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  • #244922

    1houcin84y
    Member

    Hi
    I am in Sao Paulo without kids but need a family lawyer. Any recomendations the one I had was extortionate and forgot to turn up to court hearing.
    Am at stage of nao pagaento do alimentaicao. 7 months.
    Thanks

  • #244926

    jabomano
    Member

    Foreign consulates, usually have a list of lawyers published on their websites.
    Cool

  • #244933

    1houcin84y
    Member

    Thanks the one I used was from british council and wasn’t impressed suppose I could try another

  • #244945

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant
  • #244969

    doctorlili
    Member

    ay not a week goes by without a new divorce case. be prepared be prepared.

  • #244978

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie] ay not a week goes by without a new divorce case. be prepared be prepared.[/QUOTE]
    And who mentioned divorce?

  • #244983

    1houcin84y
    Member

    Thanks Sven. I will pm them.

  • #245045

    doctorlili
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=Squiddie] ay not a week goes by without a new divorce case. be prepared be prepared.[/QUOTE]
    And who mentioned divorce?[/QUOTE]
    My dear zealous procecutor and witch hunter, Sven. It is I mentioning divorce, because that is what “family courts” are for. Yes it could be the OP is a party to a process with the mere purpose of child support extortion. But in one way or another, he got rolled into unprotected “love” and is now being processed on the other side. Squiddie2013-04-09 08:11:39

  • #245059

    gringodr
    Member

    She also said without kids

  • #245062

    doctorlili
    Member

    The cryptic message written in haste says that Natasha is without kids, possibly meaning her kids got taken. I didn’t check the OP’s gender first, I should have done that.

  • #245078

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie]It is I mentioning divorce, because that is what “family courts” are for. [/QUOTE]
    Oh, what did I miss?
    Shouldn’t it be called divorce court then?
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    he got rolled into unprotected “love” and is now being processed on the other side. [/QUOTE]
    [QUOTE=orioo] She also said without kids[/QUOTE]
    Just a hint.
    Nat = Natasha
    Just by reading the message:
    She is in Brazil, without her kids (which are back home) executing the father of the children for unpaid child support.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]Yes it could be the OP is a party to a process with the mere purpose of child support extortion. But in one way or another, [/QUOTE]
    You’re a real piece of work, you know.
    I hope sp_lawyer puts the guy in jail for not paying, if he takes the case.

  • #245081

    doctorlili
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven][QUOTE=Squiddie]Yes it could be the OP is a party to a process with the mere purpose of child support extortion. But in one way or another, [/QUOTE]
    You’re a real piece of work, you know.
    I hope sp_lawyer puts the guy in jail for not paying, if he takes the case.[/QUOTE]
    Oh the highs of the fierce battle. Why not “burn on the stake”, “cut his balls off”, or all of the above?
    I hope that a fair settlement gets reached in which all parties take their responsibility for their previous actions.
    PS: in my reply to oorio that you chose to ignore, I did confess that I mistook the case based on not checking the gender. The end result, however, is still similar. And thank you for demonstrating your prejudice as a witch hunter, jumping to your anti-male conclusions on your end, as seems to be a strong undercurrent of your legal profession and your personal opinions. (I now know why you and your friends never replied to me when I asked for your paid advice after explaining my goals.)Squiddie2013-04-09 11:06:34

