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    Posted: 20 October 2006 at 01:04

I would appreciate if someone could share their experience with me if they have already been through the process. I am from the U.S. and married a Brazilian woman. NVC approved DS-230 and I-864 the last week of September. NVC told me that the Rio consulate will getthe package in 2-4 weeks. In my letter from NVC it states a priority code of CR1 and a priority date of November 2. What does the date mean?

When can my wife expect further instructions from the consulate?

I know she will need federal police records and a medical examination from a consulate certified examiner. What will the examination cost and what are the probable locations for the examination?

What is the expected time of events that will bring us together forever?    

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Quote Mineiro_Alemão Replybullet Posted: 20 October 2006 at 18:07
Well, I can´t say anything about processing times and procedures of the consulate or NVC.

About the medical exam, you will find a list of all documents, including the list of doctors, on the website of the US consulate in Rio de Janeiro :

http://www.embaixada-americana.org.br/index.php?action=mater ia&id=2415&submenu=rio.php&itemmenu=58

Well, the list is based on the K1 (fianceé) visa, but as I´ve heared it´s almost the same list as for the K3 (spouse) visa.

LIST OF DOCTORS
http://www.embaixada-americana.org.br/pdfs/ListMedNew_06.pdf

I´m not sure if there is a standard price, but I guess it will be around US$ 100,- for the exam.



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Quote Jared_James Replybullet Posted: 20 October 2006 at 20:39
Thanks for replying. What about the cost of the blood test? Besides the 100 dollar exam, what about the blood testing and all the other medical tests? How much? Can this number vary from doctor to doctor a lot? Can anyone please tell me what they have paid for these services?       
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Quote Jared_James Replybullet Posted: 20 October 2006 at 21:41

I have asked this question because my wife has told me that it will cost 1300 U.S. dollars for her to travel 9 hours to Curitiba and have all the required testing and exams done. 

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Quote Camzao Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2006 at 00:48
That seems like alot of money. Has she told you where all the money is going?
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Quote Jared_James Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2006 at 08:36
Not in detail. I have asked by email for a break down of the expenses. She said Curitiba is 9 hours away. She lives in Santa Catarina. I have not been able to view the list of doctors or the ds 2001.  Would it be possible for someone to paste at least part of these things for me. Then I would have an idea of who to call in Brazil to confirm these things. I want to trust, but I feel the need to verify too. I do think it is possible that she has changed her mind and with the interview date near, she cannot lead me on much longer. 1300 dollars is about what she would need to live on until she could land another job in January. I hired and later fired a bad immigration attorney that dragged out this process way too long. She quit her job prematurely because the attorney lied about when she would be here and I have been supporting her for a significant time because of this. I have three children ages 5, 6, and 9. My 6 year old is autistic. I would not blame her for backing out. I am thinking about asking about her intentions. If she wants out, I will still support until January. I just want honesty.   
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Quote Mineiro_Alemão Replybullet Posted: 21 October 2006 at 13:00
Hi,

well $1,300 is a lot of money. Lets see if we can break down the costs.

As I said, the exam is $ 100, the other lab exams (like blood tests, a chest x-ray, vaccinations) are done by private labs, doctors usually don´t do that in Brazil. So you wife can choose a private lab in her hometown or nearby, which doesn´t require a trip to Curitíba! The prices of the labs may vary, so a price research is recomended. But I guess the cost of thoose exams won´t be more than another $100.
I recomend that your gf checks with that doctor in Curitiba which labs are recognized by the US consulate, because the above mentioned flyer doesn´t say anything about the labs.

I´m not familiar with prices for a bus ticket from your gf´s home to Curitiba and back, incl. maybe a night in a hostel in Curitiba. So I can´t say anything about that. But I guess for bus and hotel (if nesccessary)$ 500 should be enought.

Belowe I paste for you the content of the medical flyer of the Consulate:

Originally posted by US Consulate, Rio de Janeiro


MEDICAL EXAMINATION INSTRUCTIONS:
In order to be eligible for an immigrant visa, you and your accompanying relatives included in the process must undergo a medical examination. It is necessary to conduct blood tests, a chest x-ray, vaccinations and a physical exam (including basic gynecological and breast examination).
The applicants must present their passport to the doctor and to the lab as proof of identity. If the passport is not available, the Brazilian ID or the equivalent for non-Brazilian citizens can be used.
Applicants should present a 3x4cm picture to the doctor at the moment of the clinical examination and inform the case number, if available.
The doctor’s fee is paid directly by the applicant. It cannot exceed US$ 100.00. Laboratory fees are also paid by the applicant.
The medical examination is generally valid for one year. In some cases the validity is only six months. This generally occurs when the applicant has some kind of illness.
The sealed Medical Report must be presented on the day of the interview.
See below the doctors’ addresses, listed by city:

