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  • #208787

    CatClaice
    Member

    Hi I this is my first post. Ok so I met this Brazilian girl Online about 4 months ago we have been talking every day since then. I want to go to brazil in about 3 months and meet her but I’m kinda scared I’ve never been to brazil or any other country . She knows I don’t make a lot of money and I just got out of college so it’s going to be a few months till I can meet her face to face but we have talked on facebook and skype every day she wants me to live with her and I told her I wouldnt mind staying with her . I plan on staying in brazil for a month . What do you guys think ? she lives in Angra dos Reis has anyone been there or know anything about it? Me and her have a lot in common so I hope I’m making a good choice in going all the why to brazil to meet her . Please any questions for me and advice thank you
    p.s I’m 24 from California USA

  • #208847

    CatClaice
    Member

    Thanks for the advice . I have started learning Portuguese for a few months now. I can say a few word and understand a little bit. One of my best friends is getting married to A brazilian girl she has been helping me . There going out there around the same time so he can meet her family. And she’s from sao paulo. One thing I’m worried about is if I stay at a hotel she might see that as being rude since she has offered for me to stay at he house . Are brazilin woman that much different then any other type of girl ? should I be worried that she just out to rob me when I get there? She has told me so much about her city the beaches and Bars and she knows I am not rich I mean she even told me just to fly there and live with her and not to worry about bringing a dime she just wants me with her. So I dont know can you give me some good reasons not to trust her?

  • #208851

    graham
    Participant

    How did you discover this Gringoes forum?
    I like your post, Lucky. Life’s an adventure; enjoy the rush. I’ve done that, and I’m still living. But,
    Frank4000’s advice is very good, especially for your first time in Brasil. IMO, all first time visitors to Brasil need a trusted guide/host, unless they travel with an entourage. And caution, certainly with the visit you consider, is well advised.
    Do you trust your on-line friend? Are you right? If someone is lying or sincere, how do you know? Who can say? Brasilians in general are very good at little schemes (sometimes harmless, sometimes serious sh*t), but many are honest and sincere.
    That said, risk what you will, but always have a way out planned…
    Bare essentials: a credit card, a phone number you can call in Brasil if you need help (assuming you know how to use the phones here), a healthy and cautious attitude with attention to everything, and finally, a sense of adventure knowing anything might happen – good or bad. You should definately always be aware of your surroundings. Brasil is great fun, but it is very much a place where you need to know where and where not to go and when and when not to be in certain places off the beaten track.
    Life’s a risk and fun when it works, but it is also worthwhile to give careful heed to Frank’s list, with one exception: Sao Paulo is the last place you want to land and get lost in Brasil. I would suggest a meeting instead in somewhere like Parati (google it). It is romantic, a tourist place, not far from Angra, and you can probably get a bus their from the airport in Rio. It is a little more expensive, but maybe while you save, it will give you time to plan your trip well.
    At 24, you still got a lot of living to do. The best plan is to take it slow to let fun flow. Ha! I throw in bad rhyme in case your post is a sleeper.
    ?: Am I lying and is this all B.S., or is it the truth?
    Boa sorte.Grads2012-04-27 15:46:57

  • #208867

    graham
    Participant

    Oiii, frank4000. Ya caught me talking short of all the facts.
    IMO, Sao Paulo is a fascinating city and there is much to do, especially when one has native guides. Weekend walks in Ibrapueira are very fun, as are so many other things to do. Some people just don’t like Sampa -it is huge to the point of overwhelming, but it is also an amazing rat race and full of a unique energy. I have spent and still spend a lot of my life in Brasil there.
    “Going down to Santos” -or back- can be a problem around holidays, but it is not bad if one can make the drive during an off period. If one has the time, the beaches up the coast from Santos and Guaruja are definately worth the trip along a very beautiful coastal drive towards Ubatuba.
    Women are women; men are men, and it is hard to keep one’s eyes from oogling a lot of the Brasileiras. Compared to US girls, even from CA, Brasileiras are hotter and more open, no doubt. Good to be discrete, but still give them the attention which they obviously dress to receive. There is jealousy here, but good manners can keep things in place. Always remember this: Don’t forget to lavish the one you are with first. Portugues is filled with love euphemisms, like my heart, love of my life, love, dear, etc. If Lucky really finds that he IS lucky with his new aquaintace, he should get his friends to teach him local language of love. This helps, no?
    Relax and enjoy is the best advice, for sure. Devagar, devagar, which can take many gringos a long time to master. It can be a very enjoyable endeavor, here in Brasil.Grads2012-04-27 19:19:45

  • #208878

    CatClaice
    Member

    Thanks Guys I have a lot to think about but I am ready for this trip I can’t wait to go to brazil. I want to go for at lease a month so hopefully this girl is not Playing me lol

  • #208927

    RBtee
    Member

    As a backup plan…do your research on hostels (as opposed to Hotels). If sh*t goes south at least you’ll be able to have some fun with fellow travelers in a monster city like SP.

