SPEED DATING
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Category: Brazil
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Topic: SPEED DATING
Posted By: Biedronka
Subject: SPEED DATING
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 14:46
| Because of high numbers of divorces in Brazile could it be good idea to create speed dating meetings business. How is the problem with coruption or some contributions paid for local gangs etc. Do you think I can meet with this during my business? I am interesting in Curitiba city |
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Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 20 April 2012 at 22:20
| How would speed dating reduce the number of divorces in brazil? |
Posted By: Biedronka
Date Posted: 21 April 2012 at 04:57
| Well I didn't mean to reduce number of divorces...just to set up speed date business as there are many potencial customers |
Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 21 April 2012 at 09:58
Haven't been in Brazil much have you.... |
Posted By: Biedronka
Date Posted: 21 April 2012 at 10:37
| We are group of young people passionate and working within public relation industry, frankly want to know better what potencial problems can meet on place |
Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 21 April 2012 at 11:01
| The fact that Brazilians are a very outgoing people and encounter no problems whatsoever to meet other people. |
Posted By: jess
Date Posted: 21 April 2012 at 12:55
The word "speed" (anything) and the word "Brazil" or Brazilian" don't even belong in the same sentence. 
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Posted By: Capybara
Date Posted: 21 April 2012 at 18:20
 ...I almost choked on my beer laughing!Brazilians definitely dont need an organization to help them hook up - I think its the second place national passtime, right after soccer.And lets not pretend that speed dating is about finding your 'soul mate.' OP ...look up the slang meaning of "ficar" and add the fact that there aint no shame in one night stands here...
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Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 21 April 2012 at 19:02
It's interesting that everyone seems to hold this opinion of Brazilians. It has a long history: carnival, etc. But, there seems to be no evidence to back that up. Check out some research on the subject: http://psych.mcmaster.ca/dalywilson/commentary_schmitt.pdf |
Posted By: Capybara
Date Posted: 21 April 2012 at 21:30
| Cara... didnt mean to stereotype. Just reflecting on personal experience... |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 09:11
You are not stereotyping anything its a fact..! Thats why the Portuguese fought so hard to stay and keep Brazil  ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 12:01
I am sure you are not, and I don't doubt your experiences. All of my carioca friends describe gringos as slutty, likely because of all of the sex tourists in Brazil, and my friends despise Brazil's reputation as a place where sex is casual. The studies seem to speak for themselves. Europeans are far more promiscuous than Brazilians. |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 12:35
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Really???
------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 12:50
Why don't you try reading for yourself.... |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 13:24
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I don't know what study to read up on but it would make no difference regarding my opinion. Most all studies, to some degree or other, are slanted to achieve their required objective which renders them useless. I can only tell you that you need to consult with the reality on the ground to realize that your contention is wrong. Yes I do live in Europe part of the year and also in Brazil and i disagree with you ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: Capybara
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 13:24
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I actually really appreciate the more open attitude sex (whether its here, europe or socal or anywhere else.) Much healthier from a psychological standpoint.
