Hi everybody.I am European gringo living in UK.
This story is complicated,be patient please and read everything.
  One day some  Brasilian girl ,now aged 35( comes from southern Brasil,not poor family as i know some young girls coming from Northern places)made a friend request at one of most popular internet sites.We have started to chat,have a laugh...
She is married to another European guy but does not love him anymore and just live in same house not sharing the bed.
 The day when we met in real word has come.It was very nice date,we spent some time with her friends and then night only together.
   I have to say that before we met we had kind of sex online with web cams.
Now you can get a small image of where i am coming from.Let's continue.
I have to say at the beginning of our relationship it was more about spending time together,great bed time.
I liked it so much because she was sexy,feminine,different that European woman.She even did boobs job because of felling bad about small breast( it was not a problem for me but it was her decision).
  After sometime i have noticed our feelings were becoming stronger and we( i assume it was both of us) fell in love.I have asked her to move on and move out from house she was sharing with bad  people and her husband.She had some problem with alcohol.
 Lter on i managed to stop her drinking so often and amounts she would get drunk and irresponsible.She did it probably because of my advices to have peace of mind.
   We were spending more time together.
I live in different city than she does so we were meeting every week for 2,3 days.
   Problems have started just earlier when i still was using some dating websites,talking to women.
   One day we have had an argument because she has checked browsing history from my pc.She said  that is like cheating,she was mad.
  I had an account but when i was getting serious with her i stopped to use it but just forgot to close it.We are all busy with our lives so sometimes forget do small things which do not matter.
I am not making any excuses now.
   I deleted profiles and we were over it( as i thought we were).
One day she saw some dating website advertisement banner so she thought i am still using some datin sites.
She almost wanted to setup an account there to spy me.
She was obsessive .
I knew Latin women are different  and i tried to understand her.
 Her jealousy was sometimes so strong that was making me very sad and angry because instead wasting energy on things we like we wasted on arguing.She was mentioning about my ex gf-ds as bad ones.
When she saw some
She was asking me about who is new friend( woman) or what was this comment below the picture about
One day i told her i helped some friend ( woman) to buy a  car because of my better knowledge.Later on on the front of some people she was making some comments( i think to make me feel guilty of contact with my friend).
   We had many conversations about that.She always was saying that she is not so jealous as i am seeing it.
   We spent summer holidays together.As were getting serious we agreed to live together and me to move to her city.She was reminding me about it every month so i felt a bit of pressure.
I am a man of rules so always keep promises.
I found a job in her city and made decision to move on with my life.Because of not good relations at hat time i decided to live separate and see what will happen.Unfortunately i lost job very quickly and move back to my old city where chances to get job are much higher.Some friends have helped me with accommodation.
  Because of her jealousy and problems i did not let her know that i have moved out.
One day she has called me 25 times and send about 15 messages.I have not answered any of her calls.
I have promised to let it go because of pain i was going through.
  Going back in time one day she admitted to be pregnant and what we will do.She said that has got appointment with doctor.Wen i asked to give me exact date and time of it few days before she changed date of appointment and went to doctor earlier.
I could not check if she was really pregnant.
My friends were saying that she plays with me all the time.I said that i do not want to have baby now because we do not even share a home together,we do not know each other so much.
We had sex one time and she said because of being pregnant already i  don't have to use condoms anymore and i can " finish" inside her.
My thought were clear.She wanted to get pregnant with me.
We agreed to take this unborn child.She said that she took some illegal tablet and she is not pregnant anymore.
We thought about contraception because she said that she had allergy for condoms( we had some intercourses with condoms and she was not complaining or having any symptoms of any allergy).
  I know she has big sexual drive as some women do want satisfaction everyday.
One day she suggested to go to  swingers club and have sex with somebody else.I have refused it few times.