  • #208930

    CatClaice
    Member

    I plan on going to Rio dose an one know any chep hostels there ? I have another question how Much money do ou guy think I should have before I go to brazil for a month? And I don’t want to live rich by no means just have a good time, eat cheap go out to a bar a few times a week,chill on the beach meet some cool people thats it I was thinking between $1500-3000. what do you guy think?

  • #209066

    CatClaice
    Member

    Ok I found out where she lives it’s rua paulo sodre da nobrega, Frade, Angra dos Reis dose anyone know where this is or has anyone been there? I would like to know more about this place is it safe ? Is there a fun night life? I can’t find out anything about this place online besides thers a golf course . thanks guys

  • #209257

    kater832
    Member

    So, Frade is a really small neighboorhood in Angra. It’s not poor, but is not rich, and is really beautiful as everything in Angra.
    I’m not sure if they have a night life there, but in downtown they do, so don’t worry about that. Oh! But you’ll need a car/bus to get there.
    So, I think if she gave you her adress, she’s probably a good girl! In Brazil as everywhere in the world we have bad people with bad intetions! I hope this is not your case, man! I bet she’s as scared as you!

  • #209258

    CatClaice
    Member

    Thanks Mell What else do you know about this area ? what is there to do there? how are people there and the food ? any advice ?

  • #209261

    Angra is generally used by foreign travellers as a jumping off point (ferry) for Abrao on Ilha Grande, an island known for nature and beaches. Lots of tourists pass through there. Lots of info on the internet; do a search. Or/and buy a good guidebook, some of which might have a listing of accomodations. I wouldn’t stay with her (at least not from the start), not only because of safety (what has not been stated outright here, though, are incidents of gringos being robbed, or worse, because they were too trusting), but because you might not be comfortable with conditions (for example, maybe not even as comfortable as rough tent camping in the U.S., and spoken from lots of experience in lots of situations) in the house of a poorer Brazilian. (She herself may not realize this.) She should not find this rude. After all, you are a ‘weird gringo’ and will never quite escape it, ever. The charming, historic Colonial town of Paraty is not far away (in the direction of Sao Paulo). You, as a tourist, could visit there as well, see the town, take a boat ride to Trindade beach,…… either before, after or during your visit to see this woman. I’d arrange to fly into Rio (much shorter bus ride to Angra), not Sao Paulo (usually same fare from U.S.), and take the bus to Angra, maybe after a few days as a tourist in Rio getting over jetlag and a bit adjusted to the country. Here’s some info on the bus to Angra (and Ilha Grande): http://www.paratybrasil.com.br/transporte/horario.htmhttp://www.ilhagrande.org/Chegando-Onibus…in Portuguese. Get used to it. Hardly anyone speaks any English. (This one in English:) http://www.ilhagrande.com.ar/singlepage.php?id=36Here’s a map. (Rio itself is off, to the right.) http://www.mapas-sp.com/litoral-sp.htmSome good Rio info: http://www.ipanema.comGood luck.

  • #209279

    Pedro
    Member

    [QUOTE=frank4000]I would suggest you slow your horse there John Wayne. First off.
    1A. Use common sense. Rio is a risky place man.
    1.Do you know other people in Brasil?
    2.Do research on the city your going too.
    3.Stay in a hotel separately.
    4.meeting her at a safe place like a mall.
    5.Does she travel? You possibly meet in a neutral country or part of Brasil for example FLoripa.
    6.Bring a nice gift.
    7.Do you know which neighbourhood she lives?
    8.Do you speak portugues? If not I suggest you start learning.
    This is just to start. Take the chance but plan well and use common sense. You should suggest a meetup in a place like sao paulo. Accomodations there in my opinion are better in term price and access to everything for the cost concerned.
    aproveita[/QUOTE]

