SUS card
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Topic: SUS card
Posted By: IRISH
Subject: SUS card
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 15:42
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can someone tell me what are the advantages of getting an SUS card .
its s lind of a medical card right ?
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Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 15:47
| What card is that? |
Posted By: Twirly
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 16:30
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SUS: Sistema unica de Saude.
Without it you will not have access to free public healthcare unless in emergency cases. Some private insurances companies also demands that you get this card as of last spring. On it they keep all your health history. Great idea and it works, at least in my hood. I'm using it to get a shoulder surgery FASTER than by private health care and at the same hospital. Private health care usually has up to 180 days mandatory waiting before you can use it for surgery. |
Posted By: Twirly
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 16:32
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You get the card for free by using your brazzer doc CIE or drivers license and a comprovante de endereço.
Takes 5 minutes at UBS/SUS/AMA and whatnot all the places are called. I used it today for a complete health check and all the blood tests you can imagine and it cost R$0. 1 week waiting time to see the doctor. @Sven: Read up if you want to work as an ambulance chaser 
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Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 16:56
DPVat pays next to nothing.... |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 17:42
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Wow Twirly, good to know. Thanks. I guess we can get back some of that tax money we pay after all! ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: Ferguson21
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 18:37
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Depends on the state where you live Twirly.
I've never heard of a free health check here. |
Posted By: nikkij12185
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 19:06
| There is a new clinica da familia near me that has been going door to door to register people and remind people (especially children and the eldely) to go get free checkups. No card needed. |
Posted By: Twirly
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 08:18
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@ferguson: That you have not heard of it does not mean it doesn't exist.
It is a national system. @nikki: I'm not sure if clinica da familia is in the SUS system. Of course some states does not have so good public healthcare as her in Saude São Paulo. So many people laugh at public health care without ever trying it. They just listen to whining brazzers and then sign up for an expensive private plan. Hospital Sirio Libanesa in Sampa joined the SUS system last week.
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Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 09:46
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Let them sign up for their Unimed plans!! I think the quality of SUS depends more where you live, and who is in charge of administering the plans and the *funds*. Crap administrator = crap SUS care. ------------- - ** Just sayin' ** ** Make lemonaid out of lemons. ** ** Trolls get old...** |
Posted By: Twirly
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 11:38
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^^Agreed, you really need to test out your local SUS before you scrap your private insurance.
But where I live it is really good. |
Posted By: IRISH
Date Posted: 04 February 2012 at 13:23
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thank you for the info.
i ve been having check ups without this card for many years now .
i was hoping that this card could help to allievate the huge cost of private surgeons
is it only for use with the public health care system ?
& what about gynicological issues?
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Posted By: Ferguson21
Date Posted: 04 February 2012 at 13:53
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My sister-in-law tried to visit a gynecologist:
First she went to the 'Posto de Saúde' in her neighborhood to visit a doctor to get a referral (encaminhamento médico) to visit a gynecologist. She went there at 6 in the morning and she had to line up in a queue of about 50 people (not enough chairs) At 9:00 the receptionist came and registered the first 20 people and gave them a little paper with a number with which they could come back the day after and visit the doctor. The rest of the people were sent home. My sister-in-law returned one week later to try again at 4AM. This time she got her number and was allowed to return the next day. The next day she had to be there at 7AM. She waited until 3PM and finally was allowed to see the doctor. She asked a referral to see a gynecologist which was no problem at all. The next day she went at 6AM to the gynecologist. Again she had to wait until noon when suddenly the receptionist sent everybody home because the gynecologist wouldn't show up that day because he was too busy with his private clinic. Next day the same story. Next day too many people, 90% was send back home. Finally she gave up and had to pay for the same gynecologist in his private clinic. |
Posted By: Twirly
Date Posted: 04 February 2012 at 14:10
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It is for public system only, if not there would not be a need for private insurance or private surgeons?
But the public and private system are often the same in many instances. Same hospitals, same surgeons. The bill goes to SUS or on your insurance. As to private surgery out of your pocket it will always be out of your pocket. Ask your local UBS about gyn services. @Ferguson: Sucks to live where she lives I guess. |
Posted By: ltjchicklet
Date Posted: 08 February 2012 at 12:44
| Slightly off topic... do any of you live in areas where the SUS clinics hang the washed medical linens outside to dry? Always creeps me out. Any ol gross germ can fly onto them! |
Posted By: deanwatts88
Date Posted: 14 February 2012 at 10:30
| Slightly off topic but I had to "test" the public health system in the small city we live way way deep in the interior of Parana with a emergency hospital visit last week and to my surprise I was cared for quickly, efficiently and I reakon with as much care as I would have got back home in a similar size town. Sure they lack some facilities but its a small town so that is to be expected. I expect that in the bigger cities it would be different and from the sound of the post above from Ferguson I certainly wouldnt want to live where she is living. I understand the prefeitura has a big impact on the quality of public health in each city? |
Posted By: sven
Date Posted: 14 February 2012 at 10:40
Most postos de saúde are municipal. Hospitals can be all three, municipal, state or federal. Most federal hospitals are linked to a med school of a federal univeristy and thus are more or less ok. Same holds true for the state hospitals. Municipal hospitals depend a lot on the town you're in. In Rio, Souza Aguiar, Salgado Filho and Miguel Couto really suck. |
Posted By: Twirly
Date Posted: 14 February 2012 at 11:27
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The hospital I use is federal and a university.