Thats why my comment about brazilians hooking up wasnt meant to be derogatory. At least in my experience, they just arent as hung up on 'the number' and there seems to be much less shame tied to sex in general. I like it. Again, just my observations! |
Posted By: Capybara
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 13:27
| Its especially hard to generalize with Europe, Cara. The sexual norms in Italy are drastically different from those in Spain, Norway, Ireland, etc... |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 13:38
It seems people on this board have an aversion to READING. I already posted this, here it is again, and it is just one study. http://psych.mcmaster.ca/dalywilson/commentary_schmitt.pdf Furthermore, your reality on the ground is your reality and that's it. It's just your perspective, I know. That's why formal research exists. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 13:39
Right. That's why I posted a link to a massive study so you could read more about it. |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 14:45
just the sample size of that study should be enough to make you stand up and take notice which confirms my doubts and makes it invalid as per you assumption. BTW I wonder how much money ole Shmidty got for coming up with this gibberish nonsense. ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 15:18
Oh, is the 14,000+ sample size smaller than the number of people you have personally interacted with and studied? A lot more valid than your anecdotes. |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 15:36
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THAT IS WORLD WIDE spread out over 48 countries. Look at the Brazil sample pool 39 men and 49 woman. What does that tell you or maybe your not very familiar with statistical studies. last time I checked there are over 200 million habitants in Brazil if you take the accepted breakdown that 49,6% are female that comes out to a little over 92 million are of the female sex. So lets say that half are of legal age to afford themselves the right to be promiscuous. That`s over 46 million females. Now according to you the study, having interviewed 49 woman holds validity? Also it is loaded with more then 28% of the respondents being females which also is a red flag because I don't know of too many woman, that would admit to being promiscuous, even some of the prostitutes will take issue with that. So believe what you want if it makes you happy as your argument is invalid along with that bullsh*t report that you posted. ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 15:38
As I said, it's better than your anecdotes. |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 15:46
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[/QUOTE] Oh, is the 14,000+ sample size smaller than the number of people you have personally interacted with and studied? A lot more valid than your anecdotes.[/QUOTE] I can assure you that I have bedded more then 49 woman here in Brazil which is the size of the sample pool that you are referring to so my opinion does have validity much more so then that quack that did the study solely to enrich himself and he has guys like you believing it ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 16:14
Oh, is the 14,000+ sample size smaller than the number of people you have personally interacted with and studied? A lot more valid than your anecdotes.[/QUOTE]I can assure you that I have bedded more then 49 woman here in Brazil which is the size of the sample pool that you are referring to so my opinion does have validity much more so then that quack that did the study solely to enrich himself and he has guys like you believing it[/QUOTE] Well, if you personally 'bedded' these women that certainly introduces some significant sample bias. Seeing as how you are willing to bed 'more than 49 women' places you on the extreme end of the promiscuity scale, it says your conclusions can hardly be considered the norm, and are therefore pretty useless. I am positive you don't have a university degree, as anyone who does knows that social science professors aren't wealthy. So, it's pretty baseless to say the author of the paper was 'enriching' himself. By the way, did you ever consider that all of the gringo sex tourists who come to Brazil and believe Brazil is the land of easy sex are influenced by others who really do become rich selling Brazil as a destination for easy sex? Seek and ye shall find. Sex tourists find sex tourism. |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 16:44
------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 16:52
I did not attack you. You said you had 'bedded' more than 49 women. I said, as is true, that this fact would put you on the extreme end of the promiscuity scale. Most people on earth do not have 49 partners in their lifetime. Furthermore, I did not judge you. I just said that your anecdote is not relevant as, judging by your own statements, you are not a representative member of the population, as people who have 49+ sex partners are on the extreme end of the promiscuity scale. Please do not attack me, as I did not attack you. Why would you be offended by what I am saying? All I did was question the belief held by many gringos that Brazilians have casual attitudes toward sex. You are the one who brought your sex experiences into the question, and I simply stated that they are not relevant. Instead of referring to my personal opinion, I quickly searched for formal literature on the matter. Instead of finding a study with contradictory results, you pointed to your own sexual history as evidence. Well, that's your choice, but I find it highly irrelevant because 1) it is just personal experience, and 2) due to the large number of sex partners you've had. Why did you mention you had so many sex partners if you would be so easily offended? I also did not call you a sex tourist. I said that people who come to Brazil with that in mind will find it. I made no judgments. I don't care what people do. I'm just questioning the stereotype. The fact that you have bedded 49+ women and your being a gringo only begs the question... Cheers |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 19:51
