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  • #228192

    celso
    Member

    This is the guy who planned to operate a casa de encontros in a residential area and rave house. His 40,000 reais sound system had two meter tall speakers. It was so loud you could hear it a half mile away. He had all of the local druggies as visitors.
    He did not live there. A few days ago late at night, a group of men arrived and cleaned out the place of all objects of value. The sound system is clearly gone far, far away. Nice.
    GreatBallsoFire2012-11-30 23:41:57

  • #228193

    doctorlili
    Member

    Congrats. I remember whenever I wanted to sleep near such a thing, I thought of various mean ways of sabotaging them, cut of power, throw a grenade into it, etc. In your case your wish has come true.

  • #228194

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=Squiddie] Congrats. I remember whenever I wanted to sleep near such a thing, I thought of various mean ways of sabotaging them, cut of power, throw a grenade into it, etc. In your case your wish has come true.
    [/QUOTE]
    I almost had a bicycle tire churrasco yet not wanting a war decided to let the locals take action. This might be an inside job. The dog did not attack as it was a friendly, lonely pit bull female. They tied her to a tree. Then cleaned out the place. The owner does not know. He usd to drop off a bag of dog food, cut the bag open, and the poor dog would drink green pool water. Two previous dogs, Rottweilers nearly died of hunger. Karma worked out in this case.
    GreatBallsoFire2012-12-01 00:08:29

  • #228199

    Anonymous

    So what’s to keep the same crew from scoping out the next door neighbors, two big dogs and a perhaps occasionally inattentive caseiro or not? Karma indeed. Isn’t it unseemly to gloat over the misfortunes of others, ’cause what goes around often comes around? A banho das folhas might be in order.Solteropolitano2012-12-01 02:49:58

  • #228218

    agri2001
    Participant

    Holy sh*t. Well that just about explains Karma to its fullest and leaving no misunderstanding whatsoever. Big%20smile

  • #228224

    Anonymous

    A person revels in the death of an old lady’s child and her family’s legal defeat. A person seemingly delights in broadcasting pages and pages of horror and death. A person denigrates the life and home of others with untruths. A person gloats over the losses of another. Do you ever read what you yourself post? [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    Karma in Hinduism: According to the Vedas, …. if one sows evil, one will reap evil.[/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    Karma (Jainism) Karmas are attracted to the karmic field of a soul due to vibrations created by activities of mind, speech, and body as well as various mental dispositions.[/QUOTE]

    What kind of karmic field have the actions above set up for the soul in question? [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    No worries.[/QUOTE]

    To paraphrase Fiddler: Is there a proper blessing for such a person? A blessing for such a person? Of course! May God bless and keep that person… far away from us on this too small island!

  • #228227

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=Solteropolitano]

    A person revels in the death of an old lady’s child and her family’s legal¬†defeat.

    A person seemingly delights in broadcasting pages and pages of horror and death.

    A person denigrates the life and home of others with untruths.

    A person gloats over the losses of another.

     

    Amazing how much empathy you have for a human trafficker. He has enemies and uses a bodyguard. He has ties to organized crime. His Rottweilers nearly died of hunger. Proven animal abuser. He told me my gf’s baby could go to hell when I complained about the noise. Clearly a coke head and ecstasy abuser.
    His rave house/bordello is stripped to the bone. Fantastic! He will go away and stay in Salvador. No more noise, drugs and criminals next door. God bless him and may he stay far away.
    You constantly chase me across the forum to twist my comments and sit in judgement of others. Boring.
    Yes, life is violent in Salvador. Empregadas will lie in court and lose due to filing false charges? Great!
    An empregada’s son of about 30 years of age was shot and killed in a bar in Salvador.
    The empregada’s church going friend had a son who was a one man crime wave about 18 years of age who was shot and killed by some hooded men around midnight a few years ago.
    The longer you live in Salvador the closer the violence gets. Just a matter of time and statistics.
    Denigrated others with untruths? Nonsense.
    Gloats over a loss? Nonsense. So I am losing a bad/horrible neighbor? Great karma for me.
    GreatBallsoFire2012-12-01 11:18:22

  • #228234

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] You constantly chase me across the forum to twist my comments [/QUOTE] Twist comments? rsrsrsrsrsrsrs This from the person, for just one tiny example throughout a long history of such posts, who has consistently denied there is water treatment in part of the island, even in the face of a resident’s statement (based on actual testing) and newspaper article also proving that there is. But your gf got a sunburn at the beach and you blame her skin pain on (non-existent) water pollution? Twist what? The truth into what you perceive it to be through weird negativity glasses? [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] and sit in judgement of others.
    [/QUOTE] I’m sure the readers here don’t need little old me to judge you or your character. From what I’ve read here, they’ve got you nailed, but don’t care to waste a lot of space banginf their heads against a wall on that issue. (I am just nostalgic for the “good old days” when a better forum as a community simply spent time helping each other, and had less interest in provoking trolls for amusement, and for the obsessive violence and negativity you continually post. I choose to hang on for the goodinfo and the behind the scenes camraderie. Or just call me Dona Quixote.) Life is tranquil in Salvador for those who are tranquil. Axe’. Solteropolitano2012-12-01 11:59:08

  • #228238

    doctorlili
    Member

    Aha, now I understand Solteropolitano’s rant against me “gathering” bad info about the NE. May be you should speak up more often when people get poked fun at for their supposed rose-colored-brazil-goggles? May be you should contribute to cast a more human, relaxed light on everything? I’m not a believer in all that negativity either.
    But I do feel happy for GBF being relieved of such a neighbor. It drives the most peace-loving person insane if the neighbors make noise. Whether they are also criminals and don’t treat their dogs well, never mind. The noise is what matters.
    We lived next door to an Assemblia de Deus, and it was the horror! Thrice a week or 4 times they would blart their amateurish music (always the same old same old and never getting better at it) and their gritations through oversized amps for hours on end. And on special day they’d do it all day. Meanwhile me trying to have conference calls with clients in the US toggling the mute button on every breath I’m taking. Noise is the WORST stressor that I know.
    Good riddance for a noisy neighbor disappear wherever or whatever happened to him. I do consider that his karma, yes.
    Squiddie2012-12-01 12:17:04

  • #228241

    815
    Member

    Do I smell another Baianana (Margaret) vs. Bobby da Ipiticirica (Great Balls) feud brewing?

