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  • #266242

    Janine
    Member

    Seems like alot of people came to brazil for personal (rather than career) reasons, eg. spouse’s job relocation, met a girl and looking for a job to stay here, etc.

    How can you make big money in Brazil?
    Most forum members seem to be thinking about opening a restaurant, cafe, mom& pop shop around the corner, pousada, etc, maybe some people just want a small comfortable business with their own capital?
    I have seen only few who came and open e-commerce businesses that are growing rapidly.
    below is an example, think the company is turning few hundred thousands, BUT they really need capital raising from venture capital (in the millions and quickly), i think due to the nature of the business. I guess you may need tech background in order to start somthing like that, or at least familiar with this field, especially the marketing, if not pure technology.

    brazilgringo2014-04-28 19:36:57

  • #266246

    Steven
    Participant

    There seem to be quite a few gentlemen trying to make big money with guns and motorcycles. They generally work in teams of two to four and are quite successful.

  • #266250

    spenymoon
    Member

    Plant your money on the beach and water it every day. One day a money tree will grow … just make sure no one collects the harvest before you do.

  • #266257

    Crybeaddy
    Member

    I thought it was litteral: printing your own money.
    But without committing some sort of crime the old joke comes into play:
    Q: How to become a millionaire in Brazil?
    A: Bring two millions. After a year you have one million left.

  • #266258

    815
    Member

    I hear cocaine is a growth industry here.

  • #266259

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    Youth, self-discipline, compound interest andpatience.

  • #266261

    agri2001
    Participant

    He can also try his hand at becoming a politician, and then do the drug deals.. or the other way around, which ever works best.

  • #266269

    Marc Maserati
    Participant

    [QUOTE=maarten]I thought it was litteral: printing your own money.
    But without committing some sort of crime the old joke comes into play:
    Q: How to become a millionaire in Brazil?
    A: Bring two millions. After a year you have one million left.
    [/QUOTE]

    I’ve heard this said of the wine industry as well!
    Seriously though, how to make money here is to offer services or products not available elsewhere. For instance, I work in the Biotech industry and there are some opportunities here that no longer exist in the US. It’s not easy but we are building a good business.
    -Marc
  • #266271

    Finrudd
    Participant

    Cocaine consumption in Brazil is second only to the US now (I read last night).

    But, I suspect the best way to make big money here is to target the growth in the new classe C. Find a product or service that is in demand by the masses and not already saturated and do it cheaper, faster and better than anyone else.
    Pretty well the same as making big money anywhere.
  • #266280

    Janine
    Member

    The big multinational and brazilian companies are already doing much of it.
    How do you make it cheap in this country?

  • #266281

    Deleted User
    Moderator

    [QUOTE=finrudd]

    …But, I suspect the best way to make big money here is to target the growth in the new classe C..

    [/QUOTE]

  • #266282

    Crybeaddy
    Member

    [QUOTE=brazilgringo]
    How do you make it cheap in this country?
    [/QUOTE]
    Like anywhere else: have it produced in China for next to nothing with an appalling quality.
    After you sold it, change name and address, so that Procon can’t find you.

  • #266284

    celso
    Member

    Instant rice and beans…. Other instant fast noodles etc…Powdered alcohol…

  • #266285

    Janine
    Member

    With import taxes, even with made in china. is there still an opportunity?

  • #266286

    myrna
    Member

    Find something that you can automate the sh*t out of so you have minimal reliance on Brazilian employees.

  • #266298

    Crybeaddy
    Member

    Not even IT personnel? Interesting…
    Now I found out that I gave a hint to our spammer, he is offering fake money instead of novelty passports. Will it ever stop :(

  • #266368

    lynchem
    Member

    If you work for yourself, or multinational, those are the best methods for sustaining one’s self here in Brazil.