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Hmm.. isn't there more to life... ? ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 20:00
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Ok, I read the whole thread. There's some massive generalisation going on. I would say that it all depends on the person, family, needs, etc.. I don't really think Brazilian women are "easier" than any other nationality that I've spent time with. On the contrary to what you guys are saying, I really think male-female interaction (initial hookups) are the same as with any other nationality. Women are women and men are men wherever you go. Cara, 49 is not that many, especially for 20 somethings nowadays. I know guys that had that number when they graduated from High School in the US. There's a lot of variables in there too: what's acceptable for some may not be acceptable for others.  ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 20:50
Actually, 49 IS that many. All studies on the subject place someone who has 49 sex partners on the highest end of the promiscuity scale. It's a good thing neither of you are scientists or doctors... Bob, of course all people are different. That doesn't mean we cannot search for patterns and tendencies. How do you people think doctors treat illnesses? Are you unfamiliar with evidence-based practice? |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 22:53
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Should we start calling you Dr Phil?? Bwahahahahaha ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 22 April 2012 at 22:59
Probably not, I'm not a psychologist. I do, however, know how to read. |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 23 April 2012 at 08:23
This is probably why you're leaving / left. You can't seem to accept it that aside from a different language, Brazilians are just like everyone else. Things here appear to be "foreign" to you still. It's tough to shake off. But should you decided to come back to Brazil, just do things like a Brazilian. Forget the US. Forget the way things are done in other countries. Well, when you make some mega bucks in the US, you can invest your money in Brazil. Then Agri2000 can take you to his hangouts so you can hook up with some Brazilian women (or men OR the 3rd-gender), and increase your numbers to 49. ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 23 April 2012 at 09:39
I am in a stable relationship, and even if I weren't, I would never want to be with 49 women. It's this simple: gringos stereotype Brazilian women as easy. They go to Brazil looking for easy sex. I am challenging that stereotype with some evidence from a study. That really has nothing to do with me personally. |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 12:03
If you have some REAL statistics from REAL studies and NOT anecdotal evidence, I'd love to see them. Seriously, in every country I have lived, it was the same thing with no difference. People are people. If an American is coming to Brazil for sex, they are crazy. There are much better places . Actually, they don't even have to leave their own country!That being said, women are women. I know of several very hot single Brazilian girls if anyone is interested. They are middle class, educated, etc.. The problem is that here there are tons of guys that are unemployed, live with their parents, and prefer to play video games instead of moving forward in life. Unfortunate for them, I'm already taken. ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 12:07
I am the only one who has posted ANY evidence that is not anecdotal. Do you even know what that word means, bob? I never said Brazilians were different than Americans in some profound way. I said they are less promiscuous than people seem to believe. All I'm doing is challenging the gringo idea that Brazil is the land of easy sex. The fact that people react so harshly to that tells me that gringos hold that stereotype close to their hearts. |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 12:14
Send me some pics of them Bob so I can confirm your statement. I'm back on the market. ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 12:34
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It`s amazing how attention hungry this troll is.AKA @cara
------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 12:45
It seems you guys think a troll is someone who has opinions that differ from yours and is not afraid to express them. |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 13:55
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Speed dating would be an incredible business to run. I would bet substantially that it would be very profitable. ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 13:57
| how can you 'bet substantially'?? |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 14:13
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Well troll,
Brazilians love to engage socially, though very shy may very well interact socially in getting to know one another via speed dating. If you're looking to pick a fight I cannot bother the debate, not with you.
And, if your question is in regards to finance. I won't attempt to ru it in your face, you might tell on me. ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 14:22
What part of "bet substantially" you don't understand? Try to Google it. And yes you are a troll because you fit the perfect disposition of one. Google that one also ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 14:27
You deserve a bottle of Jwalker and a cigar! Please, indulge in either or both and take the day off!  ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 14:30
I'm not a troll, I'm just trying to help GD with his English. You can "bet substantially less/more than ...." You can "bet a substantial amount." You can "increase your bet substantially." Good luck with your English lessons! |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 14:57
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Are you trawling for an official amount so that you can raise or call? If you're so grammatical state the active or passive nature of my incorrect use of the 'double verb'..
