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  • #68016

    Benjamin86
    Member

    So, i quit smoking at easter. It’s been about a month.
    I wasn’t meaning to quit (for once), i suppose i should, but it happened like this:
    I ran out of my smokes, and can’t find anything worth smoking. Except those clove cigarettes they have at the umbanda store, and 1) i wont pay 11 reais a pack and 2) someone will see me in the umbanda store for sure and then i’ll never hear the end of it (never you mind how i know they sell them at the umbanda store ).
    So any other gringo smokers in brazil? What do you all smoke? What’s good?

  • #68017

    Anonymous

    I’m trying to quit but the cigarettes are so damn cheap and you can smoke everywhere that it makes that really difficult.

  • #68018

    Awww, 3casas! Keep it this way!
    Diarmuid, I forbid you to tell what you smoke!!!!

  • #68019

    x32792
    Member

    eh, i go in cycles. I usually quit in the winter anyway, too cold to sit outside.
    But once it gets warmer…. hard to stay quit when one likes to smoke.
    And PS- if you think you can smoke everywhere here, you need to go to Japan.
    I don’t see anyone smoking in brazil in the bank or on the bus. And ismoked in the hospital when i had my bike accident. and there, you can get every brand (except the ones from paraguay!)
    3casas39209,9266666667

  • #68020

    I’ve been to Japan… the cigarrete smoke was the only drawback… Once we took the shinkansen, there was no empty seat at the non-smoking cars… I thought I was going to die!

  • #68022

    the smoking car is just crazy, i used to commute on the shinkansen, you sit in there with the salarymen drinking beer at 8AM.
    and remember when you could smoke on international flights? ah, those were the days.

  • #68039

    Nancy May
    Member

    I am amazed it was ever allowed, really.

  • #68130

    moumitamou
    Member

    When I am in Brazil I usually load at the duty-free beforehand. If I need to buy there, I usually buy Carlton. Hollywood is not bad. I also try to enjoy at least one or two Cuban cigars while there too. Nothing better than a nice cigar and a glass of chilled Bourbon, after walking 18 holes.
    None of the Brazilian brands, for me at least, cut it. They are all kind of weak. They use plants from VA and NC, but there must be something different in the soil or something. Marlboro made in Brazil taste nothing like Marlboro made in Richmond.
    I smoke like a tar kettle. I want to quit. I need t quit. The stress in my life right now prevents this, even though it actually adds to it. Yeah – like that makes a lot of sense, I know, but, it is what it is.
    It doesn’t affect my sense of taste, however. I am deaf in one ear, so I compensate… taste, eyesight, and smell are all enhanced- pretty cool, though I’d rather have the ear back.
    So… don’t worry 3 casas, next time I am there I’ll bring you a couple cartons of Marlboro Red’s – straight from Richmond VA., if you can hold on just a few more months. We can enjoy a nice smoke after we eat the meal I prepare for everyone at the “next” meet-up.
    In NY or Chicago a pack cost something like 8 to 10 dollars! If that were the case here I would have quit easily years ago. I pay 2.80 (Marlboro Ultra-Lights) today. I remember when I was a kid – .35 cents a pack… now those were the days.
    I remember being allowed to smoke on domestic flights. One time a few years back you could smoke on Varig, but not on, say, Delta. I am/was a smoker and even I thought that was gross. I don’t smoke in restaurants – even if allowed. Don’t smoke in the house. Don’t smoke in my in-laws house either. They think I am strange because I always go outside to smoke. I try to tell them it is for them, but they don’t get it???john.jane39210,8049537037

  • #68139

    you are a nice guy… Not many do that nowadays JJ….
    I used to smoke but finally gave it up… being a Personal trainer doesnt work well when you hacking and coughing away. so idecided it was time to quit cold turkey hahahahaha, now thats another story in itself.. it used to be that smoking on brazilian flight was allowed but then even Varig said no… i remember one time that someone went to the bathroom to smoke even before the plane took off… (wasnt me) and the comissario had him belted in faster than you can say Bye bye

  • #68140

    Jesus Mary and Joseph, $2.80 per pack? You live in VA, right?
    When I left RI/MA last year I was paying something like $7/pack.
    We did go to a native reservation when i was in wisconsin, though, and they were $4. And I hear you on those cubans, I haven’t bought any here yet…. but my buddy who lives in VZ brought me some, oh what a pleasure.
    So they import the tobacco???? Or are they american strains of the plants that are planted here?

