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  • #55371

    Greenback
    Member

    Does any lady actually have any positive long term love stories to tell with a brasilian man? Commitment, faithfulness – is it possible?

  • #55372

    Anonymous

    Loads of women on here have moved to Brazil to be with their boyfriends so it can’t be all that bad!

    Maybe these girls like the brazilians in England as they are exotic but when they get to brazil they get home sick and bored.

  • #55374

    Brazzilliann
    Member

    It’s possible, but hard & selective work as anywhere in this world… some ladies posted terrible experiences with bf/husbands… I remember Fabcats praising her husband a lot!

  • #55385

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=melskyracer]

    Does any lady actually have any positive long term love stories to tell with a brasilian man? Commitment, faithfulness – is it possible?

    [/QUOTE]

    Commitment and faithfulness… humm a little more difficult (not impossible of course), but if a girl is satisfied by passionate sex only than it will be easier…

  • #55389

    brettsmith
    Member

    I have been married for two years, so far so good.

  • #55437

    brettsmith
    Member

    I am married to a great Brazilian guy, who is nothing like the typical
    macho stereotype. I also have many friends and students who do not
    seem to be the stereotype, but they are usually very well educated. I think
    that makes a difference.

  • #55445

    toastwise
    Member

    [QUOTE=MonicaB]

    Commitment and faithfulness… humm a little more difficult (not impossible of course), but if a girl is satisfied by passionate sex only than it will be easier… [/QUOTE]

    Since when was passionate sex not enough?

  • #55487

    Greenback
    Member

    Mel,

    Don’t despair – like most things in Life, people are more forthcoming in complaiing about something than they are about praising it!!

    I have a wonderful Brazilian boyfriend. He is passionate, loyal, beautiful, and ..commited! i think ninha made a good point about education making a difference – and likewise with family structure.

    However, there are certainly plenty of Brazilian guys who go travelling overseas and just want to play around with girls, but then i don’t think this is a ‘brazilian’ thing per se. i used to live in Asia, and all the Canadian and British (among other nationalities of English speakers) guys were useless at caring for girls there too… fact is that sometimes travelling is like taking time out of reality. its a time just to cut loose and, well, play around.

    if you are posting this topic because you are contemplating a relationship with a Brazilian guy, my advice is to think with your head, but don’t get to wrapped up in stereo types and other peoples bad luck stories.

    and as for the part of passionate sex… OH YEAH! aint that the truth!!! Wink

  • #56085

    Greenback
    Member

    Hi Melskyracer!

    Well all in all I have a nice experience not to say that things are not difficult but if you intend to have a long term relationship with any foreigner you will be in for slightly more of a bumpy ride. Especially if like myself who did not speak any portuguese, had a 6 month old baby and had been very independant in the UK. Commitment is definately there faithfulness I think so but you never really know. It is rare to find other female foreigners here it is normally the man who is a European so to find a loyal friend outside of your relationship circle can be quite hard and some women be it friends or even family like to play games and as a homesick European that is hard at times. Things to think of if you really are considering long term and living in his country: support is essential, language, make job contacts in your home country luckily i have work which took me 3 months to arrange but I had strong contacts and references from home. If you started a family would you be happy being away from your family and friends. Those are the things I question having a baby is so life changing and it is with those special life-long friends that it is good to share these moments with. So all in all if you can accomplish the same amount of independence that you have in your relationship in your own country you will be fine. Anything that involves becoming utterly emotionally dependant on someone is always a dangerous one.

    So like any relationship, be it with a foreigner or not, needs a trial period so see how it goes… just don‘t get knocked up with all that great sex!

  • #56125

    phsp23
    Member

    [QUOTE=Evaa]

    Hi Melskyracer!