  • #245095

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    I hope that a fair settlement gets reached in which all parties take their responsibility for their previous actions.[/QUOTE]
    There is no fair settlement possible except the payment of the 7 months of child support he is not paying and she is executing.
    That is 7 months with juros & multa moratória & correção monetário.
    The way I see it, there was a settlement, and we have a sleazeball father that figures that the kids live elsewhere so the mom won’t come here to come after me to pay.
    Jailtime, get his car, sell his home. Make the sleazebag pay.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie] PS: in my reply to oorio that you chose to ignore, I did confess that I mistook the case based on not checking the gender. [/QUOTE]
    1) I read messages in sequence, yours came at the end.
    2) You always make this kind of “mistake”. The OP’s message is quite clear, maybe you should ask HPeak or one of the other english teachers on the board to give you some lessons in comprehensive reading.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]jumping to your anti-male conclusions on your end, as seems to be a strong undercurrent of your legal profession and your personal opinions. [/QUOTE]
    I have no anti-male conclusions, I can sniff out a sleazebag from miles away.
    Really, what part of “Hi I am in Sao Paulo without kids but need a family lawyer. Any recomendations the one I had was extortionate and forgot to turn up to court hearing. Am at stage of nao pagaento do alimentaicao. 7 months. ” did you not understand?? It’s absolutely clear that:
    1) some sleazebag is not paying child support
    2) some sleazebag lawyer took money but did not appear in court
    3) the OP left her kids at home
    From that you go to:
    [QUOTE=Squiddie] ay not a week goes by without a new divorce case. be prepared be prepared.[/QUOTE]
    and move on to:
    [QUOTE=Squiddie] It is I mentioning divorce, because that is what “family courts” are for. Yes it could be the OP is a party to a process with the mere purpose of child support extortion. But in one way or another, he got rolled into unprotected “love” and is now being processed on the other side. [/QUOTE]
    I don’t remember who mentioned this, but If I’m not mistaken, someone already told you once that married people have unprotected sex. It’s something common. People get married and have kids.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie](I now know why you and your friends never replied to me when I asked for your paid advice after explaining my goals.)[/QUOTE]
    Personally, I don’t think I’ll be giving you any advice anymore. Free or Paid.

  • #245096

    doctorlili
    Member

    Yes, thanks for continuing to expound on your biases. It’s good to know. I really don’t like you at this point either.
    Married people and unprotected sex wasn’t directed at me, because I am not bashing people for unprotected sex. This might have been meant for my “friend” Esprit. That the woman however does have a responsibility too, is nothing you need to be concerned about, your “sleazebag” philosophy does not require it. With this I do not mean to know the guy is good and a victim, he has responsibility too, but you Sven, and your likes, don’t care. You are so fully infected of the feminist rage that your mother has fed you with her milk, it’s a lost cause anyway.
    I think I don’t need to divert the thread further from where I have already done that, but I will do everything I can not to get involved with types like you in an actual case.Squiddie2013-04-09 12:09:06

  • #245098

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    My bias?
    I’m not the one talking extorsion.

  • #245107

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie] That the woman however does have a responsibility too, is nothing you need to be concerned about, your “sleazebag” philosophy does not require it.[/QUOTE]
    No, it doesn’t. If the sleazebag isn’t happy with the child support, he should seek a court order to get the value altered. In this case they guy simply stopped paying and obviously will need a nudge from a judge to get him to pay.
    Sure, the woman has responsability too, and that will have been discussed in the child support case.
    But you my friend, have com to the right country. This is Brazil, the country where men have kids with a woman and then dump both, the wife and the kids, in order to find another whomb, make more kids, and, dump them too lateron.
    Brazilian law alows for the prison of non payment of child support, as it’s the only way to make sleazebags pay.

  • #245124

    doctorlili
    Member

    Sven, right now I don’t hate you, and I hate it about myself that I had to say “I don’t like you either”. But, without trying to shame you, I find your use of the word “sleazebag” very telling. This is just not how one should talk about any involved party when in the realm of professional or personal relationships. And I think that is a real problem. I know on this forum it’s cool to show off what a big guy you are to have come-backs and how you can talk down on people. But in the end, a piece of you shows which has a “sleazebag” issue.
    I know you can see the other side (albeit with limitations). And I admit that I am doing my part to be fueling the controversy. But when “sleazebag” enters family court realm, family court sinks very, very low.
    This is the country where men AND women have kids. How can you not see that? How can you blindly say “men have kids” and declare the women-folk as only victims? How can you do that when you have seen countless stories here on this very forum of women who have left their loving Gringo suitors (and took the kids and the pension)?
    I am not trying to say the guy is a saint. And I know first hand the “sleazebaggyness” you refer to when I think of my namorada’s ex who has at least as much resources as I do and sits in this other country not paying a single dime for his son, for 3 years now, while I am still providing assistance for all that time for that son’s needs, because she’s a person I care for and I don’t want to just blow her off. And yet, I know that she left him, and that she did her part of making that earlier relationship fail. In fact, that she probably overstepped the boundary of monogamy in contrast to the saintly version about her morals that she projects into the world. Because that is what women are as capable of doing as men are. When I was new with her, I knew who was the bad guy, she even dramatized the story that he beat her, and I took the sweet soup. But, today, I know this is only one side of a (often revised) story. There is responsibility on both sides, and being stuck with the expenses of kids is not the sole fault of the “man who have kids with another womb”.
    I am not judging her or him. I just know that I want nothing to do with “sleazebag” courts or lawyers, and this is why I tell people to beware, not marry with rose colored glasses, gently question this thing called “love”, and think and talk through the possibility of the end of their marriage, and know what they agree to before it hits them.Squiddie2013-04-09 14:13:26

