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Rebroker@sampa
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Posted: 13 May 2013 at 20:34

Owner is bound to perform repairs. You still cannot get out from under the lease. It has to be severely unlivable for you to have a shot from getting off the hook.

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Posted: 13 May 2013 at 20:49

Originally posted by ObviouslyGYN

Originally posted by Rebroker@sampa

In RE law, there is no such thing as material disclosure that if unconcealed would force to landlord to let you off the hook.

Does this apply to property sales as well (like a seller's disclosure statement in the US)?

Originally posted by Marcos989

I learned the hard way. Rented an apartment just to learn that nearby was a church so that twice a week from 9pm-3am I had to listen to the indoctrinated holler'in to jeeezzzzuuusssss every damn week.

Yeah I lived down the street from a Mosquee in Rabat. Singing twice a week? Try the opening scene from Lion King five times a day, starting at 5am.

As far as due dilligence, here and Stateside, buyer must take measures to verify the place of dwelling is fit for residences. Moreover , at least in the States, no broker or owner can make any claims on the safety, racial make up, or class characterization of the neighborhood (fair housing Laws ).

Buyers are only exempt on due dilligence from non disclosed property material deffects, concealled or undisclosed by seller.

Renters have to prove far and unequivocally dwelling unit is unfit for residence

You don't like the Loud Haitian Baptiste Church Sunday Services next door? The dude next door is an aspiring drum rocker on Mom's basement? Tôo bad. Live with it.

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Posted: 14 May 2013 at 07:12

Unless the drummer kept quiet when you where visiting because the seller asked him to.

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sven
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Posted: 14 May 2013 at 07:29

Renters have to prove far and unequivocally dwelling unit is unfit for residence

It depends, courts in Rio de Janeiro are much more inclined to the renter and to the existence of "dano moral" than courts in São Paulo, and have a much broader interpretation of art 22 of law 8245.

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Lars Rubensburg
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Posted: 14 May 2013 at 09:44

Broke mine after 3 months.
Cited noise pollution.
She said no.
I left anyway !!
Leave if ya must !!

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Posted: 14 May 2013 at 09:51

Originally posted by Lars Rubensburg

Broke mine after 3 months.
Cited noise pollution.

Too much Junkadoo???

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MouraKatia
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Posted: 16 May 2013 at 00:30

I always have a clause which states that after 12 months the contact can be terminated by the leasee without a fee payment. Most of renters accepts that. And in my case I have 30 days to notice if I found sth wrong with the apartment.
I do believe it's possible to terminate the contract in the first month without paying the whole penalty amount. If not, something to be included in the next lease contract.
Good luck, guys!

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Posted: Today at 10:58

I have not rented any place yet here in Sao Paulo but was surprised about the 3 years contract. But from what I've heard it's the normal thing.
I cannot imagine that you engage yourself for so much time, and for other reasons than the noise caused by your neighbor, for example if you change of job and have to live in the other side of the city.
So I am happy to know that it is possible to put a clause like you said Mourakatia.
Do others have done the same with their contract?

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Posted: Today at 11:35

Originally posted by goudmatt

I have not rented any place yet here in Sao Paulo but was surprised about the 3 years contract. But from what I've heard it's the normal thing.
I cannot imagine that you engage yourself for so much time,

Simple, it's to protect the landlord from automatical continuance of the contract.

Originally posted by goudmatt

So I am happy to know that it is possible to put a clause like you said Mourakatia.
Do others have done the same with their contract?

Few landlords accept a clause like that.

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