   Few days becore we have split up we had a sex and i was scared to make love without condoms.She was not happy and she left.Se exchanged few messages and she wrote" if you do not want to have sex without condom i will find some d... to ride on" or " she knows some guy who fancies her so much"
 
I know that Latin women are jealous especially Brasilian women.
I know nobody is perfect( including myself).I try to be objective and positive.
I know myself in matter of planning things,trying to think logically.
  My conclusion after whole relationship is i felt to be manipulated and controlled.
  I know all women have ways to check  if you love them( jealousy and pregnancy things).I decided to break with her because her irresponsible and unhealthy life.Telling me things she will do but she never did.Making up some stories about being pregnant
Now ladies and gents i have many questions.
First q....Was i right to  break with her for those jealousy and irresponsible life?
Was i right to expect progress in our relationship in terms of contraception,getting divorced from ex husband,managing her finances better.
  Is it normal for Brazilian women to be so jealous,so possessive,controlling partners normal privacy where is no need because of trust?
   Was i right to be suspicious when she said that she had few  "boyfriends" and never invited them home?Were those guys just lovers to give her sexual satisfaction?
Was her goal to have more sexual relationship and no commitment ,just to live from one day to another without bigger plans because she still had better life here in UK than Brazil i suppose?
  Does person love you when suggesting to go to swingers club( i understand after 20 years of marriage and being bored with sex)?
   Some Brasilian guy said that 90% of Brasilian women are very jealous.Other Brasilian woman said that she did not love me that much as i thought.
 I like Latin culture and latin looking women.I even want to learn salsa,samba.
I miss her so much and after 4 months of separation thinking of talking to her.
She gave me something what my other ex gf-ds did not give me at all.She was much more supportive,backing me,pleasing me.
My friends say that i should forget her and my heart says to give a chance as i still love her.
On other hand i do not want to be just a lover and split up because of her jealousy.
  When we split up she wanted to bring my attention playing with me to get involved with things she will do( still i am not convinced if she did any of those).
I think she would change her behavior and prove that she really wants future life with me.
   Even in last messages she was mentioning that will go for some treatment because of her mental problems.
I can not check if this is true because of no contact with her.
   Do you think i am stubborn person?Should i trust her " i love you" when suggesting to go to " swingers club"?
Should i get in touch and try to talk knowing that she stuck with her life at same point?I know that when i will speak to her it will open mind for same problems like jealousy.....
What are your thoughts about that?Please i need real advises coming from experience.

 

 


 






Edited by gringo35 - 11 March 2012 at 20:10

Sounds like you found yourself a little freak with baggage.

You already knwo the answer. And it isn't yes.

Originally posted by cobrakhan5 You already knwo the answer. And it isn't yes.

