend, and why?
    Based on your questions, perhaps Thailand might be more up your alley? However, if it’s Brazil you want, each of the places you mentioned have their own merits. That said, Minas is a state, as is Rio and Floripa is an island as well as a region within the state of Santa Catarina. Point being, they each have various cities to visit. I don’t know much of Rio outside of the city, Paraty and Ilha Bella, but if you lived there, I am guessing you did these?
    People speak highly of Belo Horizonte. People that live there, anyway. Apparently it’s quite a nice city in comparison to some of the disaster-zones around the country. Aside from that, Minas has some historic and cultural towns like Tiradentes and Ouro Preto that are good if you want some culture. A driving holiday around Minas would be nice, taking in some rural Pousadas and some of the countryside, which is very much of the Rolling Hills variety.

    -How does the nightlife in each place compare?
    I suppose it depends what you are in to, but based on your requirement for attainable women, perhaps Rio has more, based on size? Something for everyone..
    -Where are the people most open to Americans?
    Now, that would probably depend on the American, and again, based on the attainable women thing, you might find any nationality is not given a glowing welcome reception if it is perceived that they are only around to attain women, steal the cows and raze the crops to the ground, Viking Style.

    -Where are the women most beautiful and also cool and attainable?
    Cool & Attainable? Sir, you ask too much! Cheap & Attainable, Slightly addled with decades of drink & Attainable maybe. Cool & not interested in being dragged back to a budget motel by their hair after being clubbed over the head, quite likely.
    Anyway – sounds like you have a cracking vacation lined up, so enjoy! Big smile
  • #274967

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=finrudd]Forgive my slightly tongue in cheek reply, but here you go:

    -Where would you recommend, and why?
    Based on your questions, perhaps Thailand might be more up your alley? However, if it’s Brazil you want, each of the places you mentioned have their own merits. That said, Minas is a state, as is Rio and Floripa is an island as well as a region within the state of Santa Catarina. Point being, they each have various cities to visit. I don’t know much of Rio outside of the city, Paraty and Ilha Bella, but if you lived there, I am guessing you did these?
    People speak highly of Belo Horizonte. People that live there, anyway. Apparently it’s quite a nice city in comparison to some of the disaster-zones around the country. Aside from that, Minas has some historic and cultural towns like Tiradentes and Ouro Preto that are good if you want some culture. A driving holiday around Minas would be nice, taking in some rural Pousadas and some of the countryside, which is very much of the Rolling Hills variety.

    -How does the nightlife in each place compare?
    I suppose it depends what you are in to, but based on your requirement for attainable women, perhaps Rio has more, based on size? Something for everyone..
    -Where are the people most open to Americans?
    Now, that would probably depend on the American, and again, based on the attainable women thing, you might find any nationality is not given a glowing welcome reception if it is perceived that they are only around to attain women, steal the cows and raze the crops to the ground, Viking Style.

    -Where are the women most beautiful and also cool and attainable?
    Cool & Attainable? Sir, you ask too much! Cheap & Attainable, Slightly addled with decades of drink & Attainable maybe. Cool & not interested in being dragged back to a budget motel by their hair after being clubbed over the head, quite likely.
    Anyway – sounds like you have a cracking vacation lined up, so enjoy! Big smile

    [/QUOTE]