  • #228245

    jaenicoll
    Member

    Karma be damned, the way this guy is described I am very very happy he got robbed. I really wish him the worst.

  • #228257

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=nesne2]….the way this guyis described….[/QUOTE] Exactly. On prior history, it’s in the realm of probablity that the guy could be a philanthropist and proponent of animal rights. LOL

  • #228258

    doctorlili
    Member

    ^^ he could be a saint, if he makes regular extensive noise next to my house, good riddance if he is gone.

  • #228263

    Anonymous

    Big [QUOTE=Squiddie]…if ….. [/QUOTE] On this forum, most anything is conceivable. Red can be described as green. And responding posters can base their conclusions and opinions on that “fact”. Solteropolitano2012-12-01 13:42:14

  • #228273

    Pedro
    Member

    [QUOTE=Solteropolitano][QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    You constantly chase me across the forum to twist my comments
    [/QUOTE]
    Twist comments? rsrsrsrsrsrsrs
    This from the person, for just one tiny example throughout a long history of such posts, who has consistently denied there is water treatment in part of the island, even in the face of a resident’s statement (based on actual testing) and newspaper article also proving that there is. But your gf got a sunburn at the beach and you blame her skin pain on (non-existent) water pollution? Twist what? The truth into what you perceive it to be through weird negativity glasses?
    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]
    and sit in judgement of others.
    [/QUOTE]
    I’m sure the readers here don’t need little old me to judge you or your character. From what I’ve read here, they’ve got you nailed, but don’t care to waste a lot of space banginf their heads against a wall on that issue.
    (I am just nostalgic for the “good old days” when a better forum as a community simply spent time helping each other, and had less interest in provoking trolls for amusement, and for the obsessive violence and negativity you continually post. I choose to hang on for the goodinfo and the behind the scenes camraderie. Or just call me Dona Quixote.)
    Life is tranquil in Salvador for those who are tranquil. Axe’.

    [/QUOTE]

    People can post what they like, just as long as it isnt offensive or defamatory to any individual on the forum.
    Good old days? hahaha.. you mean when there were about 5 people posting and just having general chats about living and eating out in Sao Paulo. give me a break. Thank god the forum is moving foward with different opinions and the realities of Brazil, instead of people pretending to be living in some utopian world and sweeping the realities and their struggles under the carpet in fear of being attacked by people with alterior motives for painting Brazil as some utopian paradise.
    Brazil has ugliness aswell as beauty, both sides should be discussed. Why dont the positive people, post more positive things about Brazil, thats what i would like to see.
    When Brazilians say things like, Brazilians dont like to be direct, they see it as rude..hahaha, no they dont like being direct, that is because they are deceptive liars alot of the time. Always makes me laugh reading their opinions and how they treat knew gringoes like a cat playing with a mouse.
    Brazil was born ugly and dysfunctional, who in their right minds thinks it would evolve normaly. Brazilians just dont like to hear it or other people who live in some dream world who have burned their bridges, tough if you cant handle the realities.
    Its called balance, if it gets naturally one sided at times, thats just the nature of things.
    I havent had any neighbours from hell here yet, thank god, had some neighbours from hell in the UK though. The authorities here seem to be cracking down on residential sound blaster festas late at night now, which is good news and about time.

    Amsterdam2012-12-01 15:18:17

  • #228300

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=Solteropolitano]

    Big [QUOTE=Squiddie]…if ….. [/QUOTE]

     

    On this forum, most anything is conceivable.¬†Red can be described as green. And responding posters can base their conclusions and opinions on that “fact”.¬†

    [/QUOTE]
    As a Solteropolitano defending a cafetao who uses both young men and women at his establishment as sex workers who plays rave music at over 300 decibels, please pm me with your address in Salvador. He has the money to buy a all of your neighbors and blast you and who ever does not sell away with his sound system.
    He would love to have you as a neighbor who is concerned about his loss as the locals rebel against his bi-prostitution drug rave house. You can have the criminals and druggies at your doorstep.
    In my neighborhood, when Scarface is looted the povo rejoices. You are clearly not of the povo, as you lament the sex trafficker’s loss. He is a true Solteropolitano. We will make sure to give him your address since you are so concerned about his loss.GreatBallsoFire2012-12-01 20:39:53

  • #228302

    Steven
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Amsterdam] Good old days? hahaha.. you mean when there were about 5 people posting and just having general chats about living and eating out in Sao Paulo. give me a break. Thank god the forum is moving foward with different opinions and the realities of Brazil, instead of people pretending to be living in some utopian world and sweeping the realities and their struggles under the carpet in fear of being attacked by people with alterior motives for painting Brazil as some utopian paradise. [/QUOTE] Interesting to me to see a couple of 2012 newbies talking about the good old days on the Forum. I’ve been here since 2006 and I can vouch for the fact that it’s always been a snake pit.

  • #228303

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=Solteropolitano] [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    You constantly chase me across the forum to twist my comments

    [/QUOTE]

    Twist comments? rsrsrsrsrsrsrs

    This from the person, for just one tiny example throughout a long history of such posts,¬†who has consistently denied there is water treatment in¬†part of the island, even¬†in the face of¬†a resident’s statement (based on actual testing) and newspaper article also proving that there is.¬†But your gf got a sunburn at the beach and you blame¬†her¬†skin pain¬†on (non-existent) water pollution? Twist what? The truth into what you perceive it to be through weird negativity glasses?

     

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    and sit in judgement of others. [/QUOTE]

    I’m sure the readers here don’t need little old me to judge you or your character. From what I’ve read here, they’ve got you nailed, but don’t care to waste a lot of space banginf their heads against a wall on that issue.

     

    (I am just nostalgic for the “good old days” when¬†a better¬†forum as a¬†community simply spent time helping each other, and had¬†less interest¬†in provoking trolls for amusement, and for the obsessive violence¬†and negativity you continually post. I choose to hang on for the goodinfo and the behind the scenes camraderie. Or just call me Dona Quixote.)

     

    Life is tranquil in Salvador for those who are tranquil. Axe’.