    Nice advice Frank..
  • #209280

    Pedro
    Member

    [QUOTE=Lucky711]Hi I this is my first post. Ok so I met this Brazilian girl Online about 4 months ago we have been talking every day since then. I want to go to brazil in about 3 months and meet her but I’m kinda scared I’ve never been to brazil or any other country . She knows I don’t make a lot of money and I just got out of college so it’s going to be a few months till I can meet her face to face but we have talked on facebook and skype every day she wants me to live with her and I told her I wouldnt mind staying with her . I plan on staying in brazil for a month . What do you guys think ? she lives in Angra dos Reis has anyone been there or know anything about it? Me and her have a lot in common so I hope I’m making a good choice in going all the why to brazil to meet her . Please any questions for me and advice thank you
    p.s I’m 24 from California USA [/QUOTE]

    Be VERY careful and stay within the confounds of your hotel most of the time. Even if you think she is the most amazing girl on the planet, it doesnt matter, stay cool and be safe.
    It doesnt matter aswell if you have said you dont have money, to many Brazilians americans and foreigners are all millionaires we all have a machine in our garages that prints 100 dollar bills, BE VERY CAREFUL!
    She probably doesnt believe you, even if you have told her that you dont have much money. The only way is to meet face to face and talk, a month wont be long enough but its a start.
    I am not trying to throw cold water on your plans, all i am saying is be very careful, you dont know the person yet in real life, just treat it like any holiday and you are very young to come here alone. Having said that i was about your age when i first travelled here but i knew the girl before hand and we dated in London for about a year before i travelled here to see the place and meet her family.
    Stay in your hotel most of the time and dont venture too far and ask the advice at the Hotel Reception on where to go and if its safe.

    Amsterdam2012-05-03 13:42:12

  • #209307

    CatClaice
    Member

    thanks Frank. And no I’m not blond lol but I do have tattoos and there in english lol . Also I don’t know how the locals dress so I’m most likely going to be seen as a tourist. I where regular T shirts and nikes or jordans shorts and fitted baseball hats .Also I don’t speak or understand Portuguese well so It’s going to be hard to not speak some english around the locals . But I’ll try lol

  • #209327

    It doesn’t matter how you dress. A gringo stands out by the way he looks anyway: walk, gestures, haircut, manner of looking at others, etc. Young guys at beachside villages like Angra might wear surf shorts (Billabong, Quicksilver are popular in Rio and elsewhere), T-shirt (no text, esp, not in English) and flip flops. Baseball caps, especially a soft nylon type sold in Brazil, are pretty common (at least where we are). The locals may also have tattoos in English—but that’s the only English you’re likely to see or hear. Shocked“hard not to speak English around the locals”?? So do you think the “ugly American” way of speaking slowly and loudly is supposed to get through to them then? Learn Portuguese. Or at least learn to look words up quickly in your dictionary. Get ready to gesture a lot. Rent a film in Portuguese from Netflix and understand a bit of what it feels like to not understand 99% of what people say. I imagine you’ll find it very tiring, even after 2 hours of film, let alone weeks of stay. And realize it’ll be 24/7 while you’re there trying to communicate with this woman. Long comfortable or uncomfortable silences?

  • #209333

    Pedro
    Member

    Yes basically walk with your head down and swagger abit like you dont give a monkeys, you should get by..LOL

    And if someone talks to you, just answer with Urrghh? whilst rocking your head upwards LOL
  • #209354

    hoganti
    Member

    it’s ok to wear shirts with english words on them….as long as the words don’t form any sentences or make sense in any way. hell, go shopping for a bunch of gringo word shirts and you’ll blend right in

  • #209368

    GringoBahia
    Member

    People make such a huge deal about the “looking like a gringo thing” its weird.
    I mean, I get the clothes and stuff…but otherwise just be relaxed and you should be alright. Don’t be uptight and seem scared…that would scream Gringo.

  • #209369

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=jess]”hard not to speak English around the locals”?? So do you think the “ugly American” way of speaking slowly and loudly is supposed to get through to them then? Learn Portuguese.[/QUOTE]
    You are so tiresome.
    I’ve literally been all over the world. I’ve never seen anyone do what you described. And maybe you’re some kind of genius because you say “Learn Portuguese” like it’s an easy thing to do. Portuguese is my 5th language, how many do you have?

  • #209408

    CatClaice
    Member

    Thanks everyone I am trying to learn Portuguese I have A few movies in portuguese ,some music from pandora, a few books on how to learn portuguese and mp3s I listen to , I also use livemoca.com but I still think Its going to take me staying in Brazil for a few months to even start understanding Portuguese

  • #209416

    RioVida
    Member

    Good luck with your adventure. I just finished a class in Portuguese and was very helpful… but I did believe once you are around it more the language will become easier for you. You are a gringo nothing wrong with that…LOL If you are hiding from something I could see you wanting to be “borg-like’ just enjoy yourself… Please do be careful and be watchful.

