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Gringodude
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Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:14

Stop being defensive, take a deep breath and read what I wrote. Or did you forget it usually takes you and others several times to do that? Anyway, I said the average gringo, the one who's frustrated, the one who usually see as all the little inefficiencies throughout the day. This type of person only intakes a portion of what actually goes on, yet they have opinions that last a lifetime. You're suppose to be in Brazil for enjoying yourself, likewise, expecting change to happen instantaneously is insanity. You of 10 plus years should know that better than others.

I know you were probably just trying to slip it out there, but you need to relax and just stay in Bahia!

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toolio
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Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:23

Originally posted by Gringodude

Stop being defensive, take a deep breath and read what I wrote. Or did you forget it usually takes you and others several times to do that?

If that's the case--and it is--do you think the fault that we don't understand what you write lies with us or with you? Maybe I won't win any prizes for being the hundredth person to say this in the past week, but it isn't always easy to figure out what you're getting at.

I don't need to be right; I just don't want to be wrong.

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Gringodude
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Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:26

Are you saying that about this particular situation or are just pulling that generalization from your butt to distract from our topic?

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tamte
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Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:30

Originally posted by Gringodude

However, I agree that examples taken in RIO/SP should be subject to spread outward. Just careful what you wish for because as Brazil changes so will life as we know it. Maybe all those rules will hinder your good life here! That's why I am also kind of grateful to enjoy it while it lasts because honestly I do see progress, slowly, yet it's there.!

If the life for law avoiding people gets worse, I don't mind. Brazil is a great get away place for many criminals who have money (or don't)...

It is also a great place for law obeying people but you need to be careful. If you get in the middle od armed robbery don't try to act like a hero... Even if you have military background and you'd like to help, stay away if you can. There's no real punishment to kill somebody in armed conflict, it is like an accident or smthng..

One of my wifes sisters husband is a PM sargeant: nobody wants to have a ride with that guys car as he is a moving target, rumors tell that you get R$5000 if you kill him. That's may be std amount to kill any police here?

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toolio
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Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:35

Originally posted by Gringodude

Are you saying that about this particular situation or are just pulling that generalization from your butt to distract from our topic?

Actually, both. Although the idea of you having anything to do with my butt kind of worries me. Smile

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GreatBallsoFire
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Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:36

Originally posted by toolio

Yeah, and all kinds of murderers will avoid jail as well. But does that mean that murder is fine?

I'm saying police should do what most of us think they should do. That doesn't mean I believe it will happen. But without some desire for change, change will never happen. And even in Brasil things can happen, albeit usually slowly. I refuse to take the "nothing will ever change" attitude regarding this, particularly since I'm living in the midst of this crap at the moment. I'm not the only one. Check out the #grevepmba twitter feed.

Gotta have some hope Smile

If things can get better in Rio and SP, they can get better in Salvador.

Positive change is happening in Brazil. In Bahia smoking is now banned in the bars and most restaurants. This is a huge change for the good.

Next step is to require dog owners to pick up the pet's poop. This is coming as residents of the towers are tired of having to navigate the "cocodromo" on the sidewalk in front of the buildings...

Once tho poop trouble is resolved politicians can get to work on more important issues..

Simia quam similis, turpissimus bestia nobis. Oi amigo, pode trazer a saideira?

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Gringodude
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Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:38

D.A... (not district attorney)

You can whine all you want about Brazil. It won't change anything.
This was my point

(Not calling you a whiner or whatever, it's a generic remark)
Now go back, try to aline everything and see what I meant!

Ok!

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toolio
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Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:42

Originally posted by Gringodude

You can whine all you want about Brazil. It won't change anything.
This was my point

How did you grow into such an old fart at such a young age? Have faith, grasshopper.

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Gringodude
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Posted: 09 February 2012 at 14:01

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit,

... But it's addicting!

Schools out for SUMMER, then it's back to studying and being smart, and checking my grammar! haha

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