It is a bit worn down but the service is better than I'm used to back home. |
Posted By: ltjchicklet
Date Posted: 08 March 2012 at 15:31
| If I don't work and have a permanent resident card can I just use that with my CPF card to get SUS? I've lived here 4 years and haven't done it yet, and don't think we will be able to get Unimed anytime soon. I wonder how the maternity care is.... I've always been a little afraid of the care here ever since we took our son in to get a patchy spot on his forehead looked at and they just gave us a referral to a doctor at a nearby hospital to get it cut off.... Uhhh we get all the way to the door of the medical room and when they called his name we chickened out and went home haha. |
Posted By: nikkij12185
Date Posted: 08 March 2012 at 21:56
| Chicklet - CPF card won't work. You need a photo id, but even foreigners can be treated with their passports. |
Posted By: 3casas
Date Posted: 09 March 2012 at 06:26
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i think you might need to bring a prova de endereço, don't you? we've had nothing but good experiences once we got through the rigamarole of the "wait all day" for elective things. Emergency stuff has been really good when it counted. And here in Ctba the maternity stuff is awesome, as is well baby stuff- they come out to you. ------------- |
Posted By: nikkij12185
Date Posted: 09 March 2012 at 16:16
For urgent care at a hospital or UPA I've never heard of them asking for that and I have never been asked. For routine care, it depends on the place. I never needed one for a Posto de Saude in Rio or Campos, but I did need one for the new "clinica da familia" near our house. Technically, thehouse is outside of the reach of the shiny new clinica, but a great aunt with a spare room lives within the coverage area, so my husband and I had to pretend we live in her house in order to get treatment. |
Posted By: 3casas
Date Posted: 09 March 2012 at 17:06
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yeah, for urgent care they've never asked for anything, even took my kid when we didn't have her RG with us. I was supposed to go get the SUS card before we move (changing municipalities, and though we own a business in the one city it seems to be based on residence.... not sure if it is worth sitting in the posto for at least an entire morning to get the damn cards). they come and check to see if you live there, and it seems to be more intensive than my PF interview was for the SUS!! ------------- |
Posted By: Kaw19
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 21:57
| Thanks Twirly, good info. Do you know or could you do me a favor and ask around about this? Understand Unimed is indivdual, not employer group plan. Need to know whether or not they deny apps due to pre-existing conditions. Or maybe cover but have waiting period or waiting period for that condition. In U.S full coverage if had prior group coverage within 60 days (Would use SUS for general care but need particular since have a serious condition to assure fast, best care). Too chicken to call and ask Unimed:-) Anyone willing to call "for friend?" Spouse Brazilian & wants to move home, nervous. |
Posted By: Twirly
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 22:15
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Don't think they will deny you for pre existing conditions.
You will however have a waiting period for up to 2 years before they treat you for a pre existing condition depending on what your problem is. |
Posted By: Kaw19
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 22:25
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Is there a federal agency that regulates the insurance cos or a super well informed expat/U.S. help org that should know for sure about previous question? I hear my spouse can get insurance (has no medical issues) and it automatically covers family. But he was last there 20 yrs ago, may have changed. He doesn't recall any medical questions on app when had ins in Br.
We'll be sure to research well & locate close to good hospital and clinic. Can't handle heat so maybe Curitiba. |
Posted By: Twirly
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 23:17
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Not super informed but the health plan I was offered had a clause with an 18 months waiting period before treating a preexisting conditions.
No denial as to signing up for the plan. Public health care where I live helps me anyway. I'm on the waiting list for shoulder surgery now. Also having contacts helps you a lot as always. |
Posted By: Kaw19
Date Posted: 30 March 2012 at 01:22
| 18 mos better than 24! Hope surgery fixes u up, no more pain. Plan to establish with good speciaiist after finding out which one best for me. Then have them approve me through SUS system-bypass normal screening due to severity. That doc can coorordinate/explain where ever go in SUS system. Only fear is wait if health doesn't allow. Have a br conection already and will use. |
Posted By: 3casas
Date Posted: 30 March 2012 at 08:13
Why don't you email Unimed and ask? this is their Ctba site, and there is a "fale conosco" that surely has an email. http://www.unimedcuritiba.com.br/wps/wcm/connect/Portal/portal/planos-e-produtos ------------- |
Posted By: jacare
Date Posted: 30 March 2012 at 11:52
I have seen this issue addressed in the newspapers as it has changed. PROCON is probably where you would go for regulation after the fact - enforcement, complaints. May be they have something orientational. Often a good idea to Google in port. on google.com.br and be careful of old information. ------------- Em rio de piranha jacaré nada de costas. |