Lol ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 15:04
I'm not "grammatical." Hahahaha. Where did you go to college, what was your GPA, and what did you major in? |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 15:08
Yes you are... Now just come out of the closet and admit it..!!!! ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 15:13
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Yes, indeed you are being that way. Your creating syntatic or morphological observation of my informal writing. Please, answer my original question to you regarding the double verb concept... Otherwise you are definitely trawling for attention, again..... ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 15:30
Commas make such a big difference... |
Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 15:34
still..... |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 15:36
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7, just because you're not my friend doesn't provide you with permisson to extort corrections out of me without reason! hahaha ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 17:27
Cara - You're kind of full of yourself, aren't you? Just because I don't want to be American, doesn't mean I don't have a clue to a few basic words in English. A long time ago, I passed the phase of wanting to try to show my intellect through my writing. Hmm.. that was my early twenties... Fortalez-Newf - you seem like the mover and the partier. Every other week, you say you have moved. Where is it now.. Kuala Lampur?  ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 17:33
Haha. What does this have to do with your desire to be or not to be American? Dude, not everything is about that! It's about understanding the place of anecdotal evidence in rational argument. If you think what I'm writing here is intended to show my intellect, you really underestimate me... This is a lighthearted conversation. If you consider reading something and understanding the word "anecdote" to be displays of intelligence, I don't think this will be a productive exchange after all. Cheers
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Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 17:33
This cara guy turns every post into a litigation for grammar, yet, has managed to specificy anything. The onus of burden of proof in that evidence of him trawling like a troll is far more available than anything else....  ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 17:38
"The onus of burden of proof"
GD, again, I am open to discussing things. Calling me a troll over and over is really an attack...That's fine, but don't expect me to cut you slack when you cannot clearly express your ideas. |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 17:46
Here you go again with your 'trawling'. This conversation started off with my commenting on the topic at hand, speed dating. You on the other hand have yet to specify, by definition, anything you're talking about and expect not to be known as a troll. Well good luck with that way of life... ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 17:58
I have made my ideas very clear. Somebody wrote that speed dating would not be a successful business in Brazil as Brazilians are very liberal with sex or that they simply "ficar" frequently and with no strings attached. I disagreed with that opinion, and I cited a peer-reviewed article showing that Brazilians are less promiscuous, on average, than those in many Western European nations. Nobody has been able to produce any real evidence to contradict what I have pointed out, namely that it is the GRINGOS who come to Brazil looking for easy sex who paint Brazilians are liberal when it comes to sexual mores. Do you, GD, have any evidence to contradict that point? |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 18:09
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Well as tortious this conversation is for me to endure. I will say that if you come to Brazil, looking for sex, be sure that you will be on many dates. Maybe if you read what you just wrote, instead of drinking ego juice from a troll cup, you might become aware of the reality, from personal experience, that Brazilians are social and open about it. I might suspect that you lack social interaction with 'real people' and are subject to imagining those experience. It might be the 'high' you get from ego juice in a troll cup, but who really knows... ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 18:10
Well Sponge Bobbler, if you must know I am off for 2 years for a nice contract in Kuala Lumpur most likely to return afterwards to Rio again. Will be very interesting to compare the 2 spots as SE Asia is my other favorite local to live and spend time in. Ah the life.... ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 18:31
I have been single in the US and in Brazil. Seek and ye shall find. Being social doesn't mean being promiscuous. The question was: Are Brazilians more or less promiscuous than those in other nations? Of course, each person is different, but we can do research to discover trends among specific demographics, etc. The results are in: Brazilians are actually less promiscuous than gringos portray them to be. |
Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 19:40
That's not dude, but Johnny talking
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Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 21:18
So what line of work are you in? Please don't tell me teaching English.... ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 22:20
I make hardcore pornography. My next movie will involve me and +49 brasileiras. Oh the life.... ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 22:27
| @Fortaleza-Newf Whatever floats your boat! I am not some conservative nutjob. I am just making a simple argument and supporting it with evidence. Too bad forum members have nothing intelligent to say about it and would rather call me names and attack me. Pretty childish. |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 22:43
You think you gain anything by being or acting like you do? Being a goof doesn't get you very far in life, I hope you learn that someday. Trying to attack grammar, syntax, and not replying with facts or direct evidence and in general being extremely annoying is in fact, extremely annoying. ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 22:45
On a side note do you think the good name for my upcoming film would be Jurassic Pork? ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 22:51
Is there room in the movie for me and Sponge?? I do have some experience you know..! BTW the 49+ that I mentioned was to make a point of that inane report that was posted by a conservative nut-job That had interviewed 49 Brazilian lasses. In actuality Its been 49+++++++++...(now lets see the ballistic comeback on how criminal and immoral I am ) ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 22:53
I am the only one who has provided ANY evidence regarding the topic being debated in this little bickering match. I am not on this forum to seek your approval, but rather to express my opinions freely. If you cannot handle that or respond intelligently, I will point out that you speak English quite poorly, so poorly in fact that your language often obscures whatever it is you are trying to say. If you want to participate in an adult conversation in English, first you have to learn to communicate your ideas. From what I read around the board, you certainly do not support yourself financially due to the acuity of your mind, and that is quite apparent from the way you continually insult without making any reference to evidence that may contribute to the discussion at hand. |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 22:54
You left out extremely obnoxious ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 22:55
Better to be obnoxious and correct than vulgar, abusive and irrelevant! |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 23:37
Not sure some random dude shabonking a sponge will fair well with audiences for my upcoming film. ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 23:42
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@agri2001
I am not even conservative. It's really inappropriate that YOU called me a nut-job. I have never called you any names. If you want to have sex with 49, 4900 or 49000 people, that's fine with me. It doesn't bother me AT ALL. All I said was, it's promiscuous gringos like YOU who paint Brazil as the land of easy sex. You are an anomaly in Brazil, where the average person has NOWHERE NEAR that many sex partners. Again, that's fine with me, doesn't bother me at all. I am just making a point about Brazil! Brazil is not the land of sex. It's the land where gringos go for sex. Big difference! |
Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 07:11
Many Brazilians I know would disagree with that. |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 07:36
That's a contradiction right there. You sound more like a Christian Conservative. Sometimes the views of these groups will leave you worse off, really. Do you think women really benefited from the feminist groups in the US? In the 1960s, a woman could stay at home and take care of the house and kids. Nowadays, a US Woman has to start a CAREER, work, take care of the kids, cook, clean the house, etc.. My point is that advice from groups is not always the best advice Grantham-Kurtz-Expat-Cara. I spent a solid decade of my life chasing around women, and for me, it's more like 1 x 49 to the 10th power. Promiscuity is actually the biological imperative for men. Restricting this only leads to pent up stress and emotional problems. I guess this kind of explains your current mental and emotional state. So for me, I had 1 decade of chasing women. That's enough for me, and probably the reason why I'm perfectly happy with my wife. Had I not "met" so many great women, who knows what I could be doing now. Just listen to Obama: "YES you can!!" <-- Yes you can Grantham-Kurtz-expat-Cara!! ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 10:58