    [/QUOTE]
    Please read the resident’s statement. She never states that her house is connected. During Dilma’s campaign a few hundred laborers were hired to dig trenches and lay small plastic pipe about the island to spend Federal PAC money. None of the small plastic pipes were connected to anything. Just a few million reis desviados on the island. In fact 75% of the people in the NE lack saneamento basico.
    The sewage of the few homes in Ponta de Areia on the system is pumped into the Bay so you can swimm in it.
    As a Solteropolitano defending a cafetao who uses both young men and women at his establishment as sex workers who plays rave music at over 300 decibels, please pm me with your address in Salvador. He has the money to buy a all of your neighbors and blast you and who ever does not sell away with his sound system.
    He would love to have you as a neighbor who is concerned about his loss as the locals rebel against his bi-prostitution drug rave house. You can have the criminals and druggies at your doorstep.
    In my neighborhood, when Scarface is looted the povo rejoices. You are clearly not of the povo, as you lament the sex trafficker’s loss. He is a true Solteropolitano. We will make sure to give him your address since you are so concerned about his loss.
    GreatBallsoFire2012-12-01 21:04:21

  • #228304

    Steven
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Steven][QUOTE=Amsterdam] Good old days? hahaha.. you mean when there were about 5 people posting and just having general chats about living and eating out in Sao Paulo. give me a break. Thank god the forum is moving foward with different opinions and the realities of Brazil, instead of people pretending to be living in some utopian world and sweeping the realities and their struggles under the carpet in fear of being attacked by people with alterior motives for painting Brazil as some utopian paradise. [/QUOTE] Interesting to me to see a couple of 2012 newbies talking about the good old days on the Forum. I’ve been here since 2006 and I can vouch for the fact that it’s always been a snake pit. [/QUOTE] My previous post (above) got me to reminiscing so I started perusing the member list to look at some of the people from the good old days. I noticed that Dunga hasn’t been active since September 2012. What happened? Did he get kicked off?

  • #228318

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=Steven] [QUOTE=Amsterdam]

      

    Good old days? hahaha.. you mean when there were about 5 people posting and just having general chats about living and eating out in Sao Paulo. give me a break. Thank god the forum is moving foward with different opinions and the realities of Brazil, instead of people pretending to be living in some utopian world and sweeping the realities and their struggles under the carpet in fear of being attacked by people with alterior motives for painting Brazil as some utopian paradise.

     

    [/QUOTE]

     

    Interesting to me to see a couple of 2012 newbies talking about the good old days on the Forum.¬† I’ve been here since 2006 and I can vouch for the fact that it’s always been a snake pit.

    [/QUOTE]
    KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! This made me laugh! ..and it’s true!

  • #228320

    Patigell
    Member

    [QUOTE=Amsterdam]
    [QUOTE=Solteropolitano][QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    You constantly chase me across the forum to twist my comments

    [/QUOTE]

    Twist comments? rsrsrsrsrsrsrs

    This from the person, for just one tiny example throughout a long history of such posts,¬†who has consistently denied there is water treatment in¬†part of the island, even¬†in the face of¬†a resident’s statement (based on actual testing) and newspaper article also proving that there is.¬†But your gf got a sunburn at the beach and you blame¬†her¬†skin pain¬†on (non-existent) water pollution? Twist what? The truth into what you perceive it to be through weird negativity glasses?

     

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    and sit in judgement of others. [/QUOTE]

    I’m sure the readers here don’t need little old me to judge you or your character. From what I’ve read here, they’ve got you nailed, but don’t care to waste a lot of space banginf their heads against a wall on that issue.

     

    (I am just nostalgic for the “good old days” when¬†a better¬†forum as a¬†community simply spent time helping each other, and had¬†less interest¬†in provoking trolls for amusement, and for the obsessive violence¬†and negativity you continually post. I choose to hang on for the goodinfo and the behind the scenes camraderie. Or just call me Dona Quixote.)

     

    Life is tranquil in Salvador for those who are tranquil. Axe’.

    [/QUOTE]

     
     
    People can post what they like, just as long as it isnt offensive or defamatory to any individual on the forum.
     
    Good old days? hahaha.. you mean when there were about 5 people posting and just having general chats about living and eating out in Sao Paulo. give me a break. Thank god the forum is moving foward with different opinions and the realities of Brazil, instead of people pretending to be living in some utopian world and sweeping the realities and their struggles under the carpet in fear of being attacked by people with alterior motives for painting Brazil as some utopian paradise.
     
    Brazil has ugliness aswell as beauty, both sides should be discussed. Why dont the positive people, post more positive things about Brazil, thats what i would like to see.
     
    When Brazilians say things like, Brazilians dont like to be direct, they see it as rude..hahaha, no they dont like being direct, that is because they are deceptive liars alot of the time. Always makes me laugh reading their opinions and how they treat knew gringoes like a cat playing with a mouse.
     
    Brazil was born ugly and dysfunctional, who in their right minds thinks it would evolve normaly. Brazilians just dont like to hear it or other people who live in some dream world who have burned their bridges, tough if you cant handle the realities.
     
    Its called balance, if it gets naturally one sided at times, thats just the nature of things.
     
    I havent had any neighbours from hell here yet, thank god, had some neighbours from hell in the UK though. The authorities here seem to be cracking down on residential sound blaster festas late at night now, which is good news and about time.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    [/QUOTE]
    Everything is offensive to the hamsters. They’re like the weird kid in school who hated the cool people and instead of trying to develop their own coolness focused all their efforts at getting back at these cool people because they were well much more kicka$$ than the hammys.
    On that note I’ll get me an Acai.

  • #228329

    Pedro
    Member

    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA] [QUOTE=Steven] [QUOTE=Amsterdam]

    Good old days? hahaha.. you mean when there were about 5 people posting and just having general chats about living and eating out in Sao Paulo. give me a break. Thank god the forum is moving foward with different opinions and the realities of Brazil, instead of people pretending to be living in some utopian world and sweeping the realities and their struggles under the carpet in fear of being attacked by people with alterior motives for painting Brazil as some utopian paradise.

    [/QUOTE]

    Interesting to me to see a couple of 2012 newbies talking about the good old days on the Forum. I’ve been here since 2006 and I can vouch for the fact that it’s always been a snake pit.

    [/QUOTE]

    KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! This made me laugh! ..and it’s true![/QUOTE]

    Just because someone is knew to the forum doesnt mean that they are knew to reading the forum or living in Brazil. And who said anything about snakes.
    Hopefully you’ll both get your badges of merit for time served speaking on the forum, reeeeeeeeeeeaaal soon hey. LOL
    LOL
    Oh, you think this is how it works, people get off the plane and immediately get enroled in Gringoes.com forum and start speaking if they dont they are knewbies in Brazil and have no experience of living here…HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
    ..
    I was first here in the early 1990’s driving around the the country, as tourists do and when this forum wasnt even a twinkle in anyones eye..You?
    Like i mention sometimes on here, living on the internet you could be anywhere, the dark side of the moon perhaps, or in a bedsit in Kuala Lumpur, you dont get any real experience of the world on the internet, it helps with some advice but the reality and the practicality will always been alot different.