    I really did not appreciate your sarcastic and condescending reply. You managed to fit merely a sentence or two of information into multiple paragraphs of uselessness serving only to belitte my question. You apparently only responded to make yourself feel big and to put me down.
    In response to your specific insults:
    – Thailand? I presume you mean to imply that I am a sex tourist looking for prostitutes. I am not. This is a forum about Brazil. As I said, I have lived in Brazil, but only know one region of the country. I’m interested in returning for a visit. I am a young, attractive person and I am out to have a good time with other young people, including having a casual romantic relationship with a woman. This does not include prostitution, which is fine for others, but I do not engage in that type of behavior. While I can gather lots of information about where the best beaches, mountains, cultural and historical landmarks are, it’s hard to search google for information about a dating scene in a particular place, what the women are like, etc. I find this to be a perfectly valid question, not only one asked by the type of sex tourist who hires prostitutes in Thailand. I am not one of those people.
    – Attainable: I’ve found that in some places, the women may be beautiful, but they are extremely cold, like the people generally may be. Whereas in other places, the people and the women included are friendlier and easier to talk to. These are impressions and opinions – I’m asking for yours. If you don’t have any good ones to share, maybe you are married, or just don’t know. I did not learn anything from your commentary on this topic.
    – Open to Americans: Your response was insulting and you apparently fail to understand how prejudice works. The whole idea of prejudice is that it’s PRE. I’ve traveled far and wide on our beautiful planet. When you say, “I’m American,” many people have a reaction to it – positive or negative, and I’ve experienced both across many countries and several continents. I’ve found this can be regional, especially in a large country such as Brazil. I agree, one is received depending on how one behaves. Yet, prejudice exists, and I was looking for some sort of impression on how it may differ across the regions I asked about.
    – Minas is a state, Rio is a city: Of course, you nailed this one as well. I rattled off some of the places that came to mind, not paying attention to whether they are cities, villages, or states. I left it up to the person responding to use common sense and to share his or her insights as to preferable places to visit.
  • #274968

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=goingtobrasil31][QUOTE=finrudd]Forgive my slightly tongue in cheek reply, but here you go:

    -Where would you recommend, and why?
    Based on your questions, perhaps Thailand might be more up your alley? However, if it’s Brazil you want, each of the places you mentioned have their own merits. That said, Minas is a state, as is Rio and Floripa is an island as well as a region within the state of Santa Catarina. Point being, they each have various cities to visit. I don’t know much of Rio outside of the city, Paraty and Ilha Bella, but if you lived there, I am guessing you did these?
    People speak highly of Belo Horizonte. People that live there, anyway. Apparently it’s quite a nice city in comparison to some of the disaster-zones around the country. Aside from that, Minas has some historic and cultural towns like Tiradentes and Ouro Preto that are good if you want some culture. A driving holiday around Minas would be nice, taking in some rural Pousadas and some of the countryside, which is very much of the Rolling Hills variety.

    -How does the nightlife in each place compare?
    I suppose it depends what you are in to, but based on your requirement for attainable women, perhaps Rio has more, based on size? Something for everyone..
    -Where are the people most open to Americans?
    Now, that would probably depend on the American, and again, based on the attainable women thing, you might find any nationality is not given a glowing welcome reception if it is perceived that they are only around to attain women, steal the cows and raze the crops to the ground, Viking Style.

    -Where are the women most beautiful and also cool and attainable?
    Cool & Attainable? Sir, you ask too much! Cheap & Attainable, Slightly addled with decades of drink & Attainable maybe. Cool & not interested in being dragged back to a budget motel by their hair after being clubbed over the head, quite likely.
    Anyway – sounds like you have a cracking vacation lined up, so enjoy! Big smile

    [/QUOTE]

    I really did not appreciate your sarcastic and condescending reply. You managed to fit merely a sentence or two of information into multiple paragraphs of uselessness serving only to belitte my question. You apparently only responded to make yourself feel big and to put me down.
    In response to your specific insults:
    – Thailand? I presume you mean to imply that I am a sex tourist looking for prostitutes. I am not. This is a forum about Brazil. As I said, I have lived in Brazil, but only know one region of the country. I’m interested in returning for a visit. I am a young, attractive person and I am out to have a good time with other young people, including having a casual romantic relationship with a woman. This does not include prostitution, which is fine for others, but I do not engage in that type of behavior. While I can gather lots of information about where the best beaches, mountains, cultural and historical landmarks are, it’s hard to search google for information about a dating scene in a particular place, what the women are like, etc. I find this to be a perfectly valid question, not only one asked by the type of sex tourist who hires prostitutes in Thailand. I am not one of those people.
    – Attainable: I’ve found that in some places, the women may be beautiful, but they are extremely cold, like the people generally may be. Whereas in other places, the people and the women included are friendlier and easier to talk to. These are impressions and opinions – I’m asking for yours. If you don’t have any good ones to share, maybe you are married, or just don’t know. I did not learn anything from your commentary on this topic.
    – Open to Americans: Your response was insulting and you apparently fail to understand how prejudice works. The whole idea of prejudice is that it’s PRE. I’ve traveled far and wide on our beautiful planet. When you say, “I’m American,” many people have a reaction to it – positive or negative, and I’ve experienced both across many countries and several continents. I’ve found this can be regional, especially in a large country such as Brazil. I agree, one is received depending on how one behaves. Yet, prejudice exists, and I was looking for some sort of impression on how it may differ across the regions I asked about.
    – Minas is a state, Rio is a city: Of course, you nailed this one as well. I rattled off some of the places that came to mind, not paying attention to whether they are cities, villages, or states. I left it up to the person responding to use common sense and to share his or her insights as to preferable places to visit.