  • #266370

    Janine
    Member

    Any ideas for working by yourself?
    I suppose no point working for local brazilian company then, ( exception of embraer maybe)

  • #266373

    Suiço
    Member

    [QUOTE=brazilgringo]The big multinational and brazilian companies are already doing much of it.
    How do you make it cheap in this country?
    [/QUOTE]
    The big multinational companies are here because they have to be here to be competitive globally. They are not profitable to the degree they are outside of Brazil. In fact, several of us take a loss. There are many examples out there.
    In mfg we save on costs by reusing dies and re-deployed machinery and/or recycled designs to make up for the bottom line. The mfg tech sector is a decade (if not more) behind to what is going on elsewhere. Look at the car models. Anything that makes 20-30 points elsewhere is lucky to pull 3-5 points here in Brazil due to the costs and other obvious reasons.
    I imagine there are ways to make $ here independently. However it’s probably not worth the effort, frustration or risk. From my experience everybody here always has a hand out or is scheming in some sort of way to make little “big” money. They usually end up screwing over their employees and customers in ways that would be deemed criminal in other countries.
    Then they don’t pick up the phone.
    Being born into money or weaseling your way into politics or smuggling product into the country is the only way to make big money here.

  • #266412

    Charing
    Member

    Anyone working succesfully on their own here?

  • #266419

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=jennerjcruz]Lots of nonsense. Of course there are plenty of honest and decent rich people in Brazil, as there are in other countries. This forum is just a collection of frustrated men entrapped in Brazil and unable to understand its culture and to succeed here.[/QUOTE]

    Oh, I don’t believe that even Corky from “Life Goes On” would have a problem understanding Brazilian “culture”. The lyrics to Lepo Lepo are pretty self explanatory.

    Paulistano USA2014-05-07 06:43:06

  • #266431

    Kathy2012
    Participant

    [QUOTE=jennerjcruz] Lots of nonsense. Of course there are plenty of honest and decent rich people in Brazil, as there are in other countries.[/QUOTE]

  • #267025

    JHZcali24
    Member

    I think it depends on what you mean by big money. There are plenty of high paying jobs here that I am not qualified for, but maybe you are.

  • #267027

    Charing
    Member

    And would u be able to get those jobs even if you are qualified? Compared to getting those jobs in London, Paris etc ? The issue is people can get the jobs for exAmple in London or Hong Kong, but not São Paulo or rio, (we are assuming same responsibilities, same mangerial level, same/ similar company etc, so only location is different)

  • #267030

    lynchem
    Member

    Yes,
    You can do Internet Marketing: Affiliate marketing, build an e-course, write e-books, e-commerce
    Actually there are so many different kinds of businesses and methods for making money online; let your imagination guide you.
    The reason it’s so easy, or more easy than before is that running an online empire has reduced the overhead costs of a physical store. This primarily has to do with e-commerce.

    You can do consulting or coaching on a subject with which you are familiar. Case and point I know a girl who focuses on sustainability & obtained an investor visa. All she did was interview and ask questions to companies and professionals in a particular industry, got clients and pulled the trigger on her visa to make it “the real deal”.
    Honestly, you could get into startups, services or products, and just raise money by landing clients, customers, contracts etc..
    In any case, one must use their imagination. The old or inexperienced on this forum may say otherwise, but that just gives you premise to prove them wrong!.
  • #267031

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=Leblon]

    Actually there are so many different kinds of businesses and methods for making money online; let your imagination guide you.

    [/QUOTE]

    Think: Cam boy/girl Wink
  • #267069

    Janine
    Member

    I think we were talking about different things here.