    Amsterdam2012-12-02 09:29:13

  • #228330

    Pedro
    Member

    [QUOTE=KL Gringo]
    Everything is offensive to the hamsters. They’re like the weird kid in school who hated the cool people and instead of trying to develop their own coolness focused all their efforts at getting back at these cool people because they were well much more kicka$$ than the hammys.
    On that note I’ll get me an Acai. [/QUOTE]

    Wacko
    Always fascinating to listern to strange views from people who dont even live here. LOLWhen are you coming back? you’ll have to change your name again though, back to Toasty, with the oppression here it will be a very apt name.
    Your example of school life is very consistant with your overall tone KL..
    KL was leader of the pack.. Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeese Lightning.. LOL
    LOL
    Was your car Automatic or Systematic LOL

    Amsterdam2012-12-02 08:10:30

  • #228333

    Patigell
    Member

    How about you do all us a favour hammy and get a witty comeback and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD do this the first time without having to go back and RE-EDIT your posts.
    Hahahahaha! Dug up some bad memories for ya eh??

  • #228334

    Pedro
    Member
    Oh, College days hey KL, some people never leave.. LOL
    LOLLOL
    And then one flew over the cuckoos nest, he was quackers. LOL

    Amsterdam2012-12-02 09:26:28

  • #228336

    Patigell
    Member

    haha my point is proven. checkmate. see ya next time round

  • #228352

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] As a Solteropolitano defending a cafetao . .[/QUOTE] Once again, you are not reading what was written. The point I made was that if thieves steal from next-door, there is little to prevent them from scoping out other houses nearby, so maybe the theft is not something to publically rejoice about. [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] You are clearly not of the povo……. [/QUOTE] As you yourself have ridiculed me for several times on this forum, I live among the povo, relatives and friends, on this island. [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] We will make sure to give him your address since you are so concerned about his loss. [/QUOTE] Where do you see any words of mine expressing concern about his loss? I expressed doubt about the credulity of the story and the storyteller given past history, the karma of ‘gozando tanto’ about the downfall of any human being, and the wisdom of living with such constant negativity as you seem to. I am not at all concerned about folks like him. I am confident that the eyes all over this neighborhood would see anything and act on my behalf, as we stand up for each other here. (I don’t need two big dogs and a caseiro to protect my house and stuff, like certain people.) I would be extremely concerned about a certain negativity-soaked poster having my address, though. LOLBetter go summon the local mae de santo to do a keep-negative-gringos-far-away-from-me ceremony of some sort. Solteropolitano2012-12-02 11:32:20

  • #228429

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] A few days ago late at night, a group of men arrived and cleaned out the place of all objects of value. The sound system is clearly gone far, far away. [/QUOTE]
    Obviously, as a good neighbour, you called the police….

  • #228434

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=Amsterdam]
    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA] [QUOTE=Steven] [QUOTE=Amsterdam]

     
    Good old days? hahaha.. you mean when there were about 5 people posting and just having general chats about living and eating out in Sao Paulo. give me a break. Thank god the forum is moving foward with different opinions and the realities of Brazil, instead of people pretending to be living in some utopian world and sweeping the realities and their struggles under the carpet in fear of being attacked by people with alterior motives for painting Brazil as some utopian paradise.

     

    [/QUOTE]

     

    Interesting to me to see a couple of 2012 newbies talking about the good old days on the Forum.¬† I’ve been here since 2006 and I can vouch for the fact that it’s always been a snake pit.

    [/QUOTE]

     
     

    KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK! This made me laugh! ..and it’s true![/QUOTE]

     
     
    Just because someone is knew to the forum doesnt mean that they are knew to reading the forum or living in Brazil. And who said anything about snakes.
     
    Hopefully you’ll both get your badges of¬†merit for time served speaking on the forum, reeeeeeeeeeeaaal soon hey. LOL¬†
      LOL
     
     
    Oh, you think this is how it works, people get off the plane and immediately get enroled in Gringoes.com forum and start speaking if they dont they are knewbies in Brazil and have no experience of living here…HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
     
    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
     
    ..
     
    I was first here¬†in the early 1990’s¬†driving around the the country,¬†as tourists do and when this forum wasnt even a twinkle in anyones eye..You?
     
    Like i mention sometimes on here, living on the internet you could be anywhere, the dark side of the moon perhaps, or in a bedsit in Kuala Lumpur, you dont get any real experience of the world on the internet, it helps with some advice but the reality and the practicality will always been alot different.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    [/QUOTE]
    My laughter was at the snake pit part of the comment. You are quite a touchy fellow. Maybe you should go to Uruguay when they legalize the ganj to relax, little fellow.

  • #228437

    Pedro
    Member

    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA]
    My laughter was at the snake pit part of the comment. You are quite a touchy fellow. Maybe you should go to Uruguay when they legalize the ganj to relax, little fellow. [/QUOTE]

    Like i am a mind reader about which part you find amusing. Stop your howling and take your own advice, your not a general… yet. LOL
  • #228438

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] A few days ago late at night, a group of men arrived and cleaned out the place of all objects of value. The sound system is clearly gone far, far away. [/QUOTE]
    Obviously, as a good neighbour, you called the police…. [/QUOTE]
    I can assure you these guys don’t want police wondering about the place. I was out of the country. Perhaps at the time of the incident the locals thought he was having another loud party.

  • #228441

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=Solteropolitano] So what’s to keep the same crew¬†from scoping out the next door neighbors, two big dogs and a perhaps occasionally inattentive caseiro or not? Karma indeed. Isn’t it¬†unseemly to gloat over the misfortunes of others, ’cause what goes around often comes around? A banho das folhas might be in order.[/QUOTE]
    What a negative minded person. No earth shaking sound system for them to “scope” as you say.
    Tired of your constant judgement calls. Not unseemly to be happy that a criminal has been cleaned out by his buddies. All of the locals are laughing. Gloat over the misfortune of others? Ha! Now that is funny!