  • #245128

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie]I find your use of the word “sleazebag” very telling. This is just not how one should talk about any involved party when in the realm of professional or personal relationships. [/QUOTE]
    Luckilly a lawyer can get away with calling someone a sleazebag in open court.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    I know you can see the other side (albeit with limitations).[/QUOTE]
    No limitations. The question is simple. There is a court order to pay alimony, a guy doesn’t pay for 7 months.
    Unless there is some justifiable reason why he is not paying AND why he didn’t try to change the amount by judicial means (i.e. abducted by aliens, in a coma) then he either coughs up what he owes or goes to jail, it’s that simple.
    I remember a case in São Paulo where some woman had abandoned the child with it’s father and she had to pay child support by court order which she failed to do. 8 months pregnant she was thrown in jail for not paying child support for her 2 year old. This I’d call a sleazebagette.
    My interest is not in defending the non-paying father, nor the interest of the mother, but the interest of the child.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie] And I admit that I am doing my part to be fueling the controversy. But when “sleazebag” enters family court realm, family court sinks very, very low.[/QUOTE]
    You obviously don’t know even a millionth of what goes on in family court in Brazil. Too bad you can’t get in as all sessions are closed, but believe me, it’s better than you tube
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    This is the country where men AND women have kids. How can you not see that? How can you blindly say “men have kids” and declare the women-folk as only victims?
    [/QUOTE]
    No, you’re doing the opposite. You blame women for getting pregnant.
    The victim is usually cries a lot and poops it’s diapers.
    And yes, it’s usually the men that abandon their kids and not the women.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    How can you do that when you have seen countless stories here on this very forum of women who have left their loving Gringo suitors?
    [/QUOTE]
    Yes, and even if they do. The gringo had it’s part in getting her knocked up, and the child should not be the victim of the stupidity of a gringo.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    And I know first hand the “sleazebaggyness” you refer to when I think of my namorada’s ex who has at least as much resources as I do and sits in this other country not paying a single dime for his son, for 3 years now,[/QUOTE]
    That is exactly the type. Believe me he’s not alone. Does he have any assets in Brazil? Does he visit here?
    [QUOTE=Squiddie] And yet, I know that she left him, and that she did her part of making that earlier relationship fail. In fact, that she probably overstepped the boundary of monogamy in contrast to the saintly version about her morals that she projects into the world. Because that is what women are as capable of doing as men are.
    [/QUOTE]
    It doesn’t really matter who made the relationship fail. There is a child involved and the guy helped make that child (and probably enjoyed doing that).
    [QUOTE=Squiddie] and being stuck with the expenses of kids is not the sole fault of the “man who have kids with another womb”.
    [/QUOTE]
    No, but it’s not your fault either, yet you feel you need to help out because the other sleazebag is sipping piña coladas in tijuana.
    Oh, and I don’t hate you, I just dislike your opinion on certain matters.

  • #245131

    hoganti
    Member

    jesus, will you two stop bickering….keep it up and you guys may need to go to family court

  • #245133

    doctorlili
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven]Luckilly a lawyer can get away with calling someone a sleazebag in open court.[/QUOTE]
    Lest I have to defend myself of another ad hom assault that Squiddie is the one who needs to be always right, I will rest my case simply with this your above quite. That you can get away with it, and that you take the liberty to do so, is my growing problem with you. Not so much the lack of formal politeness, but how it perpetuates hate and denial.