    Well all in all I have a nice experience not to say that things arenot difficult but if you intend to have a long term relationship withany foreigner you will be in for slightly more of a bumpyride. Especially if like myself who did not speak any portuguese,had a 6 month old baby and had been very independant in theUK. Commitment is definately there faithfulness I think so but younever really know. It is rare to find other female foreigners hereit is normally the man who is a European so to find a loyal friendoutside of your relationship circle can be quite hard and somewomen be it friends or even family like to play games and as a homesickEuropean that is hard at times. Things to think of if you reallyare considering long term and living in his country: support isessential, language, make job contacts in your home countryluckily i have work which took me 3 months to arrange but Ihad strong contacts and references from home. If you started a familywould you be happy being away from your family and friends. Thoseare the things I question having a baby is so life changing and it iswith those special life-long friends that it is good to share thesemoments with. So all in all if you can accomplish the same amount ofindependence that you have in your relationship in your own country youwill be fine. Anything that involves becoming utterlyemotionally dependant on someone is always a dangerous one.

    So like any relationship, be it with a foreigner or not, needs atrial period so see how it goes… just don‘t get knocked up with allthat great sex!

    [/QUOTE]
    I second this, especially the last part.

  • #56178

    Aaronk
    Member

    Almost 10 years married, happily.

    But my husband does not seem to be the stereotypical brazilian, and we are happy por caramba.

  • #59908

    lenine
    Member

    I am an American married to a Brazilian man here in the states…we have just celebrated our three year anniversary. So far so good…..

  • #61896

    moumitamou
    Member

    Hi, I agree with the lady with the baby. It is very hard to come to a
    country & be emotionally dependent on someone else && I would add that
    it’s taken me almost 1 1/2 years to actually make good Brazilian FEMALE
    friends who offer insight & support. For the 1st year it was like hell – I
    found the women here incredibly childish and competitive and not very
    nice (although the oozing “Oi, tudo bem” always came, there were so
    many times when I would be reminded of a plastic smiled person who
    wanted to scratch my eyes out). I went out with a guy who had women
    calling him at all hours of the day or night & they had absolutely NO
    regard whatsoever for me. They would stick their bodyparts in his face
    and flirt
    to death while turning their backs to me. Now I’ve smartened up, and
    after watching a lot of old Hollywood films, have tailored myself a
    stronger attitude that DEFINITELY sends out the “don’t mess with me”
    vibe.
    As per education etc., I’m not certain that this makes all that difference
    UNLESS the person has been educated overseas. Otherwise, I’ve found
    that the stereotypes fit UNTIL they start to see you, the GRINGA, as having
    a name and being a human being. This is what’s happened with me.
    Finally I have some lovely friends who’ve admitted that they didn’t like
    Americans so ignored me, or that other women that I know were
    deliberately mean just to play with me.
    I’d say to have a relationship with a Brazilian guy 1) make SURE that you
    have a good circle of friends 2) don’t hope that his female friends will be
    nice (be polite but ignore them & make sure that you have a life). I think
    that a big part of any relationship is how it fits into the bigger picture.
    As per the guy in question, I needed a break & wanted to make my own
    life, but now he’s contacting me again & I feel one heck of a lot better
    because I feel far more stable. Be careful of the women who play games
    is my BIG advice & FIND your own true friends!!!Coquis39148,9375925926

  • #61897

    Sampa2009
    Member

    I know I don’t exactly belong here but…

    Been married 8.5 years! Gets better every day. Was rough the first few years, but it was worth it, made us stronger.

    My wife, Brazilian, says that gringo men marrying Brazilian women is all too common. On the other hand, it is very rare to find a Brazilian man willing to marry a gringoe woman from anywhere. They will date, sure, but his family may be kept in the dark…. Am sure there are exceptions to the rule, but is this the norm?

    john.jane39148,9645833333

  • #65715

    masha
    Member

    I wonder how many gringoes marry gringas in Brazil? If one gringoe has a perm. visa by non-marriage, business or retirement, does the gringa he or she marries get a perm. visa if they marry? Never hear of this. Nancee39186,4816782407

  • #65731

    Aaronk
    Member

    Nancee – Yes there is a process for this. This is how the wives and families of people on work contracts and executives can come. Investor visas as well. Excuse me, I’m too lazy to look it up and provide the link…

  • #65737

    testresource
    Member

    But you’re so good with links Dunga!!

