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    Posted: 15 July 2007 at 22:49
i've recently read in a magazine article about an american guy who moved to brazil to work. While working there he got the girl he was living with pregnant. after returning back to the u.s. he recieved a letter that the mother was taking him to court for child support.


can this happen to a person from the uk if they have a child in brazil without a marriage?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote supermary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2007 at 00:33
i think this can happen to anyone as long as they are registered as the kid's father, or as long as it is proven that he is indeed the father, regardless of marriage, cuz.. .ya know, you don't have to be married to have a kid, so you shouldn't have to be married to be partially responsible for it's upbringing, regardless of where the hell you are living. plus you'd have to be one hell of a bad dad to try to weasel out of your responsibilities by moving to another country and just hoping you get off the hook on paying alimony. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bahiana77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2007 at 00:41

One useful word to learn in Portuguese: "camisinha"

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DUNGA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 July 2007 at 02:31
Originally posted by abovethelaws abovethelaws wrote:

can this happen to a person from the uk if they have a child in brazil without a marriage?

I hope so...
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Yes, thankfully Brazil and the UK have a recipricol enforcement agreement for child maintenance.

http://www.csa.gov.uk/en/setup/remo-countries.asp


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Originally posted by Bahiana77 Bahiana77 wrote:

One useful word to learn in Portuguese: "camisinha"

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   Just to let you know,  2+ years of living together, girlfriend has the same legal rights as a wife in Brazil.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Patricia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2007 at 00:30
Originally posted by Denise Denise wrote:


   Just to let you know,  2+ years of living together, girlfriend has the same legal rights as a wife in Brazil.
 
Not quite...
 
There's actually no time frame for "união estável", nor is it required that the couple live together...
 
The idea behind this is that a couple that presents themselves in society is considered to have similar rights to those of a couple married under the partial asset separation regime.
 
If anything about this topic worries you... I second the advice above... familiarize yourself with the "camisinha"!
 


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Originally posted by Denise Denise wrote:


   Just to let you know,  2+ years of living together, girlfriend has the same legal rights as a wife in Brazil.


There is no law about "2 + years". The law requires "living together as a family" which can be even after two days.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nevergoingback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2007 at 07:20
But this 2 year 'hear-say' is in the public domain so is this an unofficial time period used as legal cut-off if the relationship breaks down and lawyers are called in?   I know a German guy who lives in Rio and was co-habiting with his girl-friend but made a point of ending the relationship after 23 months in order not to have to pay maintenance.  Was he wrong or ill-informed?

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