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Quote 3casas Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2009 at 13:34
can't condone what the woman did but i think the real snake in the grass is the padrasto.  the kid's been fed a lot of BS about how bad the US is and if he doesn't come out of this emotionally fried it will be a miracle.  bad enough to lose your mother but to become a political football-- bad bad bad.

i saw it on the news the other day and can't believe the kid is actually finally back in the US.
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Quote sven Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2009 at 14:27
All fair and square, what the mother did was wrong. Then the Brazilian courts (lack of knowledge of International Law) did the wrong thing. The American Dad's (initial)lawyer didn't improve things by having his client not file motions during several court cases.

This was one huge clusterf**k.

Brazil actually signed this treaty to get brazilian kids that where kidnapped back from abroad, but are/where totally unprepared for the other way around.

I hope Gilmar Mendes sentence makes some judges see the light.
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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2009 at 14:43

Sean and David have been in Orlando since they got back to the US.  They he has relatives there and spent a lot of time at Disney...that is where they went before he was kidnapped.

David was interviewed on NBC Monday.  Said Sean is adapting.  Can't wait to see snow in Jersey, worried about having a warm coat, hat, etc.  Has't called him dad yet, but David knows it takes time and is just thankful for his Christmas miracle.
 
Whent the Grandmother said she wanted to come on the plane, loved it that the US said no to a visa and Brazil said they weren't involved.  She asked to come and see hm in the US, and David said she could, "I won't keep him from you the way you kept him from me.  You will see that I'm a good dad."  Guy has a lot of class....
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Quote sven Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2009 at 15:17
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Guy has a lot of class....


Too bad granny doesn't she will try to "get custody" any way she can through Br courts.


What I found very strange is that the stephfather is supposed to have custody, but that the child (and the other child) live(d) with the maternal grandparents Confused


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Quote Guinness Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2009 at 17:58
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Guy has a lot of class....


Too bad granny doesn't she will try to "get custody" any way she can through Br courts.


What I found very strange is that the stephfather is supposed to have custody, but that the child (and the other child) live(d) with the maternal grandparents Confused
 
Id love to show my girlfriend some proof of this statement. Can you show me where you got this information pweez!
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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2009 at 19:04
Guinness...not sure of exactly shich statement you are talking about, but David's latest interview was Monday on the Today Show (NBC).    They have been following the case the best and even supposedly charted the plane that took them back to the US... 
I suppose the interview is somewhere on the net.
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Quote Guinness Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2009 at 22:16
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Guinness...not sure of exactly shich statement you are talking about, but David's latest interview was Monday on the Today Show (NBC).    They have been following the case the best and even supposedly charted the plane that took them back to the US... 
I suppose the interview is somewhere on the net.
Id like some sort of reliable source preferably in portuguese which states that he lived with his grandparents not his step father
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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2009 at 23:12
I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that they all lived together.  Part of the grandmother's statements included that 'in Brazil, grandmothers raise the children in case the mother isn't around' so she figured she had first chance at raising him.  I think that part was in some court documents....i paraphrased it, but the same idea.
 
I'm just not sure about the living together though...  I'll do some checking...
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Quote Guinness Replybullet Posted: 30 December 2009 at 05:33
Im not looking forward to the smear campaign against the biological father from the legal representatives of the grandparents...
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Quote sven Replybullet Posted: 30 December 2009 at 08:34
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Originally posted by MovingSoon

Guy has a lot of class....


Too bad granny doesn't she will try to "get custody" any way she can through Br courts.


What I found very strange is that the stephfather is supposed to have custody, but that the child (and the other child) live(d) with the maternal grandparents Confused
 
Id love to show my girlfriend some proof of this statement. Can you show me where you got this information pweez!


Was in yesterdays newspaper. O Dia

Found it again here:

http://home.dgabc.com.br/default.asp?pt=secao&pg=detalhe&c=5&id=5785675&titulo=Familia+brasileira+decide+manter+disputa+por+Sean+Goldman

Tostes informou que vai entrar no STJ (Superior Tribunal de Justiça) recorrendo da decisão do TRF-2 (Tribunal Regional Federal da 2ª Região) que determinou a entrega de Sean ao pai. "Caso os tribunais superiores venham a modificar a decisão do TRF-2, a família confia em que serão tomadas pelas autoridades brasileiras todas as medidas para que haja o retorno imediato de Sean ao Brasil", diz a nota.
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