    What about a gringo or gringa that married a Brazilian or had a baby here and then seperated and later married a gringo/gringa?

  • #65741

    aman
    Member

    I’m sorry to hear things are not working out, Cam.

  • #65882

    [QUOTE=Camzao]What about a gringo or gringa that married a Brazilian or had a baby here and then seperated and later married a gringo/gringa?[/QUOTE]
    Perm visa via BR kid…

  • #65897

    Daisy
    Member

    Camzao

    Well I just said I was too lazy, not that I couldn‚Äôt…There is this ResoluçãoNormativa n¬∫ 36, de 28 de setembro de 1999by which permenencia can beobtained by relatives of citizens or permanent residents of Brazil. This may beinvoked to obtain a permanent visa from the MRE at a Brazilian consulate inthe exterior (Art. 1¬∫), or to obtain permanência defenitva com base de reuniãofamiliar through the MJ and the Policia Federal by foreigners legally in Brazil(Art. 8¬∫). It can be applied to the spouseof a permanent resident (Art. 4¬∫) or the parent of a Brazilian under their custodyand support (Art. 7¬∫). There are provisions for temporary visas for thedependents of temporary residents as well.

  • #65908

    blue
    Member

    [QUOTE=nevergoingback]I’m sorry to hear things are not working out, Cam. [/QUOTE]

    Hey dude,

    I didn’t say that, I just thought of it when I saw Nancee’s query.

    tis all

  • #65909

    CrydayTrach
    Member

    [QUOTE=Denise] [QUOTE=Camzao]What about a gringo or gringa that married a Brazilian or had a baby here and then seperated and later married a gringo/gringa?[/QUOTE]
    Perm visa via BR kid…
    [/QUOTE]

    No it’s not… I was talking about the potential new partner (providing they weren’t Brazilian) of the gringo/gringa that was married to a brazilian or the parent of one

  • #65924

    analivia
    Member

    [QUOTE=Camzao]

    [QUOTE=nevergoingback]I’m sorry to hear things are not working out, Cam. [/QUOTE]

    Hey dude,

    I didn’t say that, I just thought of it when I saw Nancee’s query.

    tis all

    [/QUOTE]
    I was kidding! I really should start using emoticons more often. Written words can appear to mean so many different things without the benefit of voice inflection. Reference GringaSSZ’s recent comment to Boris G in the ‘selling houses by auction’ thread.
    nevergoingback39188,3101157407

  • #69333

    lenine
    Member

    Hey there, i’ve just come back from Brazil and had a more than turbulent time there when it comes to love. Initially went out for one guy who’d i met previously, only to be dumped on the first night. Being vunerable and alone, i quickly got myself into another relationship with a guy who couldn’t take care of me enough, to the point where i felt strangled and lost all my freedom. I was stupid to get involved but i just wanted to be loved, but ended up being loved too much.

    Anyway, this story of woe has a point and thought i’d share it with you guys as it might prevent someone else having the same estoria! Basically, i have a real things for the hippies and rastas in Brazil. Being a hippy myself i was, like most tourists, bowled over by the feeling of freedom you have there as a European. Met my first guy and we had a a good couple months together and then i came home. Had always promised i’d go back for him but it turned out him waiting 6 months was too long and now i even doubt he loved me at all with the things i’ve found out since. So after the trauma of the first night i then went on to get together with my second hippy. It all seemed really good although i was still in love with the first. But then the second hippy started showing his true colours and i’m talking a jealousy which is uncomparable to anything i have seen before. Although he loves me very much and would do anything for me, when he’s jealous it can be like being with a crazy person and he did hurt me physically on a number of occasions. We’re still together, in his head anyway, but i’m finding it really difficult to tell him the truth because i just know he’ll go and do something stupid.