  • #228445

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]
    What a negative minded person. No earth shaking sound system for them to “scope” as you say.
    [/QUOTE]

    But enough (gringo everyday comforts) valuables to require two big dogs and a guard?
    Negative-minded? rsrsrsrsrs Just civic-minded. Note: TVs are on sale in the U.S. right now to make practical planning ahead for the thieves next visit easier.
    .

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    Not unseemly to be happy that a criminal has been cleaned out by his buddies.

    [/QUOTE]
    Unseemly. Un-Christian. Un-karmic. Un-Buddhist. etc……..
    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    All of the locals are laughing.
    [/QUOTE]

    As they will be when the same happens to the rich gringo.
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    Anonymous
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  • #228452

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=Solteropolitano]
    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]What a negative minded person. No earth shaking sound system for them to “scope” as you say.
    [/QUOTE]

    But enough (gringo everyday comforts) valuables to require two big dogs and a guard?
    Negative-minded? rsrsrsrsrs  Just civic-minded. Note: TVs are on sale in the U.S. right now to make practical planning ahead for the thieves next visit easier.
    .
    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    Not unseemly to be happy that a criminal has been cleaned out by his buddies.

    [/QUOTE]
    Unseemly. Un-Christian. Un-karmic. Un-Buddhist. etc……..
     
    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire]

    All of the locals are laughing.[/QUOTE]

    As they will be when the same happens to the rich gringo.

    [/QUOTE]
    You think you are funny? Nobody is laughing.
    You know perfectly well that on the island the local druggies use unguarded houses as heir piggy banks. “Arrombamento.” Just walk down any part of the island and you will see iron bars on the windows, concertina wire, electric fences and the walls are going higher.
    Lots of dogs as well. Casa de Racao is big business.
    I love my dogs and they love me. Great!
    You clearly do not know what you are talking about. I have lots of friends in my neighborhood from all social classes. I am known as a generous, kind, helpful neighbor. The mother of my child’s family has deep roots in the area and are very well known. Everybody knows everybody. So just as you in your happy enclave I am safe and happy.
    Risk tends to go up as you leave your area. Rosa, my neighbor from Spain was attacked by a crackhead on the pista near Coroa, she was out of her area. The 54 year old man killed yesterday in Bom Despacho by a crackhead was out of his area. The crackhead was pissed that the fellow only had five reais so he killed him at 5:40AM near the Forum, a few hundred yards from the Bom Preco. He was out of his area.
    Back to karma. This dude is evil. He needs a body guard he has so many enemies. Actions bring about cause and effect. He ran off the gardener, placed a friendly dog in his yard, partied with druggies and known criminals. I am not surprised that his abandoned house gets looted. It took about two years for this to happen.
    GreatBallsoFire2012-12-03 12:07:33

  • #228454

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=Amsterdam]
    [QUOTE=Paulistano USA]My laughter was at the snake pit part of the comment. You are quite a touchy fellow. Maybe you should go to Uruguay when they legalize the ganj to relax, little fellow. [/QUOTE]

     
     
    Like i am a mind reader about which part you find amusing. Stop your howling and take your own advice, your not a general… yet. LOL
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    [/QUOTE]
    If you’re not a mind reader, then keep your mouth shut until you are sure you know what you are talking about. Just a little life lesson.

  • #228464

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=GreatBallsoFire] Rosa, my neighbor from Spain was attacked by a crackhead on the pista near Coroa, she was out of her area.
    [/QUOTE]

    And just thank whoever-you-believe-in that Rosa didn’t get attacked as many times as you have repeatedly assaulted the forum, posting about that same exact incident here…..
  • #24017

