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drdavido
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Topic: Declaração do Imposto de Renda Pessoa Física & CPF
Posted: 15 April 2009 at 10:56

Hi there, I have been here in Brazil around a year and a half. I have a CPF and am waiting for my visa application to be processed (what a wait!). I was just wondering if anybody knows whether I have to do a tax declaration or something like that, it being the end of the tax year and all of that.

To be honest I'm well confused! There seems to be little information on this subject. I don't know if i'm ok just doing nothing or if i need to make a declaration of earnings (which by the way is zero as I'm not working). Any pointers or advice would be useful.

Thanks in advance

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AkuTyger
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 20:54

As far as I remember, you have to file your taxes to keep your CPF valid, and I'm pretty sure you can do them online, but I'm not sure you can do them without a valid ID number.

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Iainluxford
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Posted: 16 April 2009 at 11:02

I belive there was recently a post about this and that the law had changed ... and you no longer need to complete a "tax return" however the new process hasnt been finalised......im not 100% though.....i too am in the same boat so any confirmed answer would be great!

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Mineiro_Alemão
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Posted: 16 April 2009 at 18:20

Originally posted by drdavido

There seems to be little information on this subject.

That´s not true. Actually it´s quiet simple.

In case you have earned more than R$ 16.473,72 in 2008 in Brazil you are required to file your anual tax declaration (DECLARAÇÃO DE IMPOSTO DE RENDA) untill 30/04/2009 via internet.

Also if you are a partner (sócio) in a Brazilian company, no matter how much you earned or you have assets in Brazil with a value of R$ 80.000,- or more you are required to do the tax declaration. No matter if you earned R$ 1,- or R$ 100.000,- in 2008.

In case you are below the income tax minimum of R$ 16.473,72, you don´t have to do anything. Since 2008, the tax free declaration (DAI DECLRAÇÃO ANUAL DE ISENTO) doesn´t exist anymore.

More information:

http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/PessoaFisica/IRPF/2009/Perguntas/Default.htm

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drdavido
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Posted: 16 April 2009 at 19:28

Wow! Thanks for the comprehensive info. That means I'm ok as I am then, ie doing nothing!!!

Cheers

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nikkij12185
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Posted: 17 April 2009 at 04:22

Drdavido, is it mere coincidence that you posted this topic on Tax Day? ;)

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Stunning
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 15:22

Originally posted by Mineiro_Alemão

In case you are below the income tax minimum of R$ 16.473,72, you don´t have to do anything. Since 2008, the tax free declaration (DAI DECLRAÇÃO ANUAL DE ISENTO) doesn´t exist anymore.

I have a CPF number and earning below R$ 16.473,72.
As long as I remain below this amount and am not completeing any tax returns will my CPF number remain active forever??

Regards
Lee

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Mineiro_Alemão
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 16:32

Originally posted by Stunning

I have a CPF number and earning below R$ 16.473,72.
As long as I remain below this amount and am not completeing any tax returns will my CPF number remain active forever??

Regards
Lee

Yes Lee,

for the moment you don´t have to do any declaration. And as long as the RF does not come up with a new type of declaration.

BTW, the max. value for the income will be adjusted each year. The amount of R$ 16.473,73 refers to the year 2008.
Next year the value will be a different, according to the income tax regulations.

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DUNGA
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Posted: 05 May 2009 at 00:12

Don't forget that if you become a permanent resident (get your permanencia by virtue of marriage for example) you must file for the year that took place irrespective of lack of income or assets.

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jacktokyo
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Posted: 05 May 2009 at 01:39

Originally posted by Mineiro_Alemão

or you have assets in Brazil with a value of R$ 80.000,- or more you are required to do the tax declaration. No matter if you earned R$ 1,- or R$ 100.000,- in 2008.

For those with permanent visas I believe you have to declare your worldwide assets every year that are over 80K - not just those in Brazil - even if your income is not above the taxable threshold here. Could be wrong.

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