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I'm not conservative, and I'm certainly not Christian. As I said many times, the questions is how Brazil is portrayed by gringos and sex tourists. I don't doubt that there are plenty of promiscuous women in Brazil, just as there are anywhere.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/27/in-brazil-its-often-more_n_161436.html RIO DE JANEIRO -- This is one of the world's most popular tourist destinations for many reasons: the iconic urban beaches, the bafflingly dramatic landscape, the bursting-at-the-seams music scene. The sex. Like it or not (and most locals don't like it), many men come to Rio with one thing on their minds. But are they there to hire prostitutes, as female friends back home might suspect, or simply to strut their masculinity in a sexually freer society, as they themselves like to think? While there are plenty of genuine love stories here between brasileiras and turistas, and plenty more cold fee-for-service transactions, it's often not a simple question of you-paid-or-you-didn't. There are many gradations on the romance-to-prostitution continuum. Take, for example, a scene that played out on the edge of Copacabana Beach last year. Two black Brazilian women, likely in their late teens, sit in bikinis near roasted-red tourists at a coconut-water-and-beer kiosk. My snap judgment: they're certainly poor, and probably prostitutes. Suddenly, one gets a cell phone call, shrieks in delight, and runs off gabbing. I strike up a conversation with her friend, whose name was Natalia, telling her I was a reporter interested in Brazilian women's relationships with tourists. Natalia thought that was quite a coincidence, because her pal just happened to be talking to a friend that was off to visit her Belgian boyfriend -- in Belgium. The two had met during his trip to Rio months ago and maintained a relationship over several more of his visits. Now he had flown her to Europe, marriage offer pending, to see if she liked it. Apparently, she loved it: she was getting breakfast in bed, overcoming her fear of riding a horse for the first time, and being treated like "a queen" by the man's family. Prostitute suddenly seemed like the wrong word. But so did innocent schoolgirl. Natalia, who also had dated many tourists, explained how the system works: Direct payment per sexual encounter is not common. Dinners, drinks, and gifts are."I like to combine utility with pleasure," she said. "The material aspect is part of it. But it is pleasant to be with a man who likes me, who treats me well." The ultimate prize, she said, is "to go away to another place, to have a good life." Belgium, apparently, qualifies. Later in my trip, I met Mylla Reys having a late night hamburger at a Copacabana snack bar. She was 18, and had come to Rio at 16 from the central Brazilian city of Goiania, escaping a bad marriage and chasing an acting dream. She, too, said she dated tourists. A week after she got to Rio, she said, she "fell in love" with an American musician in town on a gig. "I didn't have any desire to meet a foreigner, none," she said. But after meeting friends at the beach, she spotted a dreamy blond-haired, blue-eyed guy. She couldn't say anything because she didn't speak English, but she made sure he caught her staring. "He was very cold," she said. Cultural translation: He didn't come over to sweet-talk her. A male friend of hers suggested she go up to him and kiss him, but she refused. "In Rio, things happen like that," she said. "In my city, no." But friends broke the ice, and they all went out to eat. On the way back to the beach she dared to grab his hand. Still cold. Finally, she playfully pulled off his cap, and he pulled her in for a smooch. "It was the most beautiful kiss of my life," she said. They sat on the beach for hours, talking. Sort of. "He spoke and he spoke and I didn't understand anything," she said. The next night, they went out dancing at Rio Scenarium, a popular nightclub, and she stayed over at his hotel. Communication -- the verbal kind -- continued to be a problem until the next day, when they went to an internet cafe to use Google Translate. "I never imagined I would find a person like you here in Rio de Janeiro," she remembers him writing. They were together for a week, communicated by internet for a few months after that, and then he disappeared. Mylla was devastated, even asking me -- six months after they had last spoken -- what I thought had gone wrong. I gave a dishonest answer. Though she missed him, she had met, dated and slept with other tourists since (and even acted in a few plays). They sometimes gave her money and gifts, she said, but never directly for sex. "I don't ask," she said. "It seems cold. I don't think that the fact that you are a tourist means you should give me money. You're not my husband! The only difference is you're from another country." Most recently, she had been dating a Brazilian. So had she finally decided to kick the dead-end tourist habit and develop a lasting relationship? No, she said: she liked him because he had a nice car, expensive cologne, and plenty of money. |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 11:10
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Thanks for posting that article as it confirms as to what I have been trying to tell you and it disproves your position.
