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    Posted: 08 August 2012 at 17:02
Hi there,
My husband's company is offering him a job in Joao Pessoa. When we heard about this opportunity - we were initially very excited. We both have talked about living outside of the US and what an amazing experience that would be. However, the more i hear about Brazil and Joao Pessoa in particular, I am not so sure a move would be good for us. If we had no children, I think it would be much easier to make the move.

We have 2 small children and are expecting a third. My first concern is for their safety. Exactly how much of an adjustment will it be for them and us to move from the US to Joao Pessoa -it seems crime is almost accepted a a way of life down there?

The assignment in Brazil would be for 3 years so both children would enter school in that time. Are there any private, International schools in this area? It's my understanding that there is not a large expat community in Joao Pessoa and this concerns me as we would be relocated quickly and have to learn Portuguese along the way.

Another question I have is, I have two horses that I would want to bring with me. I just purchased my ISH horse after looking for three years and I cannot imagine leaving him behind. I compete in show jumping and my horses are pretty high maintenance. Does anyone know anything about show jumping/dressage prospects in Joao Pessoa? (I'm guessing the options are nil) or even trusted stabling for horses?

We are struggling with this decision as expat work has always been something we wanted to try...but with such young children and my nice new horse....we are very torn. Any insight you could offer would be appreciated.

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Quote Solteropolitano Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2012 at 17:54
You may be able to get a good deal of the info you are looking for about Joao Pessoa from a group that was formerly on this forum:
including about schools.
 
As a former competetive rider and horse lover, I can understand your concern for your horses. Some cities do have equestrian clubs. My friend has her horse in a very nice one currently, but almost lost him when a rural relative with whom she was boarding did not feed the rations she had provided. You still see many horses used for work and transportation in Brazil, and staked out at grass at the edge of the road (even within city limits) as their only feed, all very thin, ribs showing, and no one seems to think that unusual. It's my understanding that a lot of the competetive show jumper folks train in the US or Europe, but I may be mistaken.  I think if I were in the position of being out of my own country for 2 years, I'd think seriously about finding someone loving and trustworthy to lease my horse, instead of shipping him all that way. You are probably used to having to haul him to shows, and if you could find any,  I can state that I don't much like even driving a car under the conditions in Brazil, let alone pulling a trailer. But maybe check out the Tambaba Country Club in J.P. for boarding. They have some sort of equestrian center.
 
I've been to J.P. myself a few times and it seems very tranquil, and has enough things going on to be interesting, great beaches, a nice place to raise a family, IMO. I have read there is a bilingual international school now.
 
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Quote cmeow Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2012 at 18:50
Thank you for the information. I've spent some time on the website you mentioned but will check it out again.

I know that, if we move to Brazil, I will most likely have to leave my horses here. There is a good barn for them and I could pay for full training for my young horse and know that he would be well educated and cared for. But it's hard to imagine doing that after searching for him for so long

Plus I suppose I fear that if I stop riding...I may never go back.

My husband will be in JP in week after next so hopefully he can get a good feel for the city. We've been all over the map with this decision. Quite honestly, much of the information on this site and others is scary!
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Quote Gringo.Floripa Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2012 at 23:05
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As a former competetive rider and horse lover, I can understand your concern for your horses. Some cities do have equestrian clubs. My friend has her horse in a very nice one currently, but almost lost him when a rural relative with whom she was boarding did not feed the rations she had provided. You still see many horses used for work and transportation in Brazil, and staked out at grass at the edge of the road (even within city limits) as their only feed, all very thin, ribs showing, and no one seems to think that unusual. It's my understanding that a lot of the competetive show jumper folks train in the US or Europe, but I may be mistaken.  I think if I were in the position of being out of my own country for 2 years, I'd think seriously about finding someone loving and trustworthy to lease my horse, instead of shipping him all that way. You are probably used to having to haul him to shows, and if you could find any,  I can state that I don't much like even driving a car under the conditions in Brazil, let alone pulling a trailer. But maybe check out the Tambaba Country Club in J.P. for boarding. They have some sort of equestrian center.



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Quote Gringo.Floripa Replybullet Posted: 08 August 2012 at 23:06
Originally posted by cmeow

Thank you for the information. I've spent some time on the website you mentioned but will check it out again.

I know that, if we move to Brazil, I will most likely have to leave my horses here. There is a good barn for them and I could pay for full training for my young horse and know that he would be well educated and cared for. But it's hard to imagine doing that after searching for him for so long

Plus I suppose I fear that if I stop riding...I may never go back.

My husband will be in JP in week after next so hopefully he can get a good feel for the city. We've been all over the map with this decision. Quite honestly, much of the information on this site and others is scary!


   Scary indeed!    Confused  Confused  Confused

EDIT: Would either you, or Solter-whatever, happen to know our dear friend 'Ray'?!?  I think he has firsthand knowledge about the NE....   Wink




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Quote Nielly Replybullet Posted: 09 August 2012 at 19:03
you gonna like   joćo pessoa, is a great and quite city. dont worry about school. we have   many good schools.
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Quote nonure1206 Replybullet Posted: 14 August 2012 at 12:08
A linguagem uvas grau de tempo integral, recomendamos que os alunos de trabalho de Angola pode ir para a escola para ver.
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Quote Solteropolitano Replybullet Posted: 14 August 2012 at 12:13
Originally posted by nonure1206

A linguagem uvas grau de tempo integral, recomendamos que os alunos de trabalho de Angola pode ir para a escola para ver.
 
Well, there's a good advertisement for learning Portuguese to a functional level.
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Quote sven Replybullet Posted: 14 August 2012 at 13:34
Originally posted by nonure1206

A linguagem uvas grau de tempo integral, recomendamos que os alunos de trabalho de Angola pode ir para a escola para ver .



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Quote Squiddie Replybullet Posted: 14 August 2012 at 14:47
What was going on with "our dear friend Ray"?

I was given a horror-story about Joćo Pessoa just yesterday here. What to do with these horror stories? I have no friggin clue.

I would think safety and all depends on where you would live. If your husband has colleagues there that are about your social class, I am sure they will help you to get settled in and learn the ropes and find the schools, etc.

Your kids being young (less than 5) will learn Portuguese in a breeze and you should definitely give them that chance. No English speaking preschool and school please!! Where in the US does a kid have a chance to learn a language easily?? It's such a hopeless thing here. My son is bored in middle school Spanish class and could be fluent if the US schools wouldn't crap up foreign language the way they do.

About the horse, I think the most difficult thing will be to bring it over the border, to and, especially fro. If you can find a fazenda with horses, you might have them close by. My sort-of ex namorada grew up on the country side and had a horse. When I traveled along the beach highway, I saw few if any horses. In Rio zona oeste the calip-calop sound was heard on a daily basis from the street. That is certainly not where you want your horses to live. But I would think a Fazenda with other horses might do. But mind you, they are going to feel hot.




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