    shaunmw87
    Member
  • #228212

    celso
    Member

    [QUOTE=Solteropolitano] So what’s to keep the same crew¬†from scoping out the next door neighbors, two big dogs and a perhaps occasionally inattentive caseiro or not? Karma indeed. Isn’t it¬†unseemly to gloat over the misfortunes of others, ’cause what goes around often comes around? A banho das folhas might be in order.[/QUOTE]
    . Since I don’t have a constant stream of druggies partying at my house and a 40,000 reais sound system that one can hear from a half mile away, I ‘m at low risk.
    Of course in th NE if a group of men decide to attack a house, they can do it. Very common. A group of crimals looting a criminal’s house. No worries.
    Amazing how much empathy you have for a human trafficker. He has enemies and uses a bodyguard. He has ties to organized crime. His Rottweilers nearly died of hunger. Proven animal abuser. He told me my gf’s baby could go to hell when I complained about the noise. Clearly a coke head and ecstasy abuser.
    From Fiddler on the Roof, child asks grandfather to toast to the tsar. “May God bless him and keep him far away from us.”. He is a Brazilian and lives in Salvador. A true solteropolitano.
    Karma? Sure! Actions leading to cause and effect with or without God’s help. Fits just fine here.
    This article is about the Indian religious concept. For other uses, see Karma (disambiguation).
    “Karmic” redirects here. For Ubuntu v9.10 “Karmic Koala”, see List of Ubuntu releases#Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala). For the EP by Nada Surf, see Karmic (EP).
    “Kharma” redirects here. For the professional wrestler, see Kia Stevens.
    Karma (Sanskrit: कर्म IPA:¬†[ˈkərmə]¬†( listen);[1] Pali: kamma) in Indian religions is the concept of “action” or “deed”, understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect (i.e., the cycle called saṃsāra) originating in ancient India and treated in the Hindu, Jain, Buddhist, and Sikh religions.[2]
    Contents  [hide] 
    1 Origins
    2 Views
    3 In the Indian religions
    3.1 Hinduism
    3.2 Sikhism
    3.3 Buddhism
    3.4 Jainism
    4 In Falun Gong
    5 Western interpretation
    6 Spiritism
    7 New Age and Theosophy
    8 Karma and emotions
    9 See also
    10 References
    11 External links
    Origins
    A concept of karma (along with samsara and moksha) may originate in the shramana tradition of which Buddhism and Jainism are continuations. This tradition influenced the Brahmanic religion in the early Vedantic (Upanishadic) movement of the 1st millennium BC. This worldview was adopted from this religious culture by Brahmin orthodoxy, and Brahmins wrote the earliest recorded scriptures containing these ideas in the early Upanishads. Until recently, the scholarly consensus was that reincarnation is absent from the earliest strata of Brahminical literature. However, a new translation of two stanzas of the Rig Veda indicate that the Brahmins may have had the idea, common among small-scale societies around the world, that an individual cycles back and forth between the earth and a heavenly realm of ancestors. In this worldview, moral behavior has no influence on rebirth. The idea that the moral quality of one’s actions influences one’s rebirth is absent from India until the period of the shramana religions, and the Brahmins appear to have adopted this idea from other religious groups.[3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12]
    Views
    Some traditions (i.e., the Vedanta), believe that a supreme being plays some kind of role, for example, as the dispenser of the ‘fruits’ of karma[13] or as exercising the option to change one’s karma in rare instances. In general, followers of Buddhism and many followers of Hinduism consider the natural laws of causation sufficient to explain the effects of karma.[14][15][16] Another view holds that a Sadguru, acting on a god’s behalf, can mitigate or work out some of the karma of the disciple.[17][18][19] And according to the Jainism perspective, neither a god nor a guru have any role in a person’s karma‚Äîthe individual is considered to be the sole doer and enjoyer of his karmas and their ‘fruits’. Laws of karma are codified in some books.[20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27]
    In the Indian religions
    Hinduism
    Main article: Karma in Hinduism
    Many Hindus see God’s direct involvement in this process; others consider the natural laws of causation sufficient to explain the effects of karma.[28][29][30] Followers of Vedanta consider Ishvara, a personal supreme God, as playing a role in the delivery of karma. Theistic schools of Hinduism such as Vedanta thus disagree with the Buddhist and Jain views and other Hindu views that karma is merely a law of cause and effect but rather is also dependent on the will of a personal supreme God. A summary of this theistic view of karma is expressed by the following: “God does not make one suffer for no reason nor does He make one happy for no reason. God is very fair and gives you exactly what you deserve.”[31]
    Karma is not punishment or retribution but simply an extended expression or consequence of natural acts. Karma means “deed” or “act” and more broadly names the universal principle of cause and effect, action and reaction, that governs all life. The effects experienced are also able to be mitigated by actions and are not necessarily fated. That is to say, a particular action now is not binding to some particular, pre-determined future experience or reaction; it is not a simple, one-to-one correspondence of reward or punishment.
    Karma is not fate, for humans act with free will creating their own destiny. According to the Vedas, if one sows goodness, one will reap goodness; if one sows evil, one will reap evil. Karma refers to the totality of our actions and their concomitant reactions in this and previous lives, all of which determines our future. The conquest of karma lies in intelligent action and dispassionate response.
    One of the first and most dramatic illustrations of Karma can be found in the Bhagavad Gita. In this poem, Arjuna the protagonist is preparing for battle when he realizes that the enemy consists of members of his own family and decides not to fight. His charioteer, Krishna (an avatar of god), explains to Arjuna the concept of dharma (duty) among other things and makes him see that it is his duty to fight. The original Hindu concept of karma was later enhanced by several other movements within the religion, most notably Vedanta, and Tantra.
    In this way, so long as the stock of Sanchita karma lasts, a part of it continues to be taken out as Prarabdha karma for being experienced in one lifetime, leading to the cycle of birth and death. A jiva cannot attain moksha until the accumulated sanchita karmas are completely exhausted.[32]
    Sikhism
    In Sikhism, all living beings are described as being under the influence of maya’s three qualities. Always present together in varying mix and degrees, these three qualities of maya bind the soul to the body and to the earth plane. Above these three qualities is the eternal time. Due to the influence of three modes of Maya’s nature, jivas (individual beings) perform activities under the control and purview of the eternal time. These activities are called “karma”. The underlying principle is that karma is the law that brings back the results of actions to the person performing them.
    This life is likened to a field in which our karma is the seed. We harvest exactly what we sow; no less, no more. This infallible law of karma holds everyone responsible for what the person is or is going to be. Based on the total sum of past karma, some feel close to the Pure Being in this life and others feel separated. This is the Gurbani’s (Sri Guru Granth Sahib) law of karma. Like other Indian and oriental schools of thought, the Gurbani also accepts the doctrines of karma and reincarnation as the facts of nature.[33]
    Buddhism
    Main article: Karma in Buddhism
    In Buddhism, karma (Pāli kamma) is strictly distinguished from vipāka, meaning “fruit” or “result”. Karma is categorized within the group or groups of cause (Pāli hetu) in the chain of cause and effect, where it comprises the elements of “volitional activities” (Pali sankhara) and “action” (Pali bhava). Any action is understood as creating “seeds” in the mind that will sprout into the appropriate result (Pāli vipaka) when met with the right conditions. Most types of karmas, with good or bad results, will keep one within the wheel of samsāra, while others will liberate one to nirvāna.[citation needed]
