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Quote GreatBallsoFire Replybullet Topic: 137 Homicides in Salvador over last 10 days.
    Posted: 09 February 2012 at 00:36
Death squads killed five street people in Imbui. Petty theives are also being targeted. More deaths than most civil wars in a very short time. Hopefully the PM strike will be stopped soon.  Fifa might back down and go to....Chicago?(If PMs in seven other states including Rio jump in on the strike in the next few days.)
Privates earn over 2100 reais a month and sargents earn over 2400. They want alot more...They want the Federal Gov to pay the wages and double or more the salaries. I think the striking PMs should be jailed.
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SSP registra 137 mortes em Salvador e RMS durante greve

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Desde o início da greve parcial da PM, há 10 dias, o número de homicídios em Salvador e Região Metropolitana (RMS) chegou a 137, segundo informação da Secretaria de Segurança Pública da Bahia (SSP). Foram registrados, nesta quarta, 08, até às 22h, sete homicídios, o último em Itinga.

O dia mais violento foi na sexta, dia 3, quando 32 pessoas foram mortas. Na terça, 11 foram assassinados. Durante a paralisação da PM, a Polícia Civil prioriza as investigações de 38 homicídios que apresentam indícios de extermínio como as mortes de cinco moradores de rua, no Imbuí, e o assassinato de uma mulher, na Piedade.

Segundo a polícia, as mortes por extermínio são as principais responsáveis pela elevação do número de homicídios, nos últimos dias. Esses crimes são motivados pela ação de seguranças clandestinos, que matam autores de pequenos furtos e roubos em comércios e casas, além de rixas do tráfico.

Segundo a Superintendência de Telecomunicações das Polícias Civil e Militar (Stelecom), um homem, com identidade ignorada, foi encontrado morto em Jaguaripe, por volta das 8h. O corpo da vítima tinha perfurações à bala.

Madrugada - Na madrugada, uma jovem foi baleada na Av. Barros Reis, por volta das 3h. Iris Patrícia dos Santos, 19, deu entrada no HGE, mas não resistiu aos ferimentos e morreu.

Mais cedo, um homem com identidade ignorada foi assassinado no bairro da Ribeira. O corpo foi encontrado, por volta da 3 h, com perfurações a bala na Tv. Capitão Eugênio. A Stelecom registrou ainda sete assaltos a ônibus coletivo. O órgão registrou 36 carros roubados e 6 furtados no boletim das últimas 24 horas.

8 February 2012 Last updated at 04:41 ET

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Talks to end Brazil police strike in Bahia break down

Soldiers%20maintain%20blockade%20of%20state%20legislature%20in%20Salvador Some 3,000 troops and extra police are patrolling in Bahia to try to keep order

Talks to end a week-long police strike over pay in the Brazilian state of Bahia have ended without agreement.

Some 300 officers remain holed up in the state legislature in the capital, Salvador, with the building surrounded by soldiers and federal police.

The strike has led to a spike in crime, with more than 100 murders in Salvador.

The stoppage, ruled illegal by the courts, comes just days before the city is set to welcome tens of thousands of tourists for carnival celebrations.

Bahia tourism officials insist that the partying will go ahead as scheduled.

But the Brazilian Association of Travel Agencies says some 10% of visitors have cancelled their trips.

Salvador, Brazil's third biggest city, is one of the venues for the football World Cup in 2014.

The Bahia government says about one third of the 30,000 state police officers are involved in the industrial action.

The officers, who say they are underpaid and facing rising crime, are seeking big pay rises. They are also calling for an amnesty for the walkout.

Police officers currently earn between $1,100 and $1,330 in Bahia.

Brazilian%20soldiers%20patrol%20the%20historic%20centre%20of%20Salvador Salvador is a popular tourist destination

Bahia Governor Jacques Wagner says he has a limited budget but pay rises could be phased in over three years.

He has insisted that striking officers who commit crimes will be punished.

"The right to protest is guaranteed but not the right to offend, to prey on, or to threaten people," Mr Wagner told Brazilian television.

Some officers have been arrested for allegedly organising roving gangs and robbing police cars, the Associated Press reported.

However, violence has dropped since some 3,000 soldiers and federal police were sent to patrol the streets at the weekend.

Authorities in Rio de Janeiro are also braced for a possible strike by police officers, firefighters and prison guards starting on Friday.

They all complain of low pay and poor working conditions.

Rio's government has offered a 39% rise over two years, which is due to be voted on by state lawmakers on Thursday.

Rio's Carnival celebrations officially get under way on 18 February.



Edited by GreatBallsoFire - 09 February 2012 at 01:25
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Quote Gringodude Replybullet Posted: 09 February 2012 at 01:01
Why should they be jailed?