  • #68144

    Greenback
    Member

    What’s wrong with the American-branded cigarettes you can buy in Brazil? I buy Lucky Strike Lights for R$2.75 and they taste ok. Granted, they’re made in Brazil but I can’t tell a difference.

  • #68148

    [QUOTE=john.jane] I want to quit. I need t quit. The stress in my life right now prevents this, even though it actually adds to it. Yeah – like that makes a lot of sense, I know, but, it is what it is. [/QUOTE]

    John.Jane, Go for it and quit. Many people suffer stress but do not smoke so that’s just an excuse, if they can cope with stress but do not need a fag then so can you! I smoked from 16 to 45 years of age, I used Zibane to quit and have never regretted it. I’m now one of the worst anti smokers from the prior smokers brigade. Go for it and enjoy not being a smoer anymore.

  • #68151

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=KiteFlyer] if they can cope with stress but do not need a fag then so can you! [/QUOTE]

  • #68153

    Souza
    Member

    I live in Atlanta, GA aka the ATL. Born and raised in Richmond. Used to rent a loft in a warehouse district in Richmond a stone’s throw away from the tobacco warehouses where they stored and cured tobacco to be used at Phillip Morris. In September and October the entire area smelled of the sweet “brown gold” that built this fair nation…. Smoke up Johnny
    They import the seeds. I saw a story once on my favorite TV program – “Rural Global”.
    I know it’s a bullsh*t excuse… That is why – it is what it is.
    john.jane39210,9699189815

  • #68173

    x32792
    Member

    Haha, JJ, you should explain what is a *fag* in the US!

  • #68174

    Tam
    Member

    [QUOTE=Denise] [QUOTE=KiteFlyer] if they can cope with stress but do not need a fag then so can you! [/QUOTE]

    [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=Denise]
    Haha, JJ, you should explain what is a *fag* in the US!

    [/QUOTE]

    Just now after your second message I understood the laughter in the first. As my English is British I also use fag for cigarette.

    MonicaB39211,3877546296

  • #68175

    Tam
    Member

    Oh so that’s what made you laugh at kite’s comments….
    I would but, 1) I think/thought everyone here knew that one, and 2) I was waiting for Rupert to do it for me.
    Also…. Don’t like to use such “language” here.

  • #68224

    kamkan
    Member

    I used to smoke like a chimney. I decided to quit when I saw patients with emphysema and the like. Takes about 30 consistent years or more of smoking (usually heavy smokers) and then it can hit. Hooked up to oxygen, can’t sleep without sitting up in a chair, on nebulizers, can’t talk without gasping. Not meaning to add fuel to the fire-just the reality of what I saw. It scared the crap out of me.

    Also, they’ve shown that smokers get alot more wrinkles as they age versus someone who stopped/or didn’t smoke. Less oxygen available so the skin loses it’s turgor/elasticity (who wants extra ones?).

    I decided on a date and then quit cold turkey, chewed muito gum and it helped stop the smoke urges. I’d chew, like 3 or 4 packs, a day in the beginning. After about 3-4 months, the urges stopped completely.

    Nancee39211,6344328704

  • #68263

    tamy.andrade
    Member

    [QUOTE=john.jane] I live in Atlanta, GA aka the ATL. Born and raised in Richmond. Used to rent a loft in a warehouse district in Richmond a stone’s throw away from the tobacco warehouses where they stored and cured tobacco to be used at Phillip Morris. In September and October the entire area smelled of the sweet “brown gold” that built this fair nation…. Smoke up Johnny
    [/QUOTE]

    It’s not the tobbaco leaves it’s all the toxic / addictive chemicals put in by the tobacco companies to keep people addicted that is so dangerous and immoral but good for profits.

  • #68267

    brettsmith
    Member

    They don’t do this anymore, but yes, they did – scumbags.

  • #68375

    x32792
    Member

    So I gather from the lack of suggestions that nobody has any brands they really like and can recommend. I guess it’s for the best.
    So I guess quitting smoking almost makes up for the extra drinking i seem to always be doing here in Ctba. Although I should say I usually only smoke (d?) one or two per day anyway.
    Thanks folks.