    [/QUOTE]

    Well there’s alife lesson for you finrudd; I bet you didn’t expect to get that bitterchocolate from the box. This humourless traveller bears all the hallmarks of atroll when protesting the inference that he’s a sex tourist despite hisquestions being unambiguously laden with his hope to get laid on the basis of hisbeing so terribly attractive and American into the bargain.

    Seeming hisclaim to be well travelled is countered by his naivety given his alleged previousexperience with beautiful intelligent women who have given him the coldshoulder upon discovering his obvious ineptitude with the social graces such asexampled by his reply to your amusing post. Despite all of his failings I’m certainthat at the very least he’ll experience a knee-trembler with a dusky maiden ina toilet cubicle before his travels are over; at least this would be animprovement on masturbation and wishful thinking. Confused

  • #274971

    graham
    Participant

    Perhaps theOP only accidently “slipped” in his choice of adjectives to describe what he isseeking for his next Brasilian holiday: “nightlifeâ‚Ǩ¬¶open to Americansâ‚Ǩ¬¶women mostbeautifulâ‚Ǩ¬¶coolâ‚Ǩ¬¶and attainable.” How should this quest be interpreted? Such a question,once posed, leaves itself open entertaining replies.

    Actually,Finrudd’s response is right on, informative, and appropriately framed. It alsoexpresses that dash of humor which helps keep this forum interesting.
    OP: If you have “traveled far and wide on ourbeautiful planet” and already “lived in Rio, ” then the replies which you arereceiving to your posts seem more right than your naivete.
    happy trails
  • #274976

    Anonymous
    Have fun adding posts to threads titled “top things I hate about (my awful life) in Brazil” or whatever keeps you busy. I’ll be out having fun, at home or in Brazil. What a bunch of nonsense.
  • #274977

    Finrudd
    Participant

    [QUOTE=goingtobrasil31]

    Have fun adding posts to threads titled “top things I hate about (my awful life) in Brazil” or whatever keeps you busy. I’ll be out having fun, at home or in Brazil. What a bunch of nonsense.

    [/QUOTE]

    I apologize if my (as mentioned) tongue in cheek post offended you – I was ‘tirando o sal’as we say in Brazil. Now you have provided a little more information, I would suggest Floripa is the right destination for you, without a doubt, providing you go in season. Nightlife, beautiful women, cool beaches (did I get those two the wrong way around?) and a fun place to hang out.
    As for your attainable women thing – well, that’s still a sticking point. Attainable is objective – if you are an a$$hole then they are only attainable with Roofies or hard-currency. If you are a nice person, with a interesting personality, then where in the world are any people, male or female, not likely to be interested in conversing with you, and who knows, moving on to second base? Likewise being American – short of the obvious examples, generally those countries that have mobs burning the stars and stripes while shooting AK47’s into the air, where on this planet are Americans actually not any less welcome than any other nation? There are nice Americans as there are nice Japanese, Indian, French and Germans (even nice Dutch, I am told :) ) but again it comes down to personality and behavior. Does being American earn you VIP status in Brazil? Probably not. Does being American exclude you from night life, attainable women and cool beaches? Probably not. It all comes down to the individual.
    Anyway, sorry to have caused offence – hope you have a great holiday wherever you choose.
    P.S don’t forget the Roofies! Wink
    P.P.S – tirando o sal – again! Wink
  • #274979

    Silpy Gomden
    Member

    I have certainly had my entertainment this morning reading the Rio vs. Floripa vs. Minas posts.