Originally posted by gringo35 Hi everybody.I am European gringo living in UK.This story is complicated,be patient please and read everything.  One day some  Brasilian girl ,now aged 35( comes from southern Brasil,not poor family as i know some young girls coming from Northern places)made a friend request at one of most popular internet sites.We have started to chat,have a laugh...She is married to another European guy but does not love him anymore and just live in same house not sharing the bed. The day when we met in real word has come.It was very nice date,we spent some time with her friends and then night only together.   I have to say that before we met we had kind of sex online with web cams.Now you can get a small image of where i am coming from.Let's continue.I have to say at the beginning of our relationship it was more about spending time together,great bed time.I liked it so much because she was sexy,feminine,different that European woman.She even did boobs job because of felling bad about small breast( it was not a problem for me but it was her decision).  After sometime i have noticed our feelings were becoming stronger and we( i assume it was both of us) fell in love.I have asked her to move on and move out from house she was sharing with bad  people and her husband.She had some problem with alcohol. Lter on i managed to stop her drinking so often and amounts she would get drunk and irresponsible.She did it probably because of my advices to have peace of mind.   We were spending more time together.I live in different city than she does so we were meeting every week for 2,3 days.   Problems have started just earlier when i still was using some dating websites,talking to women.   One day we have had an argument because she has checked browsing history from my pc.She said  that is like cheating,she was mad.  I had an account but when i was getting serious with her i stopped to use it but just forgot to close it.We are all busy with our lives so sometimes forget do small things which do not matter.I am not making any excuses now.   I deleted profiles and we were over it( as i thought we were).One day she saw some dating website advertisement banner so she thought i am still using some datin sites.She almost wanted to setup an account there to spy me.She was obsessive .I knew Latin women are different  and i tried to understand her. Her jealousy was sometimes so strong that was making me very sad and angry because instead wasting energy on things we like we wasted on arguing.She was mentioning about my ex gf-ds as bad ones.When she saw some She was asking me about who is new friend( woman) or what was this comment below the picture aboutOne day i told her i helped some friend ( woman) to buy a  car because of my better knowledge.Later on on the front of some people she was making some comments( i think to make me feel guilty of contact with my friend).   We had many conversations about that.She always was saying that she is not so jealous as i am seeing it.   We spent summer holidays together.As were getting serious we agreed to live together and me to move to her city.She was reminding me about it every month so i felt a bit of pressure.I am a man of rules so always keep promises.I found a job in her city and made decision to move on with my life.Because of not good relations at hat time i decided to live separate and see what will happen.Unfortunately i lost job very quickly and move back to my old city where chances to get job are much higher.Some friends have helped me with accommodation.  Because of her jealousy and problems i did not let her know that i have moved out.One day she has called me 25 times and send about 15 messages.I have not answered any of her calls.I have promised to let it go because of pain i was going through.  Going back in time one day she admitted to be pregnant and what we will do.She said that has got appointment with doctor.Wen i asked to give me exact date and time of it few days before she changed date of appointment and went to doctor earlier.I could not check if she was really pregnant.My friends were saying that she plays with me all the time.I said that i do not want to have baby now because we do not even share a home together,we do not know each other so much.We had sex one time and she said because of being pregnant already i  don't have to use condoms anymore and i can " finish" inside her.My thought were clear.She wanted to get pregnant with me.We agreed to take this unborn child.She said that she took some illegal tablet and she is not pregnant anymore.We thought about contraception because she said that she had allergy for condoms( we had some intercourses with condoms and she was not complaining or having any symptoms of any allergy).  I know she has big sexual drive as some women do want satisfaction everyday.One day she suggested to go to  swingers club and have sex with somebody else.I have refused it few times.   Few days becore we have split up we had a sex and i was scared to make love without condoms.She was not happy and she left.Se exchanged few messages and she wrote" if you do not want to have sex without condom i will find some d... to ride on" or " she knows some guy who fancies her so much"  I know that Latin women are jealous especially Brasilian women.I know nobody is perfect( including myself).I try to be objective and positive.I know myself in matter of planning things,trying to think logically.  My conclusion after whole relationship is i felt to be manipulated and controlled.  I know all women have ways to check  if you love them( jealousy and pregnancy things).I decided to break with her because her irresponsible and unhealthy life.Telling me things she will do but she never did.Making up some stories about being pregnantNow ladies and gents i have many questions.First q....Was i right to  break with her for those jealousy and irresponsible life?Was i right to expect progress in our relationship in terms of contraception,getting divorced from ex husband,managing her finances better.  Is it normal for Brazilian women to be so jealous,so possessive,controlling partners normal privacy where is no need because of trust?   Was i right to be suspicious when she said that she had few  "boyfriends" and never invited them home?Were those guys just lovers to give her sexual satisfaction?Was her goal to have more sexual relationship and no commitment ,just to live from one day to another without bigger plans because she still had better life here in UK than Brazil i suppose?  Does person love you when suggesting to go to swingers club( i understand after 20 years of marriage and being bored with sex)?   Some Brasilian guy said that 90% of Brasilian women are very jealous.Other Brasilian woman said that she did not love me that much as i thought. I like Latin culture and latin looking women.I even want to learn salsa,samba.I miss her so much and after 4 months of separation thinking of talking to her.She gave me something what my other ex gf-ds did not give me at all.She was much more supportive,backing me,pleasing me.My friends say that i should forget her and my heart says to give a chance as i still love her.On other hand i do not want to be just a lover and split up because of her jealousy.  When we split up she wanted to bring my attention playing with me to get involved with things she will do( still i am not convinced if she did any of those).I think she would change her behavior and prove that she really wants future life with me.   Even in last messages she was mentioning that will go for some treatment because of her mental problems.I can not check if this is true because of no contact with her.   Do you think i am stubborn person?Should i trust her " i love you" when suggesting to go to " swingers club"?Should i get in touch and try to talk knowing that she stuck with her life at same point?I know that when i will speak to her it will open mind for same problems like jealousy.....What are your thoughts about that?Please i need real advises coming from experience.

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