  • #209420

    [QUOTE=TarkInBrazil] [QUOTE=jess]”hard not to speak English around the locals”?? So do you think the “ugly American” way of speaking slowly and loudly is supposed to get through to them then? Learn Portuguese.[/QUOTE]
    I’ve literally been all over the world. I’ve never seen anyone do what you described. And maybe you’re some kind of genius because you say “Learn Portuguese” like it’s an easy thing to do. Portuguese is my 5th language, how many do you have?
    [/QUOTE] I speak six fluently (raised with 3, others from living in country, more than one with ‘alternate alphabet’), as a matter of fact, and there are few more I can get by in pretty well, to understand an academic/technical text or travel conversing simply with locals. I feel more of a personal affinity to a couple of them, Portuguese being one. And before you get further bent out of shape over any statement (if you find me tiresome, please simply ignore my posts), let me just say that this OP appears from his posts to be fairly inexperienced with international travel to a country where he may not be able to make himself understood, even for basic needs, nor to understand most locals. Different from a casual tourist who can gesture for a few days, resort to a basic phrase book, and probably pay more for many things, he is planning to be here for a longer time, living among locals and trying to form relationships. I don’t think he has any idea of how burdensome the language ‘gap’ can get to be, particularly 24/7 as time passes, especially given the sentence quoted. I don’t think he has a good idea of what a conversational exchange in which neither person understands the language of the other might actually be like, nor does it seem he is well prepared for this constant. I fully understand how difficult most people (especially U.S. single language speakers not widely exposed to other cultures, or for that matter, Brazilians in the same situation) find learning a second language, although you may agree that Portuguese is not among the most difficult. Under the circumstances, the OP should clearly understand the importance and urgency, though. Simply that.

  • #209498

    CatClaice
    Member

    Thanks Frank I just got it yesterday . I hope it helps lol

  • #209780

    Cici
    Member

    [QUOTE=jess]

    The locals may also have tattoos in English—but that’s the only English you’re likely to see or hear.

    [/QUOTE]
    Saw one just yesterday, Flamengo badge tattooed on the neck with “Simpy the Best” tattooed below! Poor guy, totally oblivious . Tattoos spelt correctly in english could identify you as gringo

  • #210178

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=TarkInBrazil] Portuguese is my 5th language, how many do you have?
    [/QUOTE]
    Tark, Expat, Kurtz, Cu-ra, Ray:
    He’s BBBAAAAAACCCCCKKK !!!
    Tark, Expat, Kurtz, Cu-ra, Ray: I have seen what jess is talking about. And yes, I have travelled around myself. Yes, Asians are the same in Europe as in everywhere else with there clicky cameras.
    As far as portuguese goes, it all depends on desire, will and method. Oh, and IQ seems to help too. Maybe this chap is really smart. If so, then it would be easy to learn.

  • #210181

    Gilmour
    Member

    Lucky, if it doesn’t work out with the woman, pass her details to Rio-Fortaleza-Newf. Here’s his last girlfriend:

    spongebob2012-05-10 12:49:23

  • #210186

    CatClaice
    Member

    that is scary

  • #210919

    CatClaice
    Member

    Whats up Frank ? Just getting ready for my trip to beautiful brazil I got a few more months to get ready and trying to learn as much as I can before I go lol

  • #211023

    CatClaice
    Member

    thanks Frank me too

  • #211041

    Gilmour
    Member

    Lucky, I hope it works out… I was thinking last night how I know “of” so many Brazilian women who are desperate to find guys. They have a very tough job of finding one too! Where I live there seems to be a very limited number of guys they could/would consider. They have so much competition!I would hate to be a woman here.
    Be sure to let us know how it works out. Last guy that came on here with a similar issue said he came here, saw the girl, and it didn’t work out, so he hung out in Rio. Never know. You could come here and the opposite thing happens.

  • #211065

    CatClaice
    Member

    Thanks spongebob I let you guys know how it go’s. I still got some time before I go out there just trying to learn a few more words lol. and save some more money