    Karma is one of five categories of causation, known collectively as niyama dhammas, the first being kamma, and the other four being utu (seasons and weather), bīja (heredity, lit. “seed”), chitta (mind) and dhamma (law, in the sense of nature’s tendency to perfect).
    Jainism
    Main article: Karma in Jainism
    See also: Types of Karma (Jainism) and Causes of Karma (Jainism)
    In Jainism, “karma” conveys a totally different meaning from that commonly understood in Hindu philosophy and western civilization.[34] In Jainism, karma is referred to as karmic dirt, as it consists of very subtle and microscopic particles (pudgala) that pervade the entire universe.[35] Karmas are attracted to the karmic field of a soul due to vibrations created by activities of mind, speech, and body as well as various mental dispositions. Hence the karmas are the subtle matter surrounding the consciousness of a soul. When these two components (consciousness and karma) interact, we experience the life we know at present.
    Herman Kuhn, quoting from Tattvarthasutra, describes karmas as “a mechanism that makes us thoroughly experience the themes of our life until we gained optimal knowledge from them and until our emotional attachment to these themes falls off.”[34]
    According to Padmanabh Jaini,
    [T]his emphasis on reaping the fruits only of one’s own karma was not restricted to the Jainas; both Hindus and Buddhist writers have produced doctrinal materials stressing the same point. Each of the latter traditions, however, developed practices in basic contradiction to such belief. In addition to shrardha (the ritual Hindu offerings by the son of deceased), we find among Hindus widespread adherence to the notion of divine intervention in ones fate, while Buddhists eventually came to propound such theories like boon-granting bodhisattvas, transfer of merit and like. Only Jainas have been absolutely unwilling to allow such ideas to penetrate their community, despite the fact that there must have been tremendous amount of social pressure on them to do so.[36]
    The key points where the theory of Karma in Jainism differs from the other religions such as theistic traditions of Hinduism, can be stated as follows:
    Karma operates as a self-sustaining mechanism as natural universal law, without any need of an external entity to manage them. (absence of the exogenous “Divine Entity” in Jainism)
    Jainism advocates that a soul’s karma changes even with the thoughts, and not just the actions. Thus, to even think evil of someone would endure a karma-bandha or an increment in bad karma. For this reason, the Ratnatraya gives a very strong emphasis to samyak dhyan (rationality in thoughts) and “samyak darshan” (rationality in perception) and not just “samyak charitra” (rationality in conduct).
    In Jain theology, a soul is released of worldly affairs as soon as it is able to emancipate from the “karm-bandh”. A famous illustration is that of Marudevi, the mother of Rishabha, the first Tirthankara of the present time cycle, who reached such emancipation by elevating sequentially her thought processes, while she was visiting her Tirthankara son.[37] This illustration explains how nirvana and moksha are different than in other religions of India. In the presence of a Tirthankara, another soul achieved Kevala Jnana and subsequently nirvana, without any need of intervention by the Tirthankara.[37]
    The karmic theory in Jainism operates endogenously. Tirthankaras are not attributed “godhood”. Thus, even the Tirthankaras themselves have to go through the stages of emancipation, for attaining that state. While Buddhism does give a similar and to some extent a matching account for Gautama Buddha, Hinduism maintains a totally different theory where “divine grace” is needed for emancipation.
    Jainism treats all souls equally, inasmuch as it advocates that all souls have the same potential of attaining nirvana. Only those who make effort, really attain it, but nonetheless, each soul is capable on its own to do so by gradually reducing its karma.[38]
    In Falun Gong
    Falun Gong differs from Buddhism in its definition of the term “karma,” Ownby says, in that it is taken not as a process of award and punishment, but as an exclusively negative term. The Chinese term “de” or “virtue” is reserved for what might otherwise be termed “good karma” in Buddhism. Karma is understood as the source of all suffering – what Buddhism might refer to as “bad Karma”. Li says “A person has done bad things over his many lifetimes, and for people this results in misfortune, or for cultivators it’s karmic obstacles, so there’s birth, aging, sickness, and death. This is ordinary karma.”[39]
    Falun Gong teaches that the spirit is locked in the cycle of rebirth, also known as samsara[40] due to the accumulation of karma.[41] This is a negative, black substance that accumulates in other dimensions lifetime after lifetime, by doing bad deeds and thinking bad thoughts. Falun Gong states that karma is the reason for suffering, and what ultimately blocks people from the truth of the universe and attaining enlightenment. At the same time, is also the cause of ones continued rebirth and suffering.[41] Li says that due to accumulation of karma the human spirit upon death will reincarnate over and over again, until the karma is paid off or eliminated through cultivation, or the person is destroyed due to the bad deeds he has done.[41]
    Ownby regards the concept of karma as a cornerstone to individual moral behaviour in Falun Gong, and also readily traceable to the Christian doctrine of “one reaps what one sows”. Others say Matthew 5:44 means no unbeliever will not fully reap what they sow until they are Judged by God after death in Hell. Ownby says Falun Gong is differentiated by a “system of transmigration” though, “in which each organism is the reincarnation of a previous life form, its current form having been determined by karmic calculation of the moral qualities of the previous lives lived.” Ownby says the seeming unfairness of manifest inequities can then be explained, at the same time allowing a space for moral behaviour in spite of them.[39] In the same vein of Li’s monism, matter and spirit are one, karma is identified as a black substance which must be purged in the process of cultivation.[39]
    Li says that “Human beings all fell here from the many dimensions of the universe. They no longer met the requirements of the Fa at their given levels in the universe, and thus had to drop down. Just as we have said before, the heavier one’s mortal attachments, the further down one drops, with the descent continuing until one arrives at the state of ordinary human beings.” He says that in the eyes of higher beings, the purpose of human life is not merely to be human, but to awaken quickly on Earth, a “setting of delusion”, and return. “That is what they really have in mind; they are opening a door for you. Those who fail to return will have no choice but to reincarnate, with this continuing until they amass a huge amount of karma and are destroyed.”[42]
    Ownby regards this as the basis for Falun Gong’s apparent “opposition to practitioners’ taking medicine when ill; they are missing an opportunity to work off karma by allowing an illness to run its course (suffering depletes karma) or to fight the illness through cultivation.” Penny shares this interpretation. Since Li believes that “karma is the primary factor that causes sickness in people”, Penny asks: “if disease comes from karma and karma can be eradicated through cultivation of xinxing, then what good will medicine do?”[43] Li himself states that he is not forbidding practitioners from taking medicine, maintaining that “What I’m doing is telling people the relationship between practicing cultivation and medicine-taking”. Li also states that “An everyday person needs to take medicine when he gets sick.”[44] Schechter quotes a Falun Gong student who says “It is always an individual choice whether one should take medicine or not.”[45]
    Western interpretation
    It Shoots Further Than He Dreams by John F. Knott, March 1918.