    Anyway, the point to all this is a word of advice to all girls traveling to Brazil. The men of Brazil, wether they are hippies or a supposed respectable member of society, are beautiful just as the girls are. Infact, i think they are better but i’m biased! As a European you will attract lots of attention because just as they are exotic to us, so are we to them. And then there’s the reputation thing as unfortuately us gringos/as have been traveling over there and having lots of sex for sometime now. So if you meet a guy, they are likely to think that because you are European, you are pretty much up for it the first night. Now i can be naughty as the next but just because you have a one night thing doesn’t make you easy and believe me, brazilians know what to say to a girl to make her weak. Or maybe it is just me?! Not all Brazillians think the same but the reputation is there all the same. My experience with my first guy has shown me that you do need to be careful and many Brazillians, both men and women will see you as a meal-ticket and it’s justifyable why as we earn so much more money in Brazil. If you meet someone who likes you for real then they won’t see this and will want to pay their way as much as they can, even if they don’t have much themselves. The men of Brazil are a lot more macho than our lil’ European men and paying for a women is part of this. But the macho thing can get a bit much too, especially when you’re from somewhere where the men are so much weaker. Jealousy is a common trait of brazillian men so i’ve been told and this can be anything from the occasional grumble to the sort of experiences i had. They are very big on the respect thing too and to ‘dis-respect’ your boyfriend will have consequences, verbal or physical, but of course what disrespect is difers from person to person. For me, thismeant simply talking to someone else or even being in their vicinity! So watch out ladies, brazilian men and women likewise can be very jealous creatures but for the men this is different as with the whole machismo thing it can lead to an explosive combination. They are not all the same and i have many lovely (male) friends there who have never shown a sign of mentalness like my hippy! I have the typical trait of liking the bad guys too and in Brazil you can find some seriously bad guys!

    So “what has this crazy-hippy-girl-who-likes-crazy-men learnt from her experiences or is she just a masachist” i hear you say. Well as with anywher in the world, love can be the best abd the worst thing for you. But when in another place be mindful of cultural differences and how they can affect you – there is a reason why brazillian prisons are supposed to be filled with men who’ve murdered or hurt there wives/girlfriends! But while you should be careful don’t be completely closed because there really are as many good ones out there as there are bad. Try not to be bowled over by their beauty and remember it’s the person inside them that will stay with you while their looks will disappear.

    Despite my last experience and believe me you don’t know half of it, i’ll be going back to Brazil to live because it is a great place and i can do the sort of charity work there that i want to do. if i end up being with another brazillian that’s fine but i will be a lot more cautious in the future!

  • #69334

    danisango
    Member

    [QUOTE=nevergoingback]
    [QUOTE=Camzao]

    [QUOTE=nevergoingback]I’m sorry to hear things are not working out, Cam. [/QUOTE]

    Hey dude,

    I didn’t say that, I just thought of it when I saw Nancee’s query.

    tis all

    [/QUOTE]I was kidding!¬† I really should start using emoticons more often.¬† Written words can appear to mean so many different things without the benefit of voice inflection.¬† Reference GringaSSZ’s recent comment to Boris G in the ‘selling houses by auction’ thread.¬† [/QUOTE]
    I don’t get it!!! Have i said something to offend you in anyway NGB??? If so that certainly wasn’t my meaning…

  • #69337

    floripa
    Member

    [QUOTE=Gringa SSZ]Ops, I just realized hpow cynical that sounds but i didnt mean it that way ok??? [/QUOTE]
    No! I was merely using this reply that you made (taken from another thread on Auctions) to Boris after an innocent misunderstanding in what you had said, as an example how confusion can arise with the written words that have no tonal emphasis; and to hi-light to Camzao my own need to use emoticons in some instances – in case what I say is taken out of context. It was not meant to point you out personally but was the most recent perfect example available at the time so I referred to it in a general way.
    nevergoingback39222,6836226852

  • #69341

    apricot
    Member

    AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • #69358

    MarkSurv
    Member

    Natty
    I totally know what you mean. I’m still in Brazil, and did a no-no. I had being seeing this woman for about a week. I really like her, but I got the impression she didn’t like me as much. Anyway, one evening I went to dinner with another woman I’d met on a previous trip. It was a disaster. Someone saw me, and called her. She showed up and the fireworks were unbelievable. So now I’m embarrassed, and feeling guilty for hurting her feelings. It seems she had similar feelings for me, but never verbalized it.
    I don’t know. I’m gonna give her some time to cool down, and call her in a few days.

