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Quote Bubbles Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 11:07
Originally posted by TarkInBrazil

I don't need to work in order to live here because things are so cheap. 
 
..apart from electricals and/or any foreign goods, food, going out, cars and associated costs, and public transport.


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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 11:14
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..apart from electricals and/or any foreign goods, food, going out, cars and associated costs, and public transport.


Exactly. As long as you walk everywhere, don't intend to watch television, don't need a computer and intend to eat only oranges and bananas Brasil is a pretty inexpensive place. Oh, yes, and as long as you don't get headaches that require the purchase of aspirin or Advil that can be 10 times the cost in other countries. And don't even get me started on vitamins or ginkgo biloba. Smile
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Quote OldMiller Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 11:25
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don't intend to watch television
Based on the modern-day Brazilian TV I've seen, that isn't much of a sacrifice.
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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 11:30
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Based on the modern-day Brazilian TV I've seen, that isn't much of a sacrifice.


You mean you don't like Raul Gil?LOL I find it amazing that someone who looks as though he died and was embalmed a couple of decades ago can stand up for so many hours at a time.
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Quote TarkInBrazil Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 12:08
Originally posted by Esprit

Tark, are we talking about North or South Korea?


South.  I'm American, they don't let us into North Korea.

I understand though, that I kinda came in on the tail end of things there.  I understand things were a hoot during the Noh administration...
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Quote 3casas Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 13:20
Tark, this is sooooo different from Asia here.

Sven has a good point- you would be seen as exploited.  Things are not what we expect here (i say we as an american).  You aren't illegal, you're "irregular".  Nobody is deported.  The "migras" aren't going to come and haul anyone out.  After living in Asia for some years, it was hard for me to get used to as well.

I mean, if you don't want to work irregularly, then fine too.  Study, enjoy your time here.
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Quote spongebob Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 13:37
Tark, this is sooooo different from Asia here.

Sven has a good point- you would be seen as exploited.  Things are not what we expect here (i say we as an american).  You aren't illegal, you're "irregular".  Nobody is deported.  The "migras" aren't going to come and haul anyone out.  After living in Asia for some years, it was hard for me to get used to as well.

I mean, if you don't want to work irregularly, then fine too.  Study, enjoy your time here.



It's not so cut and dry. On my first visit to the PF, ever, there was a case on the now-retired PF's desk. I asked him about it because I glanced at one of the papers and it had a traditionally gringo name. He said it was a gringo on a tourist visa was caught giving classes in a school. He said the school was going to fined heavily and the gringo would be "deported." I don't know what the means, if they did it "American style" or just gave him a notice to leave the country...

Yes, and for the record, I almost forgot, I was actually there myself "to be deported". Someone got pi$$ed off at me and called the Federal Police.. but haha, I was safe. I got out of it, and I've been here ever since. To this day, I don't know who it was. Either it was someone in my apartment building or someone from a local buteca who just didn't like me.

So don't say it CAN'T happen because they came after me. He's just much safer by waiting until he gets his documents to starting. I don't think it's responsible to egg him on to work since there is some risk to it, maybe less than in Asia, but there is still risk.





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Quote sven Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 14:02
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I don't know what the means, if they did it "American style" or just gave him a notice to leave the country...


They give you a week or so to haul ass. If you don't, they'll pick you up and put you on a plane.

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So don't say it CAN'T happen because they came after me.


Of course it can, if someone tells on you.

If you where caught working, and they didn't pay what they would have an obligation to with Carteira Assinada, the labor suit would be a good base to ask for a Habeas Corpus preventivo, at least until you got your money
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Quote spongebob Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 16:45
Sven, I believe "American style" is throwing the person out that minute.
I wasn't the person caught working. But maybe someone who reads this can maybe save deportation if something similar happens.

In my case, someone was probably envious and reported me. That list if people was QUITE large, which included my wife's-- girlfriend at the time -- friends, half of which gave me the look that they wanted to jump my bones Shocked, people from the bars, people in the apartment building, and many more people. I never discussed the visa issue openly, but I bet someone just called How many envious people do you know? Nuff said!

This is why you guys can say to relax, but this really happened to me. I had totally forgotten about it until I started writing the second post on this thread, and I though "hey wait a minute.. this happened to me!"







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Quote IrishNatal Replybullet Posted: 23 January 2012 at 19:07
Originally posted by TarkInBrazil


Originally posted by Esprit

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South.  I'm American, they don't let us into North Korea....


well done N Korea. I must add it to my "must visit" list!
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