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3casas
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Posted: 16 February 2012 at 18:11

Originally posted by spongebob

I can tell you that the Brazilian government clearly views foreigners as foreigners, even though you dominate the language and have family here. .....
What do I have to do to be treated more like everyone else? Naturalise!

Compared to what life was like for a foreigner in Japan, I'm welcomed with open arms here. It may be better now, but it was just shocking at times when we were there. Here people treat me like a person, not some odd species of panda!
I will probably naturalize at some point, but there's no hurry.

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Posted: 16 February 2012 at 20:46

Originally posted by 3casas

Originally posted by spongebob

I can tell you that the Brazilian government clearly views foreigners as foreigners, even though you dominate the language and have family here.
.....What do I have to do to be treated more like everyone else? Naturalise!

Compared to what life was like for a foreigner in Japan, I'm welcomed with open arms here. It may be better now, but it was just shocking at times when we were there. Here people treat me like a person, not some odd species of panda!I will probably naturalize at some point, but there's no hurry.

Don't BE três. I only wish that things could have remained as they were. As we all know, things change and we have to adapt, unfortunately.

Still, "I have a doubt" :-) about the 5 years resetting clock. I didn't understand that?

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Posted: 17 February 2012 at 06:43

Originally posted by spongebob

Don't BE três....
Still, "I have a doubt" :-) about the 5 years resetting clock. I didn't understand that?

Don't be what? sorry, didn't catch.

you need police records, of CERASA, of forum records, etc for wherever you've lived in the last 5 years. if you have two municipalities, it's twice the paperwork.

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Posted: 17 February 2012 at 09:14

Originally posted by 3casas

Originally posted by spongebob

Don't BE três....Still, "I have a doubt" :-) about the 5 years resetting clock. I didn't understand that?

Don't be what? sorry, didn't catch.you need police records, of CERASA, of forum records, etc for wherever you've lived in the last 5 years. if you have two municipalities, it's twice the paperwork.

Cerasa is national. You only need SPC, Cartório de Distribuição de Titulos e Protestos and Cartorio de distribuição de ações civis, criminais e execuções fiscais for each of the comarcas you have been to.

Only Cartório de Distribuição de Titulos e Protestos costs money (some R$ 28). The ações civis, penais e execuções fiscais is in the same cartorio and takes 5 to 10 min.

It's not a big deal.

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Posted: 17 February 2012 at 14:51

(S)ERASA. I actually subscribe to SERASA. There is some cool stuff available from that.

About the paperwork, just pay a despachante. I paid R$ 120 for the required docs. from another city.

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Posted: 17 February 2012 at 19:34

Originally posted by sven

The ações civis, penais e execuções fiscais is in the same cartorio and takes 5 to 10 min.

It's not a big deal.

In theory!!

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Posted: 18 February 2012 at 06:23

Originally posted by 3casas

Originally posted by sven

The ações civis, penais e execuções fiscais is in the same cartorio and takes 5 to 10 min.

It's not a big deal.

In theory!!

And practice.

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Posted: 18 February 2012 at 07:50

3casas, when you look at the paperwork requirement, it's scary. But it's not really that hard. I think I just have to visit a cartório here, and then get a rental contract from another city, and then I'm going to turn in my paperwork to the PF (hopefully). I haven't kept track of the actual COST associated with this, but it's not high, around R$ 300 if you include transportation costs of going to the other cities.

Brazil doesn't typically boot out people with Brazilian dependents, but I want to eliminate any chance of having any problems in the future. And in my case, the US seems very unstable. You never know what kind of crazy law they are going to pass next.

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Posted: 18 February 2012 at 11:59

Originally posted by spongebob

3casas, when you look at the paperwork requirement, it's scary. But it's not really that hard. I think I just have to visit a cartório here, and then get a rental contract from another city, and then I'm going to turn in my paperwork to the PF (hopefully). I haven't kept track of the actual COST associated with this, but it's not high, around R$ 300 if you include transportation costs of going to the other cities.

Brazil doesn't typically boot out people with Brazilian dependents, but I want to eliminate any chance of having any problems in the future. And in my case, the US seems very unstable. You never know what kind of crazy law they are going to pass next.

Craziness abounds on our little blue planet and I prefer to think that this craziness exists and proliferates especially in densely populated and multicultural pockets of society. Personally I find it fascinating that one would condemn the US as a whole and, in preference, chose to live in Brazil. Perhaps there are degrees of craziness whose qualities best suit the individual? Citing laws or imagined future laws that impinge little on daily lives fades in comparison to the relative lawlessness and dysfunctional systems of Brazil.

We all have our reasons why we live in Brazil yet in doing so we sacrifice no small degree of quality in our daily lives. The balance, or best described as a trick, if there is one, is to find a tolerable little bubble wherein one can avoid the futility of attempting to change a crazy world.

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Posted: 24 February 2012 at 09:52

Originally posted by WENGER

Originally posted by spongebob

My last name is long and very foreign sounding, and even English speakers screw it up all the time. My wife didn't even take my last name when we got married due to the hassle it would involve by getting new documents and the like.

So my question is, who changed their name when they naturalised in Brazil? Did changing your name inconvenience you in any way?

I think I'll change my name to James Bond Silva.

I want to change my name too to have 4 names like a real brazilian.I have already chosen my name: Robert Cachorro Safado Sem Vergonha

kkkkkkk.

Huh looks like I am stuck here too. And changing the name would be good. I am tired of people thinking, "Jack, o Estripador".

But then I like my name - Because you see, F em - I CAME to Brasil and chose to live here. I LEFT Australia, which has 4 of its cities listed in the top 10 MOST LIVABLE CITIES in the World.
I come to Brasil out of CHARITY of heart, out of EMPATHY to help the poor heathens they are all.

“He who has a WHY to live can bear almost any HOW.” Friedrich Nietzsche

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