BELO HORIZONTE:
Dra. Juliana Barbosa Cançado
Tel: (31)3224-2335
R. dos Otoni, 927 6º andar - S. Efigênia
30150-270

Dra. Mª da Gloria B.C. Maakaroun
Tel: (31)3224-2335
R. dos Otoni, 927, 6º andar - S. Efigênia
30150-270

BRASÍLIA:
Dr. Francisco Airton B. de Oliveira
Tel:(61)245-3133
Centro Clínico Sul - Torre II
Q. 716 Sul conj L. sl. T 0219 Piso da Praça
70390-700

CURITIBA:
Dra. Mirian Tomoko Matsuno Carvalho
Tel. (41)3264-9976
R. Alm. Tamandaré, 999 - Alto da XV
80040-110


RECIFE:
Dr. Paulo de Almeida
Tel:(81)3231-0104 / (81)3423-1825 / (81)3423-0951
R. Iramaia 1156 - Ilha do Leite
50070-530
E-mail: palmeida@elogica.com.br

RIO DE JANEIRO:
Dr. Alexandru Buescu
Tel:(21)2527-3477 / (21)2266-5340
R. Barão de Lucena, 48 sala 7 - Botafogo
22260-020

Dr. Aurelio Garrido
Tel:(21)2274-8641 / (21)2490-4310
Av. Ataulfo de Paiva, 135/904 - Leblon
E-mail: garrido@pobox.com
22440-010

Dr. Joaquim Duarte
Tel:(21)2533-1311
R. México, 21/1901 - Centro/Castelo
20031-144

SÃO PAULO:
Dr. Celso Rodrigues Fava
Tel:(11)3120-7065 / Fax:(11)3120-5407
Av. Angélica, 2503 - 14 andar Cj. 144 - Higienopolis
01227-200

Dr. João Jorge Leite
Tel:(11)3663-0404 / (11)3661-9522
R. Sergipe, 441 sala 111A – 11 andar - Higienópolis
Internet: exame-medico-visto.cjb.net
01243-001

Dr. Edwin Castello Filho
Tel:(11)3884-9132 / (11)9945-4856
R. José Maria Lisboa, 861 sala 104 - Cerqueira Cesar
E-mail: edwcf@sti.com.br
01423-001


If you are interested in a US imigration lawyer, send me a PM, I´ll pass you the name and address of a very good one in the US to assist you and your wife through the K3-process and also in the future process of adjustment od status and Green Card process.

GOOD LUCK!

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Quote Jared_James Replybullet Posted: 22 October 2006 at 10:06

Thank you Mineiro,

I was recently able to view the information from the consulate website. I emailed two of the doctors asking for firm pricing on all the services the consulate requires. I figure if they are consulate certified, they may offer one stop shopping or contract out what they don't do. I am trying to get someone in Brazil to call the doctor in Curitiba for firm pricing too. I will call if I have to do so. My  portuguese is not very good and requires a very patient person, but I can communicate these things. 

I will never hire an immigration attorney again. I was burned real bad once. I hate attorneys in general.    

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Quote DUNGA Replybullet Posted: 22 October 2006 at 10:48
Where I am, blood tests are done at an independent lab unless you are in the hospital. They draw the blood there at the lab and you pay there. If I remember correctly it is R$15 per test. There is no SMA-12 or 20 with 'package' price, you pay say 20 x 15. of course there are other tests like urine but they all seem to work out to be about R$15. Of course it may be different in Curitiba.
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Quote Jared_James Replybullet Posted: 22 October 2006 at 23:51
The 1300 hundred includes the 500 I have been sending her to live on each month. She quit her teaching job prematurely and then turned down another job later because my old negligent attorney blatantly lied to me about when my wife would be here. Below is an email from one of the approved doctors. His prices do not appear to include the mamogram and gynecology exam. She gave me a price of 50 dollars more than this doctor. She gave me approximate  prices of  150 reais for a gynecology exam and 300 reais for a mamogram. 300 reais for 2 days in a hotel in Curitiba and travel expenses. It is looking much more reasonable now. I was a little shocked at first with the 1300 request without details. I knew there were some exam expenses but did not think it would be this much largely because i did not expect them to test so much. I hope this helps others prepare for this moment in the immigration process. It is not fair that ten's of millions of illegal, illiterate people cross the Mexican border without any of these expenses. Then get offered amnesty for breaking the law and amnesty for not paying taxes. They also bring into the country diseases that were eradicated decades ago. This is totally unfair to those that wish to obey the law.     
 
Medical consultation is US$ 100
Expenses with lab work, X ray and vaccines around US$ 200
Please ask the aplicant to cal to 21-22748641 (1PM - 7PM) to get all the information
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