With all the B.S that goes on everywhere in Brazil, I'm sure we could pay the police a little more!

Don't you?
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Quote Twirly Replybullet Posted: 09 February 2012 at 06:23
Originally posted by GreatBallsoFire

I think the striking PMs should be jailed.

I think you should stop making a new topic every time some Bahia looser gets killed during this strike.

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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 09 February 2012 at 06:46

Originally posted by Gringodude

Why should they be jailed?

Here's one good reason why some should be, and are now, jailed. From news reports this morning.

"O líder da greve de policiais militares na Bahia foi um dos últimos a
sair; decisão de abandonar prédio ocorre após Prisco ter sido flagrado
tratando de ações de intimidação como queima de viaturas e fechamento de
rodovias."

Another report

"Prisco foi flagrado por escutas telefônicas incentivando atos de vandalismo no Estado. As gravações foram divulgadas pelo "Jornal Nacional", da TV Globo. Em uma das escutas um interlocutor de Prisco identificado como David Salomão diz que vai "queimar viatura" e "duas carretas" na rodovia Rio-Bahia."

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Quote expt2233 Replybullet Posted: 09 February 2012 at 09:35
Originally posted by toolio


Originally posted by Gringodude

Why should they be jailed?

Here's one good reason why some should be, and are now, jailed. From news reports this morning.

"O líder da greve de policiais militares na Bahia foi um dos últimos a
sair; decisão de abandonar prédio ocorre após Prisco ter sido flagrado
tratando de ações de intimidação como queima de viaturas e fechamento de
rodovias."

Another report

"Prisco foi flagrado por escutas telefônicas incentivando atos de vandalismo no Estado. As gravações foram divulgadas pelo "Jornal Nacional", da TV Globo. Em uma das escutas um interlocutor de Prisco identificado como David Salomão diz que vai "queimar viatura" e "duas carretas" na rodovia Rio-Bahia."


Excuse me, but isn't that what police officers DO in Brazil?

Since when do the police enforce the law??

I just don't see your point on this one.
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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 09 February 2012 at 09:48
Originally posted by expt2233

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Excuse me, but isn't that what police officers DO in Brazil?

Since when do the police enforce the law??

I just don't see your point on this one.


That may be what they do, but I think most of us would agree that perhaps this isn't what they should be doing. I can't speak for you, but I would rather have police who offer me a modicum of protection instead of making my life difficult.

Sending this asshole to jail signals a rare glimpse of good sense. Not sending him to jail means the police will believe they have the power to continue this nonsense with impunity, whenever they feel so inclined.

The murder rate in Salvador was absurd before the police strike, and of course is worse now. When it comes to crime this city is in state of decline and self-denial. At least cities such as Rio and SP have made some progress in the past decade or so. When I arrived in Salvador people warned me not to go to SP because it was too dangerous. Now people in SP warn against visiting Salvador because it is too dangerous. The murder rate here in normal times is currently about six times that of the city of SP.




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Quote Gringodude Replybullet Posted: 09 February 2012 at 12:47
All kinds of officials become questioned and are forced to step down or go to jail, that won't stop others from committing crimes. Not instantly in any near future; wasn't drinking and driving just outlawed hehe!

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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 09 February 2012 at 12:55
Yeah, and all kinds of murderers will avoid jail as well. But does that mean that murder is fine?

I'm saying police should do what most of us think they should do. That doesn't mean I believe it will happen. But without some desire for change, change will never happen. And even in Brasil things can happen, albeit usually slowly. I refuse to take the "nothing will ever change" attitude regarding this, particularly since I'm living in the midst of this crap at the moment. I'm not the only one. Check out the #grevepmba twitter feed.

Gotta have some hope Smile If things can get better in Rio and SP, they can get better in Salvador.
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Quote Gringodude Replybullet Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:02
My whole point is your idea of 'most' and to be the average gringo who pontificates his opinion doesn't help! I mean it doesn't achieve much beyond your own frustration. However, I agree that examples taken in RIO/SP should be subject to spread outward. Just careful what you wish for because as Brazil changes so will life as we know it. Maybe all those rules will hinder your good life here! That's why I am also kind of grateful to enjoy it while it lasts because honestly I do see progress, slowly, yet it's there.!

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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 09 February 2012 at 13:09
Originally posted by Gringodude

... the average gringo who pontificates his opinion doesn't help!


I am not pontificating. You asked a question that I answered. You asked for opinions when you said "Why should they be jailed"

Now you ask people for their thoughts and castigate them when the offer their opinions? I swear you get stranger by the day.
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