  • #245135

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie] is my growing problem with you. .[/QUOTE]
    You’re a man of many problems.
    “¬ß 2¬∫ O advogado tem imunidade profissional, não constituindo injúria, difamação ou desacato puníveis qualquer manifestação de sua parte, no exercício de sua atividade, em juízo ou fora dele, sem prejuízo das sanções disciplinares perante a OAB, pelos excessos que cometer”
    So, when one sees a sleazebag, one can call him a sleazebag.

  • #245140

    doctorlili
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven]”¬ß 2¬∫ O advogado tem imunidade profissional,
    So, when one sees a sleazebag, one can call him a sleazebag.[/QUOTE]
    This is getting quite funny. You really don’t see it. That every time you say this word, your self-righteous man-hating suckerdom gets stronger in you. And it becomes each time clearer how you hide behind positive law (and mythology about virtuous women) to not have to confront your issue. You’ll say it again, and it will happen again. You stop saying the word and only think it, it still eats you up from the inside.

  • #245142

    doctorlili
    Member

    This is an impressive demonstration of your anger.

  • #245143

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    You need to do a lot more than what you are doing right now to get me angry.
    You’re such a

  • #245144

    doctorlili
    Member

    Sven, dear, I know you well enough. The bigger and sillier the pictures the more you are at your end.
    There is little left to be said of course, because you hide your hostility behind your new-found immunity in the court room. One day I hope you will find better ways to feel good about yourself than defensive ad hominem rage or calling people “sleazebags”.
    Trying to imagine your actual age. … I guess it doesn’t matter. Squiddie2013-04-09 15:52:05

  • #245150

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    I’m really sorry you didn’t like the picture. I took my time to find a nice troll clown for you!
    I can confirm that you don’t know me at all. I haven’t even started. And there is no hidden hostility. It’s all there, on the forum.
    If you want to keep trolling, that’s not my problem really. Keep it coming. The number of fooks given is less than 0.
    I’m really sory for the people that have to live with you and your contracts limiting civil liability in a stable union.
    I’m also glad for you that you have forgiven your girlfriends kids father and that you are now paying in his stead. He must be laughing out loud while sipping his Margarita at the beach in Tijuana that you are paying for. Poor guy, dumped by your GF that cheated on him and then went and sued him for child support. He deserves that Margarita for that.
    You’re absolutely right, he’s not a sleazebag, nor a deadbeat dad, he was driven to deadbeatedness by his ex! It’s all her fault, and of course the fault of the law that makes him pay child maintenance.

  • #245153

    Marc Maserati
    Participant

    [QUOTE=sven]
    You obviously don’t know even a millionth of what goes on in family court in Brazil. Too bad you can’t get in as all sessions are closed, but believe me, it’s better than you tube
    [/QUOTE]
    Based on the content we get with Sky basic I’m surprised it isn’t broadcast already! Someone would pay to see that. Careers have been based on less on TV.
    -Marc

  • #245158

    doctorlili
    Member

    Oh Sven, how curious, when one from gringoes.com gets angry he pastes big pictures or accuses the other of being a troll. I though we were beyond that. Or, of course ad hom, always works, its a very adult choice, and gets the point across.
    All the while you savor the sleazebag on your lips. Meanwhile I wonder, the children about whom you claim to care so much with your jailing sleazebag yelling with immunity, do they ever come thanking you that you threw their sleazebag … ahem … dad … into jail?
    And you bloat yourself up as the moral judge of everyone, inventing stories (my namorada, the guy in Tijuana, etc.) to project your dismay of people and your hate. What does that do for you? Your point of your tirade is to prove that you are doing a good thing calling people sleezebags and putting them in jail.
    Was your dad a sleazebag?Squiddie2013-04-09 17:22:27

  • #245159

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=mmaser] [QUOTE=sven]
    You obviously don’t know even a millionth of what goes on in family court in Brazil. Too bad you can’t get in as all sessions are closed, but believe me, it’s better than you tube
    [/QUOTE]
    Based on the content we get with Sky basic I’m surprised it isn’t broadcast already! Someone would pay to see that. Careers have been based on less on TV.
    -Marc[/QUOTE]
    Come on Marc, don’t tell me you don’t like Novelas and Faustao!