    It was a most entertaining way to start my day. Wink
  • #274980

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=finrudd][QUOTE=goingtobrasil31]

    Have fun adding posts to threads titled “top things I hate about (my awful life) in Brazil” or whatever keeps you busy. I’ll be out having fun, at home or in Brazil. What a bunch of nonsense.

    [/QUOTE]

    I apologize if my (as mentioned) tongue in cheek post offended you – I was ‘tirando o sal’as we say in Brazil. Now you have provided a little more information, I would suggest Floripa is the right destination for you, without a doubt, providing you go in season. Nightlife, beautiful women, cool beaches (did I get those two the wrong way around?) and a fun place to hang out.
    As for your attainable women thing – well, that’s still a sticking point. Attainable is objective – if you are an a$$hole then they are only attainable with Roofies or hard-currency. If you are a nice person, with a interesting personality, then where in the world are any people, male or female, not likely to be interested in conversing with you, and who knows, moving on to second base? Likewise being American – short of the obvious examples, generally those countries that have mobs burning the stars and stripes while shooting AK47’s into the air, where on this planet are Americans actually not any less welcome than any other nation? There are nice Americans as there are nice Japanese, Indian, French and Germans (even nice Dutch, I am told :) ) but again it comes down to personality and behavior. Does being American earn you VIP status in Brazil? Probably not. Does being American exclude you from night life, attainable women and cool beaches? Probably not. It all comes down to the individual.
    Anyway, sorry to have caused offence – hope you have a great holiday wherever you choose.
    P.S don’t forget the Roofies! Wink
    P.P.S – tirando o sal – again! Wink

    [/QUOTE]

    Thanks mate. I really do appreciate your post. I am going to look into spots in and around Floripa. Contrary to what my post may lead readers to believe, I’m a nice person. No need to apologize, but I do appreciate the apology.
    I also apologize if any are offended by the way I asked my question.
    As for the American thing, as I’ve said, I’ve traveled a lot. I’ve certainly found that it’s not just in Iraq or Afghanistan that people do not respond positively when you say, “I’m from the US.” On the other hand, in some places, the people tend to respond quite positively when I say I am from the US. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, it’s not for me to judge. I just prefer to avoid places where I face a significant such a barrier to having a positive interaction with the people. I’m not looking for any special treatment for being from the country I’m from, but I’m also not looking to travel to a particular region/city/whatever where they happen to be, for example, fed up with American tourists. Sounds like that is not the case in Floripa, lucky me!
  • #274981

    Finrudd
    Participant

    I had never really thought of that thing about being American before, but I can understand what you mean. The Brits were never very welcome in the South of Spain, outside of the tourist areas, anyway, as they had a bad reputation, sometimes deserved, sometimes not.

    My father in law lives just North of Floripa, and in season, Camburiu has good night life. I would also add that it is less of a tourist destination, so as a foreigner, you would be more of a novelty than in Floripa. It’s about 45 minutes driving from Floripa, and worth checking out. Also the beaches of Estaleiro and Estalerinho, North of Itapema, and Cabeìßudas are worth a look in peak season, both having a young crowd. This hotel http://paradorestaleirohotel.com.br/being the centre of a very Balearic scene back in the day.

  • #274993

    OP, all of southeast Brazil is similar in more ways than not.
    Rio is a big mess right now with the construction that it going on.
    I would say go to BH. I lived there for a while. There’s an international airport (international flights to/from) the US and big stores and fast food restaurants similar to Rio, except KFC. But the pace there is slower than Rio.
    As to the American question, you would most likely be a novelty. I believe anything that could be construed as “anti-American” in Brazil is really just envy. But a lot of that depends on who you associate with. Best of Luck!

  • #275114

    Anonymous

    Thanks! I think I am going to split my time between a few spots in Minas and a few down south. I have spent a lot of time in Rio already anyhow, I want to explore. :-)

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    Anonymous

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