I love it when it starts getting shouty on here - I am sitting here thinking 'Go on! Say something nasty about his momma or something!' or 'arrange a meet outside Debenhams at 10am for fisticuffs!'

There's never a dull day on Gringoes..   

Originally posted by Amsterdam     Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute - Josh Billings

I'm back in Brazil next month so the offer still stands for that free Acai you poor sod on me.

Edited by Fortaleza-Newf - 13 July 2012 at 00:33

Originally posted by Amsterdam Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute

So what you're saying is that you found it difficult to refute my supposed silence? 

Some people DO have a social life, and don't sit at their computer all night long, yearning for a reply to their post.  Sorry to have kept you waiting…. 

Originally posted by Amsterdam I don't think you will find that palms like flood plains either, they dont like wet trunks, access to water via their roots yes, but i think their trunks rot in alot of water with poor drainage, which is why the sandier beach soil is better because it drains.

That's quite strange, because I could swear those were coconut palms I saw when I visited Vietnam, growing prolifically on the Mekong Delta, which is a vast flood plain.  By definition, a flood plain receives large quantities of water for a very brief period (which then quickly drains away).  While it is indeed true, coconut palms prefer sandy soils, and since tolerant of salinity, coastal beaches do make good environments for them, they can nonetheless survive in a range of soils, and can even tolerate temporary flooding (in spite of some people's misinformed opinions).  So before Dr. Hamster Doolittle of the plant world passes pronouncement on the growth habitat of coconut palms, he might want to expand his knowledge beyond the limited 200km coastline of Alagoas. 

Yet I must confess, having never done it, I know absolutely nothing about farming coconuts.  But given the facts about agua de coco's growing popularity, I do think it would be an excellent crop to invest in!  And as Agri said, low key when it comes to labor needs.

A very informative link for anyone who might want to venture into raising coconuts, be it for fun, or profit:  http://www.agroforestry.net/tti/Cocos-coconut.pdf

Now as for eucalyptus… how wet do they like their 'feet' Hamster?  Care to enlighten us?

@Finrudd: 'Herb' makes me too mellow for fisticuffs, and I'm sure Hamster's momma is a sweet lady.  It's not her fault they switched babies on her at the hospital! 





Edited by Gringo.Floripa - 13 July 2012 at 08:12

Originally posted by spongebob eucalyptus is interesting due to the myth that they drink more water. If you search on it, you'll see the table where it shows what drinks the most water.. I think it's abacaxi.

Whatever is discovered, in this somewhat academic if not crushingly boring thread, will be certain to unearth that whichever species of flora or fauna drinks the most water it will definitely not be an Irishman.

Originally posted by spongebob Originally posted by Amsterdam   Have you ever owned a farm here or a sitio Sponge?... All these make money easy schemes are never as easy or as cost effective as people make out.... No. This will be the next thing that I buy, for sure. I know what I want. Nothing is "easy" or if it's easy here in Brazil, there will be all kinds of people that will "hold your foot", or competition will open.  It's better if things are hard. I used to have a signature for a long time that said "If it's easy, everyone would do it." <- I love that so much because it's so true. And dealing with these bush wakers isnt always easy either especially when your a gringo..... I know. At least where I am, it's not bushwackers, but gente da roça. You haven't seen me posting here because I have been working as a pedreiro. I started doing it years back to make sure they didn't cut corners or jerry-rig anything. Now since I'm supervising, I just do the work myself too. A new "helper" was there yesterday. He was talking about the place. I was there wearing dirty paint-stained clothes. When I told him that I owned the place, he was totally shocked, started talking loudly, etc... Too bad I didn't have my phone recording his expression. Quite funny.   If any of you guys have money to buy land, just plant pasture and put Cattle on in to graze. I know some very wealthy people some of whom have afew thousand head of cattle. ...that farm now is worth a fortune, it was huge and had a lake where the fish alone produced a good income.   There's other stuff too... but I DID see a fazenda in Mato Grosso with several thousand heads of cattle that had a private landing strip  Sometimes I think that Brazilians just post this kind of thing on the internet to see what it's worth because they aren't going to sell it.   Back to my comment that you quoted, REAL ESTATE is the best. With one of my endeavours, I rent a house from a guy that has RE all over this city. What I pay him in rent for one year is more than he paid for the house when he bought it. Sucks for me, but great for him. @Gringo.Floripa - eucalyptus in this region is used for carvão, and not so much construction. It's still used for construction, but carvão more. I'm looking at eucalyptus to cut someone out of the supply chain to get my costs down.