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Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 11:46
So if Brazil isn't the land of sex? Then what is the land, where gringos go for sex? Unreal.... I'm never speaking to you again, not ever! You are incredibly moronic and troll like in your posts, I cannot handle it.  ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 12:02
Good.... |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 12:07
You aren't so lucky, are you?  ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: SteelRat
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 12:35
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agri2001: offensive posts deleted. Please read the House Rules. ------------- Forum Administrator http://www.gringoes.com |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 12:42
Can you just try posting without calling me names? The house rules say you are not allowed to attack people like that. You called me "moronic" and that's offensive! |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 13:27
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CaraCryBaby - you report anything that calls you a crunchy fruit (nuts are fruit, right?) Grow up... ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 13:30
Why don't you grow up? Being an adult means following the board rules. They exist for a reason, to promote open discussion. I should not be subject to abusive attacks for expressing my opinion. |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 13:34
Nor should the subject be attacked if it weren't objectively annoying the HE(double hockey sticks) out of everyone. Isn't that right Spob! ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 13:36
We all know the world is not fair, rules are made to be broken, and honestly my only suggestion is you approach this situation in a more 'practical real world manner'. Nobody likes a 'snitch'. This is human relations 101. Now finally, back to the hardcore pornography session. ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 14:45
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Seriously? Are you guys children on a playground?
The purpose of the forum is to promote discussion. That cannot happen if a few members (GD in particular) regularly attack and abuse posters. Grow up! Rules are meant to be broken? Ok, accept the consequences. Plenty of people won't want to participate in the forum if members attack and abuse each other. So, that's why the rules exist! 
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Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 15:41
Isn't that illegal in Malaysia? I think the lightest punishment is a whipping. ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 18:39
I think you are ok in Malaysia as long as you don't go the route of Gary Glitter....ie. kiddy fiddling ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 18:45
You are going to miss it here no matter how many things you can afford there in Asia! Trust me!  ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 18:50
Mayby I can afford to bring my 49+ Brasiieira(s) to me when I see fit??!! I'll be back in a few years anyhow and have very generous vacation allowances in Malaysia while I am there with business class intercontinental flights paid. The porn business is certainly lucrative these days!!! ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: Gringodude
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 18:55
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I'm proud of 'Mike in Brazil'. haha! It has always been a dream of mine to run my own website. A very interesting concept to live the life of something we call would do in a heart beat. However, real life has its calling and we must adhere to it. I hope you get the chance to return to Rio and settle down here. I cannot see myself living anywhere else; being so young none the less I still feel at home! There are many trivial factors we are all aware of and that's ok! Take it one day at a time and it all works out for the best! ------------- Keeping the BrazilianLifestyle "Have a great day everyone" - Ray "You know who you are, now go and reflect!" - Esprit |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 19:24
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To be serious the move is a very good investment in coming back to Rio.....and if by some reason I find SE Asia even better I am sure the option will be there to stay longer as well. Either way I win. ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 19:44
Sounds great man, have a nice trip! Enjoy! 
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Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 20:32
Except the food. Nothing beats the SE Asian quisine, especially malayan/indonesian.... |
Posted By: cara0910
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 20:35
| @sven Exactly! |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 21:07
You forgot the cheap prices for goods, excellent and abundant accommodation, and 1st class service. ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |
Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 25 April 2012 at 21:16
They really make little difference to me, but the food on the other hand.... |
Posted By: agri2001
Date Posted: 26 April 2012 at 11:13
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Gee gone one day and i get a warning, wonder who`s the snitch Spend a lot of time in KL, when I lived in Indonesia and its a great city. @Fortaleza you must visit the the singing clubs or whatever thy`re called. They are huge with "hostesses" waiting to make friends but you must be careful of the transvestites. I remember going to one with a friend of mine and two hostesses came and sat at our table. Everything was going fine till I went to the bathroom to urinate and Thats when i saw the hostess that was with my buddy using the mens bathroom. Up until that point I, and certainly my friend, did not have any clue. I cant remember if he took "her" home that night or not as i was plastered myself. ------------- Athiests are moral, they don't kill over religion. |
Posted By: Fortaleza-Newf
Date Posted: 26 April 2012 at 11:54
Tee hee hee.. Me and my brasileira spent many an hours in Thailand drinking beers and snickering at the drunk expats making out with the local ladyboys. How can a guy not tell honestly???? Like really... Mayby it's an excuse for closet poofs to come out for a bit, blame it on the booze the next day, and then go back in the closet. ------------- Now Kuala Lumpur Newf!!! |