  • #211140

    doctorlili
    Member

    Hi Lucky711 … I just read your story, you inquiring about wanting to marry her and all. Don’t you think that is a bit fast? I’m glad for you that you have not been inundated in negativity about your girl like I have been, may be it helps you raving less about her … but there are a few things you may want to consider.
    IMO what you want to consider is not so much all that stuff about being safe in the streets and the hotel. Yeah, be safe, fine. But it is more about slowing it down. Do a reality check.
    You learned to know a girl online over Facebook? And it was love at first sight with just images and writing? She can speak English? You did Skype video conferencing was the closest you got to a real life conversation?
    Are you cool about girlfriends? I mean, do you look at this from a place and attitude of plenty and confidence? Or do you think that this is the one? And is your decision for the one based on knowing her really well and having chemistry? Or is it because she seems available to you?
    Here is a thing you might just want to know and you might know that very well and perhaps better than me. But just in case, I can’t tell from the little you write, actually being together and experiencing the person physically can make a huge difference. Hopefully an enriching positive difference, but if love emerges only from Internet only text, there is an important dimension missing. For you it may not be a problem that may be her smell does not give you the kick as much as another girl’s who you have not met. But you don’t want to get into a situation where she has any power over you and then loses interest in you. This is the worst place to be.
    There is a special check on online profile girls. Online profile people tend to have more narcissistic traits. That’s not a good thing. I’m not saying she is, just that the circumstances of your meeting raise the prior probabilities.
    And I am concerned if the talk is about marriage without even having tasted the kiss. Is she talking a lot about marriage?
    It’s all so new, so exciting. Give at least 6 to 12 months time for the first wave to ebb to see if you are really meant for each other.
    I would be much less scared about being robbed by strangers and far more concerned about marrying a financial obligation and fathering a child, and later having an unhappy wife on hand. Or may be you notice that the life style and cultural difference is really hard?
    Amor in porto sounds so sweet, and it is, but take precautions to stay in charge of your life.
    Good luck.
    PS: I’ll be down there end of June and July. Driving by Angra Dos Reis in mid July.Squiddie2012-05-23 02:42:48

  • #211231

    doctorlili
    Member

    Hey Frank, tudo bom. Trying to get a loooot of stuff organized. A bit overwhelming at times.

  • #211518

    doctorlili
    Member

    Where is Lucky’s travel thread, here or in the Getting Married section? I am looking into the situation out of curiosity. Frade is a little place behind Angra dos Reis when you come from Rio. It looks very very beautiful. The namorada lives just one block away from the beach. Now if she invited our lucky Lucky to go live in her house, why are we being scared here? This place is not Rio, not Ipanema, this place looks paradisaical. I would want to just let all this anxiety and panic about crime runn off and forget that part. Google Maps has no street view of that street unfortunately. BUT I cantell from the houses that this is not a dinky place. The homes appear rather large from the top and some have pools. There is the Hotel do Frade & Golf Resort right around the corner. This looks completely harmless. Zooming out, there is nothing far and wide that looks anything like a favela. Verdict: this is an upscale beach town. I might take a look at it myself tying to find a nice place to buy.
    Now should you take her invitation or live in a hotel? I really think you should take her invitation. But talk more first to find out. I also think that perhaps she can pick you up from the airport. If she knows the way? You can asses some things. For example, how street-smart is she? My girl always picks me up form the airport coming from zona oeste. And she can negotiate nice taxi rates. She also does bus and train and all that. If you visit your girl, let her make your arrival easier.
    No need to stop over in Rio first, hotel and all. Hang out in Frade first, relax there.
    Now, the only reason not to start out at her place is that if your trip is committed for a long time, it is harder to move out than to move in. You may well hit some rough spots with your namorada after some time, and then, moving out adds an amount of finality and drama. You may avoid that. Also, you may want to avoid the exposure to family drama. It can be stressful, you can’t really be yourself when you are guest at the in-laws. And you need to be yourself to evaluate the relationship. Else you’re all NiceGuy and that may be very accommodating and nice to her but you sell yourself out and later feel depleted.
    So, therefore, you may get a place. But not a hotel. Hotel is expensive for long term and it is not a good alternative. You have to be in Frade or else the way is too far. The one site to find temporary rentals is Aluge Temporada. What you want is a studio apartment, so she can visit you there and you can live cool, and she can go home, and you can take some time to breathe if you hit a rough spot in the relationship. But it seems that Frade has only houses, and they are fairly large and very expensive. Given the small place, you might have to move in with her right away. Still more searching you could find a studio.
    Talk with her about how she lives, parents, etc. and how large the place is. Do you have your room there or will you live in her room? Also, you might want to plan ahead some events. Like you could go on a trip to explore the country, not just hang out. This might be good experience, if you two go out and explore together. Shows how you can work as a team. And it helps if you are not the only one lost, but if she gets out of her comfort zone a little too.
    Forget about all that stuff about dressing like a local, just be yourself.Squiddie2012-05-26 15:43:22

  • #211534

    Cici
    Member

    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    Forget about all that stuff about dressing like a local. [/QUOTE]
    Disagree totally!

