Originally posted by spongebob Originally posted by cara0910 Originally posted by spongebob Originally posted by cara0910 The US is certainly racist. But, Brazil is even more closed to outsiders/foreigners. GO to Silicon Valley, all American universities, etc. and find out for yourself. That's a big generalisation for ya! It's always talking about a problem that keeps it "a problem". The US has a black president so you can't say that everyone there is a racist. There xenaphobia everywhere. That's why we have "borders". <period outside of quotes because I like it that way>. People are people, and that's just life. People are people? Wow, bob, what a profound statement. The point is that Brazil is more xenophobic and closed of than the US as a whole. It's that simple. You seem to paint a lot of things with a brush so broad that all distinctions are lost. Go to LA, SF, NYC, Chicago, DC, etc. and look at the diversity of people working in companies, in positions of power, in government. There are many foreign-born individuals who succeed in the US. You cannot find that in Brazil, period. All the foreigners who have succeeded in Brazil came a significant time ago and have become "Brazilian natives." They are third or fourth generation. They own restaurants. There are very few recent immigrants who are successful in moving up through Brazilian society, becoming professionals, working in local government, etc. because Brazil is a xenophobic country. All countries have borders, bob. That's part of what defines the modern nation-state. Yet, not all countries are the same. Brazil happens to be very closed to outsiders. Not like, say, the US or an even better example, the UAE. And so what? I don't really care that I can't be a diplomat. If I wanted to be a diplomat, I could just ask for US Citizenship back and then apply for the Foreign Service. Whoops... nevermind, that doesn't pay enough money.I HAVE been to many places you are talking about, and YES, I have worked at several Fortune 500 companies. Something you fail to remember is that there is something called AFFIRMATIVE ACTION in America. Stop complaining by saying that Brazil isn't open to foreigners. It *IS*. Things just didn't work out for you, coitadinho. For it to "work" for you, you have to do the right things. Business is tough everywhere you go, be it the US, Europe, or Brazil. Reality check: just because someone opens a restaurant doesn't mean that they are profitable.There are actually several foreigners in this podunk town that have shops and restaurants. Some of them have closed after a year or two, and a couple are still open. Like I said, you really can't say that Brazil is xenaphobic when you threw in the towel. I'm glad I'm not in the trenches with you

Bob, you are the stereotypical American in the way you view basically everything. You just happen to be an American who is fed up with things back home. Look how you referenced "the trenches"! Hehehe.

I didn't throw in the towel in Brazil. I moved to a much, much nicer place with many more opportunities, like-minded people, more diversity, less crime...the list goes on.

That is irrelevant to the discussion. I'm super happy with my life and I'm glad I went to Brazil to realize how GREAT the place I am from really is.

You may want to read some of the other posts on this page about why Brazil is xenophobic. I have said similar things. It's not diverse, people are not accustomed to foreigners that aren't sex tourists!

Originally posted by spongebob Typical American. Haah! I have never been a typical American. I didn't like it there, so I left, twice. I'm on here talking about how I hate being American and  how I think a US passport is a piece of s***t. <sigh>.You of all people should understand why I am using American expressions with you... BTW - my home is not in the USofA; it's in Brazil. If you think I should be more "cheerful" about the US, then get them to change their laws.

Your views are very, very American! I can see it every one of your posts.

Let me guess, are you from the South? I'm being serious. I can bet you are not from SF/NY/Boston/Seattle...

Originally posted by Triste Brazil is a biased and racist country, and it's written in Constitution of Brazil. You need know that there are two types of citizens, two types of Brazilians - "native" (those was born in Brazil) and "naturalized" - that were Brazilians who received citizenship in Brazil. Then these citizens - "naturalized" are "fifth category" because they have not the same rights as native Brazilians. In the "Constitução" ist written that the "naturalized" Brazilian citizens have no right to be diplomats (are not accepted to study at the "Instituto Rio Branco"), can not be military or police, etc So, Brazil have the "first-class citizens" - those who were born "second category citizens" - those who were born in ojther countries and have Brazilian Pass. "Second Class Sitizens" have the same duties but do not have the same rights ... So, Brazil is a racist country - if only because of place of birth one citizen have prohibit certain rights and options in life. I have known one girl who lived in Brazil since 5 years old, she is a naturalized Brazilian, graduated with a Brazilian Universitate with distinction (she was the best!) and her dream was to be a diplomat (she is fluent in six languages​​). Her documents was not accepted in Rio Branco! This is prejudice and racism! The girl lives life in Brazil since 5 years old, has a Brazilian passport and is considered her brasilian!! But she is the is only "second category citizens" because of place of birth!

To Amsterdam
I will response to you in private message. The time of live here reflects something?

I have god job wiht good payment here. But my dream is go out of here to another place, perhaps with less money but with more culture and happiness.
But unfortunately in my country nobody expects me more ... and here I have at least one job and some friends (almost all are foreigners). I can not make Brazilian friends, because they are FALSE and I think that falsehood is worse human quality.

Originally posted by spongebob Triste, Expat2233-Kurtz-Cara90210 attacks people over English grammar mistakes. I have lived in Brazil for many years. Despite this, I still write "American" expressions so that he will understand me better.But your're English is hard to read. Why not put your thoughts into Google Translator and then put here???? Or even right in French. If your mother language is a common language, references are easy to find.

I have only mentioned grammar/spelling/usage to GD because he calls me names. I am not into calling people names, and it's against the forum rules. So, I point out that he seems to have a low level of education, and that is reflected in his childish attacks and his writing.

GD bashes people all over this forum. All I do is express my opinions about BRAZIL not other people.

I have shown great resistance to all of the personal attacks against me and tried to keep the focus on the ideas at hand.

Edited by cara0910 - 24 April 2012 at 23:13