  • #245162

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=mmaser] [QUOTE=sven]
    You obviously don’t know even a millionth of what goes on in family court in Brazil. Too bad you can’t get in as all sessions are closed, but believe me, it’s better than you tube
    [/QUOTE]
    Based on the content we get with Sky basic I’m surprised it isn’t broadcast already! Someone would pay to see that. Careers have been based on less on TV.
    -Marc[/QUOTE]
    Come on Marc, don’t tell me you don’t like Novelas and Faustao

  • #245164

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    inventing stories (my namorada, the guy in Tijuana, etc.)[/QUOTE]
    You came up with your namorada and how she was responsable for the breakup of her relationship and how you, the squidster, pay for her child because deadbeat doesn’t pay a penny.
    You spoke of foreign lands, so I took some poetic liberty and pictured him on the beach in Tijuana thinking of how good a person you are.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    to project your dismay of people and your hate. [/QUOTE]
    Hate…
    You’re so funny.
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]
    Was your dad a sleazebag?[/QUOTE]
    Yes!
    He stopped supporting me when I was 25 and finished college! Can you believe that?

  • #245166

    doctorlili
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven]You came up with your namorada and how she was responsable for the breakup …[/QUOTE]
    co-responsible, you see, in the world not everything is black and white, this is a difficult concept for you, I can see.
    [QUOTE=sven]You spoke of foreign lands, so I …[/QUOTE]
    It’s OK, you don’t need to defend yourself about every little thing.
    [QUOTE=sven][QUOTE=Squiddie]to project your dismay of people and your hate.[/QUOTE]
    Hate…
    You’re so funny.[/QUOTE]
    You are not finding this funny.
    [QUOTE=sven][QUOTE=Squiddie]Was your dad a sleazebag?[/QUOTE]
    Yes![/QUOTE]
    Sorry you feel that way.

  • #245167

    hoganti
    Member

    squid…didn’t you “rest your case” a few pages back?

  • #245169

    doctorlili
    Member

    Hpeak, you’re right. Sorry.

  • #245177

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=hpeak13] squid…didn’t you “rest your case” a few pages back? [/QUOTE]
    Nobody makes you read it!
    Squid is hilarious. People here at law school (at least those that understand English) find him funny. It’s a nice break between tests.
    And squid, yes, I find it funny. It’s so easy to push your buttons!
    This whole thing is a nice break when I’m studying, or like now, in between two tests.
    Ok, so your namorada is “co responsible”. Is the kid also “co responsible” or is it just his marvelous dady that is not keeping up with his obligations.

  • #245178

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie] Hpeak, you’re right. Sorry.[/QUOTE]
    Yes, quit here and move to the new empregada law thread, your opinion is wanted there!

  • #245179

    Anonymous

    [QUOTE=Squiddie]Yes, thanks for continuing to expound on your biases. It’s good to know. I really don’t like you at this point either.
    Married people and unprotected sex wasn’t directed at me, because I am not bashing people for unprotected sex. This might have been meant for my “friend” Esprit…

    QUOTE]

    Wot? Waddid I say? LOL
  • #245181

    agri2001
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Esprit]
    [QUOTE=Squiddie]Yes, thanks for continuing to expound on your biases. It’s good to know. I really don’t like you at this point either.
    Married people and unprotected sex wasn’t directed at me, because I am not bashing people for unprotected sex. This might have been meant for my “friend” Esprit…

    QUOTE]

     Wot? Waddid I say? LOL

    [/QUOTE]
    The way I read it is that the squid wants to have unprotected sex with you?

  • #245182

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    Bashing esprit for unprotected sex. Shame on you squid!

  • #245199

    hoganti
    Member

    [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=hpeak13] squid…didn’t you “rest your case” a few pages back? [/QUOTE]
    Nobody makes you read it!
    [/QUOTE]
    thanks for clarifying that. I had my doubts.

  • #245200

    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=hpeak13] [QUOTE=sven] [QUOTE=hpeak13] squid…didn’t you “rest your case” a few pages back? [/QUOTE]
    Nobody makes you read it!
    [/QUOTE]
    thanks for clarifying that. I had my doubts.[/QUOTE]
    No problem!

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    sven van ‘t Veer
    Participant

    [QUOTE=Squiddie] your self-righteous man-hating suckerdom gets stronger in you. [/QUOTE]

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