    We were talking about high paying jobs, wheras you are more talking about start up, internet marketing etc.
    What we were saying is that given the same exact corporate job (good salary, multinational), how is brazil different as compared to other cities/countries. (so we are assuming everything is constant, responsibility of the job, managerial position within the company, type of company, skills and experience of applicant, etc). The location of the job is the only variable.
    the original idea was about wether Brazil has a unique advantage in terms of attracting people to come and develop their careers or invest in a start up business here, as opposed to other cities such as NYC, London, Frankfurt, Sydney etc.
    So for example, america offers a very recognized environment for entrepreneurs for its well known innovation and hard working culture, good laws and regulations on patent protection. This has fostered some of the world’s innovative companies like google, microsoft, mcdonlands, etc. Corporate america offers high salaries to high performance individuals.
    Another example is London, where the there is a concentration of global financial institutions and players in the financial markets. The existence of this environment comes with high paying jobs in the banking and financial sector. Although the days of easy bonuses are gone, there is still alot of money around in being at the center of global financial markets . Hence we see many other europeans attracted to the environment.
    Another example is Australia, where one can get a good salary working in the minning sector, in ‘non business’ related jobs such as driving a mining truck. I have heared people driving trucks in Western australia earning 100k a year. Although the commodities cycle has its ups and downs, the jobs in the sector and jobs which require vocational training is still highly paid.
    Being an expert in one area and build a consulting firm is great. Having in depth knowledge in one industry allows you to focus. It is also something that can acheived anywhere in the world too. How is building it in Brazil different compared to say, Canada, China, or Nigeria.
    you have to research more on how you would aquire clients in the local market and determine wether you have a SUStainable business so clients keep using your services.

    brazilgringo2014-05-31 17:29:35

  • #267141

    lynchem
    Member

    Umm,
    I take it YOU are talking about different things because first of all brazil is different and not the same, so comparison is rather useless in any case.
    Developing your career here has only a small likelihood of possibility and that is if you’re already a brazilian with a job or a highly specialized skillset.
    What you’re talking about requires more work than most are willing to put in because as i’ve already mentioned the odds are not favourable.
    I don’t see the point in drowning the issue away from what i’ve provided, internet or consulting gigs. I know plenty of people doing it and its every increasing popularity seems to say more than you point out nothing and wasting a post….

  • #267142

    Janine
    Member

    [QUOTE=Leblon]Umm,
    Developing your career here has only a small likelihood of possibility and that is if you’re already a brazilian with a job or a highly specialized skillset.
    [/QUOTE]

    I guess this answers the question for people wanting to work here then…
    every country in the world is different, so comparing the pros and cons of them makes sense so that you go to a place with most opportunities for you. For example, civil engenieers make good careers in countries like China where people are building bridges everyday, compared to the UK.
    maybe coz I am from a immigrant country mindset ‘where people are looking for good developed places eg. canada, germany, etc and I just want to know how brazil stands from global point of view.
    sure. internet marketing and consulting is great.

    brazilgringo2014-06-02 13:37:30

  • #267147

    lynchem
    Member

    The overall comparison proves pointless simply because the career itself is subject to the same ‘luck’ of ‘panning out’ as is being granted a job in the first place.
    Brazil is not the place where dreams come true for everyone. Only a few live the vanity we all seem to observe from time to time. There are more problems here than most people can handle. It takes determination and emotional stability to survive here, job or not.
    I am not sure which hand to count with but surely know I wouldn’t need the other in quantifying how many on this forum are sustaining themselves contently .
    Therefore I still advise you to deter from the traditional or conventional form of logic in trying to figure out Brazil.

  • #267148

    Crybeaddy
    Member

    [QUOTE=Leblon]You can do Internet Marketing: Affiliate marketing, build an e-course, write e-books, e-commerce
    [/QUOTE]
    ….. spamming forums and blogs to sell f.ex. fake passports ….

  • #267150

    lynchem
    Member

    LOL

    I wouldn’t recommend it. Albeit for argument’s sake it could be possible to live in brazil easier doing that; annoying you, than looking for the career you “think” you deserve but aren’t likely to attain.
  • #267152

    815
    Member

    [QUOTE=maarten][QUOTE=Leblon]You can do Internet Marketing: Affiliate marketing, build an e-course, write e-books, e-commerce
    [/QUOTE]
    ….. spamming forums and blogs to sell f.ex. fake passports ….
    [/QUOTE]

    LOL
    Now that’s funny!
  • #27468

    ChrisCelik
    Member

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