  • #68431

    Greenback
    Member

    You smoke more when you drink less, strange, I’m the opposite.

    The cravo cigs you were talking about are usually available at bancos de journais, if I remember they cost about 4 or 5 R$, I find that cigs here all have a “samey” taste about them, I prefer to roll my own, find the taste much better, but at 20 – 25 R$ a pouch, it’s a bit steep.

    I can’t understand that if you’re anyway halfway to giving up, why you don’t just leave it.

    Oh, one point, don’t know if you were a heavy smoker before, but I’ve heard a few times that stopping suddenly can provoke some serious health problems.

    ah, something else, don’t know about Ctba, but here in SP, you have some really nice tobacco shops with some really great imported gigarettes (Turkey, France etc.), if you only smoke 1 or 2 a day,maybe that would be interesting.

  • #68435

    sparkyzal
    Member

    what can you get for rolling here? drum by any chance???
    i was a heavy smoker in japan (smoking for need), last year or two it’s been smoking for enjoyment, really. hard to explain, i suppose…. but i much rather have a good smoke after dinner than smoke a full pack of crappies during the day.
    i miss the tobacconist at the mercadao, i know they had some good stuff. i may pay a visit next time i go to SP, i’ll be in the neighborhood to pick up my peanut butter anyway.
    Diarmuid, are you now in Carrao? Or Mooca (memory is failing me here)… all OK?

  • #68440

    phsp23
    Member

    Let’s see, I’ve seen Golden Virginia, drum, Javennse Jongens (sp?) and some others I can’t remember now.

    There is a Brazilian type, looks like a coiled snake magically turned into a turd and tastes like what I would imagine pulling on a car exhaust would taste like.

    Hear they’re coming up with a Brazilian shag (no smart comments, please, that’s the term) like we’re used to, but haven’t seen that yet.

    Most shopping centres usually have a good tobaccy, there’s an ok one on Av. Paulista (near Brigadeiro Luiz Antonio).

    Carrão, yeah it’s going well, the quiet at night is really surprising, sitting out in the yard at night, can see much more stars than before, the dogs love it, now just need to get everything unpacked, feeling upbeat about the whole thing

  • #68472

    aussiegold
    Member

    ooooohhhh, the chain-turd! I saw them (all kinds of them) and was curious but not THAT curious, you know.
    I am shocked to say that i miss the area over there. Enjoy and glad to hear you survived the move.

  • #68474

    nitzan
    Member

    [QUOTE=3casas]ooooohhhh, the chain-turd! I saw them (all kinds of them) and was curious but not THAT curious, you know.
    [/QUOTE]

    Yep, and to get the full experience, should be rolled in (milho verde – can’t rember the name in English) husk, seperates the men from the boys

    What part did you live in?

  • #68500

    gillouuk
    Member

    [QUOTE=Diarmuid]

    Yep, and to get the full experience, should be rolled in (milho verde – can’t rember the name in English) husk, seperates the men from the boys

    What part did you live in?[/QUOTE]

    Milho verde, isn’t that the leaf surrounding the sweet corn kernal? Tasts like sh1t !!

  • #68505

    I quit for a long time in America, but since I started drinking so much in Brazil, and being around a lot of people who smoke, I started back, unfortunately.
    In the past,
    I tried the patch– didn’t work for me.
    Tried the gum– didn’t work for me.
    Tried Xyban– didn’t work for me.
    The only thing that I found works for me is the Nicorette Losenages, but I can’t find those in Brazil. Anybody know of any vendors in Brazil?

  • #68507

    demiurge
    Member

    [QUOTE=3casas]what can you get for rolling here? drum by any chance???[/QUOTE]

    Paper napkins in Brazil work for rolling if you’re in a pinch. I guess there is some advantage to their paper-thinness.

  • #68511

    x32792
    Member

    Being Dutch (with lots of people smoking “shag” tabacco), I seem to be an expert.

    Drum is a Dutch brand, as is Van Nelle, Javaanse Jongens (boys from Java, Diarmuid, don’t ask me why) and Samson. Only the last I have seen here, but rather expensive.

    There is, however, a good Brazilian replacement, made by Souza Cruz (although they don’t tell it on their website) called Trevo.