  • #211535

    doctorlili
    Member

    [QUOTE=IrishNatal][QUOTE=Squiddie]Forget about all that stuff about dressing like a local.[/QUOTE]
    Disagree totally![/QUOTE]
    Why? T-shirt, shorts, sandals, my normal attire anywhere it is hot. In the evening t-shirt, pants (not too baggy, she, like all women, likes to see my shape ) sandals. It’s the easiest thing in the world. I don’t even know what else to wear. Last time I brought a jacket and dress shirt and tie because I thought she might like me more formal when we go out, but it seemed not important to her, in fact, she didn’t like the wider slacks. It’s so simple, I’m not sure what the big deal is about how to dress.

  • #211545

    Denise
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie][QUOTE=IrishNatal][QUOTE=Squiddie]Forget about all that stuff about dressing like a local.[/QUOTE]
    Disagree totally![/QUOTE]
    Why? T-shirt, shorts, sandals, my normal attire anywhere it is hot. In the evening t-shirt, pants (not too baggy, she, like all women, likes to see my shape ) sandals. It’s the easiest thing in the world. I don’t even know what else to wear. Last time I brought a jacket and dress shirt and tie because I thought she might like me more formal when we go out, but it seemed not important to her, in fact, she didn’t like the wider slacks. It’s so simple, I’m not sure what the big deal is about how to dress.[/QUOTE] Second to that. There’s a group here who swears on the “blending in” idea. I can’t do that, so I just wear what is comfortable to me.

  • #211546

    CatClaice
    Member

    hey thanks frank you kinda see what im talking about ? She lives by her self and her mom lives in the same city but the rest of her family live in another state. She does have a lot of friends near by and hopfully there cool but I guess I’ll see. lol

  • #211550

    doctorlili
    Member

    Well I’m not Frank, but if there is no family and she invites you to live with her, then go for it. Go in all the way. I would have no concern in that town. Be prepared to find out you don’t work together though. I am still a bit incredulous how an online only connection can go without negative surprises. Not that it couldn’t but the risk, the unknown is high.
    To all the anxious fearful ones, just sit down and think of what kind of a set-up this could be? You are, what, 24? Just barely out of college. Do you have rich parents that could be held for ransom? If she wanted to get a sugardaddy and rip him off, she’d not pick you but middle aged business man like me , someone with a sizable income to squeeze for child support.
    This place is so far off anything, that I just can’t see how it can be some favela kids prank. The investment in renting such a place is too high for them. Unless you are someone special, you’re not worth such a complicated preparation.
    If she truly lives alone 400 m from the beach in an upscale beach town, she can’t be poor out to get a child from you for support.
    I don’t see the risk. She is by herself, no family, enjoy the ride. Just be yourself and don’t be stupid. Why don’t you say more about this, I mean, what does she say? Does she work, and where in such a small town does she work? How does she pay for the place? Is it owned by family? You can substantiate so much of her story to gain confidence. The more pieces of her story you have you can try to corroborate. Like by now you should have her cellphone number. You should be able to figure out her online availability schedule. You should text her outside of the schedule and see that you get a text back. Call her extemporaneously (without seeming needy, just naturally), that way you can see if you are stashed away in some kind of side game or if she is really interested in you all the way.
    Let her pick you up from the airport. If she lives upscale alone, she can pick you up.

  • #211553

    CatClaice
    Member

    shes picking me up lol

  • #211554

    CatClaice
    Member

    yeah she works and pays rent she in about the same boat as me her is just a better boat hahaha . I she only speaks a little English and that does worry me but I think the only way I’m going to learn Portuguese is being around it 24/7 so will see how it goes. Also all her family live in another state . she does have a lot of friend over there but from what I can tell they all seem like college kid lol party party party lets all get wasted lol

  • #211555

    doctorlili
    Member

    I don’t get it. If she only speaks a little English than how did you communicate up until now?

  • #211557

    CatClaice
    Member

    I used A translator . and practice talking with her

  • #211565

    doctorlili
    Member

    Then it’s inexcusable that you don’t speak Porto by now.

  • #211567

    graham
    Participant

    this love story…your deceit, nothing more.

  • #211569

    Gianni
    Member

    Grads, so harsh?