  • #69359

    x32792
    Member

    ouch. o_O

  • #69368

    danpatel
    Member

    big_b48198

    i do have to say i didn’t do anything wrong as far as i’m aware and started going out with the second guy after it ended with the first, even if it was only 10 days or so after! Doesn’t matter anyway coz he had another woman. When it comes to the first guy though, i never quite believed i’d managed to bag such a beautiful guy and maybe that affected how i was with him? Who knows?

    I’m not surprised she was angry and that brazillian blood can be real fiery when it’s angry so i can imagine the scene! I wouldn’t leave it too long though because, and i think this is true for many girls and not just my brazillian counterparts, girls like to know their man wants them and leaving things too long could be taken that you don’t care. When you do get around to calling her, just explain the doubts you had and apologize prefusely!

  • #86083

    liaillweado
    Member

    Well where do I start. I feel in love with such a beautiful man. Regardless if he is Brazilian, thats not why I feel in love with him. The weird part to the relationship was i was married at the time we met. But I was not happy. We became very good friends and in the position of my prior marriage I needed to clear my head and get away, so I spent my vacation alone in Florida. We met and he made me laugh like you couldnt believe. We were meant for each other. I was originally from Ohio and he from Brazil moved here to florida almost 6 years ago. Once my divorce was final we realized we wanted to be with each other everyday. Yes before me he talked to other women but but once my divorce was final, he has been extremely loyal to me. I dont think all Brazilian men are loyal but neither is all american men either. I am a big person about trust and I have not given him 100% of my trust but I know without a shadow of a doubt he has not cheated on me. He makes me feel special. He doesnt talk about other women and he always tells me Im more beautiful than anyone, even though I know hes lieing, lol ! We have been friends since 2005 and we moved intogether in Jan of 2007 and we are planning on getting married. We really do love one another and if he can deal with some of my jealousies and insecurities the way he has, this man deserves a medal. I guess theres men out there that believe “what she doesnt know wont hurt her”. He knows that if he even thought about it it would kill me and he does everything to make me not feel that way. I have read people talking about Brazilians being extremely sexual. That is all based off a person not a race. I know him and I are very compatible sexually, we have NO complaints! But we have had our ups and down moments like most couples but we always remember we are all we have for one another. I read on another posting someone said something about brazilians are open sexually during carnival seasons and if they have sex its just considered fun and nothing meant by it, that made me sick to my stomach. Carnivals are for fun but not for a sexual reason. My husband said he wants to take me the carnival so I can experience what he has. He has warned me what I will see and I have told him if any woman put his hand on him in Brazil or in the United States I will beat his ass, ha ha ha ha! Needless to say he might be a little scared but thats another topic alone. Just kidding. He is a very good guy with good values in life and in relationships. The only bad thing I have to say about him is that he from time to time doesnt realize that when I ask him about women that use to be in his life, like ex’s or crushes, he doesnt want to talk about it because he doesnt believe that has anything to do with me now. I believe our past is whats makes us what we are today and knowing his past allows me to know why he is the way he is. Regardless I love him for who he is and not for what I want him to be. Trust in any relationship has to be earned not just given. OK Im done

  • #91091

    demiurge
    Member

    Yes it is possible!
    I had a relationship for about 2 years with a brazilian guy, but unfortunately it isn’t working and we went our separated ways. Anyway, I believe in the true love and when you find the right person you’ll be with him/her forever!
    I believe in a prince in his white horse. The truth is, I’m romantic like the girls in Alvares de Azevedo poetries.
    I’m looking for the true love…

  • #9309

    TotTerfEtry
    Member

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