    Not everywhere on stock, It seems to be considered a poor man’s smoke, so the “better” tabacco shops don’t have it. And indeed, it is cheap at R$1,40 or so the package.

    For the rolling paper, I would prefer Rizla blue myself, but this is imported stuff and the paper is twice as expensive as the smoke itself. Instead, we use Colomy, or in emergencies the Trevo paper (both also from Souza Cruz).

  • #68513

    phsp23
    Member

    All this valuable information. I might start smoking again

  • #68530

    dalmata
    Member

    [QUOTE=Camzao]All this valuable information. I might start smoking again [/QUOTE]
    Sigh… what do I do with these friends!

  • #68608

    Benjamin86
    Member

    So much info, i wonder if i have forgotten how to roll in 10 years?
    When i was in college we used the (god have mercy on me) papers from the bibles that the evangelical/mormon/etc pushed on us. burned just fine. somehow i think here that might get me shot.
    thanks for the names and the info.

  • #68612

    Crybeaddy
    Member

    [QUOTE=3casas]So much info, i wonder if i have forgotten how to roll in 10 years?

    [/QUOTE]

    If you haven’t had a roll in ten years then you have my deepest sympathy !!

  • #68618

    demiurge
    Member

    [QUOTE=Camzao]

    All this valuable information. I might start smoking again

    [/QUOTE]

    YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

  • #68700

    phsp23
    Member

    [QUOTE=3casas]So much info, i wonder if i have forgotten how to roll in 10 years?
    [/QUOTE]

    There are certain things that you don’t dislearn, or take only a short practice in picking it back up, like riding a bike.

    Denise and Supermary, sorry to hear your dislike of smoking. No offence, I hope.

  • #68701

    kamkan
    Member

    None taken, unless one of you decide to puff your smoke right at my face.

  • #68706

    majkaluerka
    Member

    3 Casas, agree with maarten, like riding a bike,

    Maarten, Trevo? never heard of it, I’ll look out for it, are you in SP or Rio?

    , you on page no. 3, yep, sweet corn husk

  • #68711

    demiurge
    Member

    [QUOTE=Denise] [QUOTE=Camzao]All this valuable information. I might start smoking again [/QUOTE]
    Sigh… what do I do with these friends!
    [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=supermary] [QUOTE=Camzao]

    All this valuable information. I might start smoking again

    [/QUOTE]

    YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
    [/QUOTE]

    I’m joking guys, these emotions are getting the better of me.

    Look I smoked for a few years as a teenager (yeah I was tuff – not)

    and I have smoked a couple of times for a year or so as an adult. I don’t know why, I just start smoking then decide one day, don’t like this and stop – never ever have a problem quitting, I’m pretty lucky like that and really feel for people who really want to to give up but can’t. I haven’t smoked for years but do have an occasional social smoke. When I was travelling/living in Brazil in 2003 I started smoking (so cheap here) but I haven’t this time. Probably has something to do with having kids now but I don’t think I would have started again without kids. As I a non smoker I hate people smoking and find it disgusting. I’m not one of those terrible reformed smokers but I just hate the smell of stale smoke – especially in a office environment when all the smokers come back upstairs in the lift after a smoke – suits smelling of stale smoke.

    And don’t smoke around my babies, I’ve cracked the sh*ts a couple of times here in Brazil when family members or friends have smoked right next to my kids when inside. Some people just don’t think

    Anyway bom dia pra todo mundo

    EDIT: I can’t spell dia

    Camzao39216,8797337963

  • #68772

    phsp23
    Member

    hear you on the kids, it changes your smoking habits, suddenly when you can’t smoke at home, in the car, etc things are a bit different.
    thanks thanks, i will look around and see what i can find. today in a nordestino store today i saw “fumo” (poo tobaccy). BLECK!
    Diarmuid, the inlaws all live in J Vila Formosa, if you take the bus to Terminal Carrao it is walking distance from there. I really like Carrao, Formosa, Antonieta…. mostly b/c there are a lot of family people to hang out with, old friends, etc. People hang out on the street at night, which they don’t do here. Don’t miss driving there, but i do miss that big Oxan store on Rio Das Pedras there.
    3casas39216,8864467593

  • #10207

    sphiatt
    Member

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