    Many Western cultures have notions similar to karma, as demonstrated in the phrase what goes around comes around.[46] Christian expressions similar to karma include reap what one sows (Galatians 6:7), violence begets violence and live by the sword, die by the sword.[47] In Hinduism, God plays a role and is seen as a dispenser of its version of karma. The non-interventionist view is that of Jainism and Buddhism, the latter originally a non-theist religion.
    Spiritism
    Main article: Spiritist doctrine
    In Spiritism, karma is known as “the law of cause and effect”, and plays a central role in determining how one’s life should be lived. Spirits are encouraged to choose how (and when) to suffer retribution for the wrong they did in previous lives. How we know of this without remembering we had the choice is ambiguous. Disabilities, physical or mental impairment or even an unlucky life are due to the choices a spirit makes before reincarnating (that is, before being born to a new life).
    What sets Spiritism apart from the more traditional religious views is that it understands karma as a condition inherent to the spirit, whether incarnated or not: the consequences of the crimes committed by the spirit last beyond the physical life and cause him (moral) pain in the afterlife. The choice of a life of hardships is, therefore, a way to rid oneself of the pain caused by moral guilt and to perfect qualities that are necessary for the spirit to progress to a higher form.
    Because Spiritism always accepted the plurality of inhabited worlds, its concept of karma became considerably complex. There are worlds that are “primitive” (in the sense that they are home to spirits newly born and still very low on intellect and morals) and a succession of more and more advanced worlds to where spirits move as they are elevated. A spirit may choose to be born on a world inferior to his own as a penance or as a mission.
    New Age and Theosophy
    The idea of karma was popularized in the Western world through the work of the Theosophical Society. In this conception, karma was a precursor to the Neopagan law of return or Threefold Law, the idea that the beneficial or harmful effects one has on the world will return to oneself. Colloquially this may be summed up as ‘what goes around comes around.’
    The Theosophist I. K. Taimni wrote that “Karma is nothing but the Law of Cause and Effect operating in the realm of human life and bringing about adjustments between an individual and other individuals whom he has affected by his thoughts, emotions and actions.”[48] Theosophy also teaches that when humans reincarnate they come back as humans only, not as animals or other organisms.[49]
    In the west, karma is often confused with concepts such as the soul, psychic energy, synchronicity (a concept originally from psychoanalyst Carl Jung, which says that things that happen at the same time are related), and ideas from quantum or theoretical physics (which most physicists would not grant as having any bearing on morality or codes of conduct, much less on supernatural notions). This mishmash of word associations is well illustrated by the once-common bumper sticker “My karma ran over your dogma.”
    Karma and emotions
    The modern view of karma, devoid of any spiritual exigencies, obviates the need for an acceptance of reincarnation in Judeochristian societies and attempts to portray karma as a universal psychological phenomenon which behaves predictably, like other physical forces such as gravity.
    Sakyong Mipham eloquently summed this up when he said;
    Like gravity, karma is so basic we often don’t even notice it.[50]
    This view of karma, as a universal and personally impacting emotional constant, correlates with Buddhist and Jungian understanding that volition (or libido, created from personal and cultural biases) is the primary instigator of karma. Any conscious thought, word and/or action, arising from a cognitively unresolved emotion (cognitive dissonance), results in karma.[51]
    Jung once opined on unresolved emotions and the synchronicity of karma;
    ‘When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate.'[52]
    Popular methods for negating cognitive dissonance include meditation, metacognition, counselling, psychoanalysis, etc., whose aim is to enhance emotional self-awareness and thus avoid negative karma. This results in better emotional hygiene and reduced karmic impacts.[53] Permanent neuronal changes within the amygdala and left prefrontal cortex of the human brain attributed to long-term meditation and metacognition techniques have been proven scientifically.[54] This process of emotional maturation aspires to a goal of Individuation or self-actualisation. Such peak experience are hypothetically devoid of any karma (nirvana).
    As Rabindranath Tagore most eloquently explained about the heat of human emotions;
    Nirvana is not the blowing out of the candle. It is the extinguishing of the flame because day is come[55]
    See also
    Spirituality portal
    Adrsta
    Amor fati
    Anantarika-karma
    Causes of Karma
    Consequentialism
    Destiny
    Dharma
    Ethic of reciprocity
    Ho’oponopono (Karma section)
    Just-world hypothesis
    Karma (2008 film)
    Karma in Buddhism
    Karma in Hinduism
    Karma in Jainism
    Karma yoga
    Moksha
    Nishkam Karma
    Samsara
    Self-fulfilling prophecy
    Types of Karma
    Unintended consequence
    Work (Christian theology)
    References
    ^ kárman‚Äî”act, action, performance”‚Äîa neuter n-stem, nominative kárma कर्म ; from the root √kṛ ¬†which means “to do, make, perform, accomplish, cause, effect, prepare, undertake”
    ^ Parvesh Singla. The Manual of Life – Karma. Parvesh singla. pp. 5–. GGKEY:0XFSARN29ZZ. Retrieved 4 June 2011.
    ^ Joanna Jurewicz, The Rigveda, ‘small scale’ societies and rebirth eschatology
    ^ Gananath Obeyesekere, Imagining Karma: Ethical Transformation in Amerindian, Buddhist, and Greek Rebirth University of California Press, 2002, passim, see in particular page 99.
    ^ Y. Masih (2000) In : A Comparative Study of Religions, Motilal Banarsidass Publ : Delhi, ISBN 81-208-0815-0, page 37: “This confirms that the doctrine of transmigration is non-aryan and was accepted by non-vedics like Ajivikism, Jainism and Buddhism. The Indo-aryans have borrowed the theory of re-birth after coming in contact with the aboriginal inhabitants of India. Certainly Jainism and non-vedics [..] accepted the doctrine of rebirth as supreme postulate or article of faith.”
    ^ Karel Werner, The Longhaired Sage in The Yogi and the Mystic. Karel Werner, ed., Curzon Press, 1989, page 34. “Rahurkar speaks of them as belonging to two distinct ‘cultural strands’ … Wayman also found evidence for two distinct approaches to the spiritual dimension in ancient India and calls them the traditions of ‘truth and silence.’ He traces them particularly in the older Upanishads, in early Buddhism, and in some later literature.”
    ^ Gavin D. Flood (1996), An Introduction to Hinduism, Cambridge University Press: UK ISBN 0-521-43878-0 – “The origin and doctrine of Karma and Samsara are obscure. These concepts were certainly circulating amongst sramanas, and Jainism and Buddhism developed specific and sophisticated ideas about the process of transmigration. It is very possible that the karmas and reincarnation entered the mainstream brahaminical thought from the sramana or the renouncer traditions.” Page 86.
    ^ Padmanabh S. Jaini 2001 ‚ÄúCollected Paper on Buddhist Studies‚Äù Motilal Banarsidass Publ 576 pages ISBN 81-208-1776-1: “Yajnavalkya‚Äôs reluctance and manner in expounding the doctrine of karma in the assembly of Janaka (a reluctance not shown on any other occasion) can perhaps be explained by the assumption that it was, like that of the transmigration of soul, of non-brahmanical origin. In view of the fact that this doctrine is emblazoned on almost every page of sramana scriptures, it is highly probable that it was derived from them.” Page 51.
    ^ Govind Chandra Pande, (1994) Life and Thought of Sankaracarya, Motilal Banarsidass ISBN 81-208-1104-6 : Early Upanishad thinkers like Yajnavalkya were acquainted with the sramanic thinking and tried to incorporate these ideals of Karma, Samsara and Moksa into the vedic thought implying a disparagement of the vedic ritualism and recognising the mendicancy as an ideal. Page 135.
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