  • #211579

    doctorlili
    Member

    Frank, changing your mind so quickly? What happened between “go for it” and “harsh but true”?
    I for one am starting to doubt the sincerity of Lucky. His careless posting all over the map with skimpy responses, and the lack of intensity of results from his months long involvement makes me skeptical.Squiddie2012-05-27 13:36:52

  • #211580

    CatClaice
    Member

    [QUOTE=Squiddie] Then it’s inexcusable that you don’t speak Porto by now.[/QUOTE]
    how is that inexcusable that I don’t speak Portuguese by now? I have only been practicing since Feb . So I don’t think that is to long I can’t practice as much as I want to I have to go to work and live my day to day life still lol. And She a cool chick from what I can tell from her so far, I guess I will see if I still feel that way when we meet in person.

  • #211600

    Gilmour
    Member

    Lucky, you’re already in Brazil? She doesn’t speak any English? Don’t worry about the Portuguese thing. When I came here, I lived for 1,5 years, not knowing if I was going to stay or go, so Portuguese wasn’t a priority.
    Whoever said something about blending in… it’s kind of hard not to if you have lived here for many years and you have to buy clothes from the same stores as everyone else.

  • #211643

    CatClaice
    Member

    Hey Spongbob no I am not in Brazil yet a few more months till I go . And no she doss not speak alot of english. this is going to be fun hahahah

  • #211971

    evogel
    Member

    I personally would wait til you get to Brazil to meet someone……. I was only here for 2 days and met the most amazing woman…… Beautiful, sexy, intelligent, works 40 hours a week, sensual, funny, kind, and the list … does go on….. I had been browsing online for about 2-3 years off and on before I came here….. lot of wasted time and resources. But maybe she is the one you want….. and you do not have to learn protuguese….. my girl is almsot fluent in English after only studying for the past two months……so find an intelligent one =)cobrakhan52012-06-01 11:13:21

  • #211973

    hoganti
    Member

    hahaha
    my girl is almsot fluent in English after only studying for the past two months
    with a 40hr work week?
    bullsh*t

  • #211977

    evogel
    Member

    it is called multitasking….. you are a serious troll

  • #211978

    CatClaice
    Member

    I will keep everything in mind when I go out to Brazil . But for now I am just going to work my ass off so I can have a good time when I go.
    thanks everyone

  • #211985

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=cobrakhan5]
    it is called multitasking….. you are a serious troll[/QUOTE]
    or lying…..

  • #211987

    evogel
    Member

    Yes you got me … I am lying…… how did you know?

  • #214545

    CatClaice
    Member

    So I’ve been talking to my girl for months now and im still planing on going to brazil in september . The plan is still pretty much the same but I am worried that if we hit it off in person and I want to stay I will not have the money to do so . How much do you guys think it will cost to hire a later to get my paperwork ready so I could get married .

  • #219521

    Cali
    Member

    [QUOTE=Lucky711]So I’ve been talking to my girl for months now and im still planing on going to brazil in september . The plan is still pretty much the same but I am worried that if we hit it off in person and I want to stay I will not have the money to do so . How much do you guys think it will cost to hire a later to get my paperwork ready so I could get married .[/QUOTE]
    Nothing, it’s like a couple hundred bucks to hire a despachante, you don’t need a lawyer, *BUT* there are some things a despachante can’t do. These are:
    1. Getting your birth certificate authenticated by the Brazilian consulate general’s office in your home country.
    2. Getting that officially translated into Portuguese here in Brazil.
    If you do those two things before you get here, you will save a month (and potentially a pile of money going back and forth with couriers to the Brazilian consulate).

  • #219547

    Finrudd
    Participant

    What’s the going rate for a fresh kidney on ice these days?

  • #219567

    doctorlili
    Member

    Why are you still talking about marrying? And how is that related to you running out of money? It doesn’t make sense. There’s this other guy somewhere here who mentions a similar thing: like he’s got no marketable skills in Brazil and lives on (or intends to live on) the charity of his GF’s family (and the GF reportedly says she wants to be “just friends”.) This is a set-up for total failure. Even if the girl is a super girl, if you come on like a sucker attaching to her resources like a leach instead of being a man and taking care of her, you will be very very disappointed very soon. And you will get hurt in the process.
    If you are short on money you do your own legal and paperwork. Just read the instructions and follow them.
    But anyway, you shouldn’t be talking about marrying. You never met her in person. It makes no sense. But the fact that you keep talking about it means you are not honest here — not a problem, you’re probably wise protecting yourself from a bunch of morons here, but make super sure your’re not lying to yourself man! There is absolutely zero reason for you to talk about marriage, zero, nada, nada mesmo. When it is time for that, in a couple of years, you can then get your stuff together and do it.
    Squiddie2012-08-30 16:45:13

  • #220231

    CatClaice
    Member

    thanks that is some good advice Squid . I am just going to have fun me and my girl have been talking and think thats best to wait for marriage . I have been studying portuguese with her over skype and it has been helping a lot slowly but I am geting the hang of it .

  • #220382

    beach bum
    Member

    Yeah it is probably best to wait a bit, like perhaps even after meeting? Meu Deus you are helpless and lack some serious common sense at the same time. Go to brasil first, play a bit, spend a few weeks there. If all is good find a way to make enough money to stay longer. There is absolutely no reason to get married or even approach it in your situation. The lack of financial stability following quite closely behind not having met her yet.

  • #220410

    Paulo
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Lucky711]The plan is still pretty much the same but I am worried that if we hit it off in person and I want to stay I will not have the money to do so .[/QUOTE]
    I wouldn’t worry about hitting it off if you don’t have money.

  • #229976

    CatClaice
    Member

    Ok I just want to say thank you to everyone how replied to me even if it was not what I wanted to hear. I took everything people were saying and have been learning Portuguese every day for about 6-7 months . You guy were right I was jumping the gun with this girl . thank you for explaining how stupid this idea was . Yeah we don’t talk anymore . Anyways I have been saving up for the trip and plan on getting a plane ticket for next year and renting a place somewhere in the state of Rio. I want to be near the rio de janeiro the city . But for now I just want to save more money and keep learning Portuguese . I think I will stay in rio for a few months and if I like it ask the PF if I can extend my visa 3 more months .But I have found that I really like learning Portuguese and I think being in brazil for a few months is going to be awesome in helping with my language skills . anyways thanks guys I am really glad I listened to you and not rush anything.

  • #230013

    agri2001
    Participant

    Wise move Lucky711

  • #230015

    CatClaice
    Member

    thanks guys

  • #230257

    beach bum
    Member

    Glad you didn’t get married just yet. Fellow gringos here have plenty of experience to advise someone such as yourself. Good luck to you in the future!

  • #230260

    Gilmour
    Member

    Lucky, so what happened? Did you turn out to look like this?

    Post fotos!

  • #230267

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    Nice teeth…
    I really didn’t want to see this just before lunch

  • #230271

    Patigell
    Member

    What the hell happened to that thing? Did she try to sway her nose with one of her ta ta’s or something?

  • #230276

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=KL Gringo] What the hell happened to that thing? Did she try to sway her nose with one of her ta ta’s or something?[/QUOTE]
    Same plastical surgeon as Michael Jackson

  • #230315

    CatClaice
    Member

    lmao . No she did not look that bad .But I found out she had a kid and I am to young to be a daddy. haha . also I don’t like playing baby daddy . I just want to enjoy my trip in brazil .

  • #230323

    Gilmour
    Member

    ahh! but was she hot? I can understand on the age thing.
    just so you know (I’m waiting for beer to be delivered!!) – no, just so you know, should you meet up with a super hot one, but she has a kid, the father still has to pay child support. The problem is that he could be a deadbeat and paying the lowest amount possible (R$ 53/month) according to some sources of mine.
    Lucky, here’s another Brazilian-fact for you:
    If a guys knocks up a girl and he doesn’t have a job, or he is too young, then guess who pays? The parents. If the guy is too old and the guy has no money, guess who pays? His kids!! No joke.

  • #230357

    CatClaice
    Member

    She is 23 I am 24 I want to have fun for a few more year before I think about kids . hahaha . She was hot and that’s crazy that the parents would have to pay if the father was to young and the kid would have to pay if the father was to old . hahahaha

  • #230360

    Gilmour
    Member

    ^^ That’s Brazil dude (totally turned upside down). Since the State has no adequate welfare system like other countries, they tell the father: “Deal with it, or go to jail!”

  • #230384

    CatClaice
    Member

    hahahaha that’s funs hell dude. They should do that in the usa . I can’t wait to go to brazil. Hey spongebob do you think I can rent a apartment in brazil on a tourist visa ? I have a few friend who live in brazil and told me I could but I don’t know about that cpf card. do I need that to rent a place?

  • #230410

    agri2001
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Lucky711]hahahaha that’s funs hell dude. They should do that in the usa . I can’t wait to go to brazil. Hey spongebob do you think I can rent a apartment in brazil on a tourist visa ? I have a few friend who live in brazil and told me I could but I don’t know about that cpf card. do I need that to rent a place?[/QUOTE]
    No, you just need cash.

  • #230414

    Gilmour
    Member

    [QUOTE=agri2001] No, you just need cash.[/QUOTE]
    yup, I agree.
    But please don’t come here trying to get women pregnant. The country already has enough issues!

  • #22188

    sacarpenter
    Member

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