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Quote sven Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2012 at 16:34
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Sven, I was just kidding with you. About 11 years ago, I had a long talk with a Portuguese engineer whose job it was to filter human excremate from water. He said that they got the water "so" pure that they had to add minerals for human consumption.


I know that, but AFIK that't not how they filter it here.


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Sometimes I wonder if these people who bring the galãoes just fill them up with a hose tapped to the local water supply.



How do you know they don't fill the galões with tap water.
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Quote expt2233 Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2012 at 16:48
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@spongebob, are you kidding me? You drink bottled water? Hahahahaha!

Filters cost about R$15.
20 litres galão = R$ 6. We usually go through 2 of them a week at home.I don't think that's so expensive to justify the HAHAHAHAHA.Today, I couldn't find my sports bottle top (my kid had it last I saw), so I had to spend R$2 on two bottles of water when I was playing tennis.


It seems you do not care about throwing plastic into the ocean. Good for you.
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Quote expt2233 Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2012 at 16:49
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By the way, if they don't serve a social purpose, Brazil is free to create their own AIDS meds. Oh wait, they would never invest in such a thing...

So, FioCruz doesn't exist? It isn't the largest vaccine producer in Latin America, constantly looking for cheaper cures, preventative measures and cheaper/more accurate diagnostic tests for common diseases in Brazil (parasites, tb, leptosirosis, etc.)?In tropical medicine, you simply don't get much better.  They even have a level 4 research lab where they do studies with Haunta Virus.  USP, UFSCar and UENF also have leading research programs that have produced some pretty cool results.  UFF is near the front globally for "pain management" programs, getting applause even from the Maio Clinic.  UERJ, along with USP, is a leader in neuroscience and clinical psychology reserach.The biggest problem in Brazil is bureaucracy (it is hard to get curcial material for research through customs in a timely matter) and brain drain with people like Miguel Nicholelis getting drafted by universities like Duke to do their reserach there.It is steadily getting better though.
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It is not just big pharma. A lot of US public funds go into supporting the entire industry of medical research. The US has mastered the synergy of public/private research.
Glakso Smith Kline has partnered with FioCruz since 2009 to produce new, cheaper medicines and help distribute them on a wide scale in Brazil.  Tons of Americans have been in Rio over the last few years to help grow the partnership.Just because you don't here much about r&d outside of the petroleum and engineering industries, doesn't mean it's not there.
Just because something has an "American" brand to it like Glaxo Smith Kline, doesn't mean it's not Brazilian.Just because Brazilian industries haven't reached the same size as American ones, doesn't mean they aren't among the biggest or most advanced in the world.Finally, if Brazil occasionally gets around the hurdles of Big Pharma to help people by breaking IP regs, then so be it.  Bostonians gets around their ridiculous prices by illegally importing drugs from Canada. Did Massachusetts suddenly leave the US and become a third world country that doesn't invest in research?


1) two wrongs don't make a right. Besides, individual action does not equal state sponsorship. Importing drugs into the US from Canada is ILLEGAL and the gov't certainly tries to stop it.

2) Fio Cruz does exist. In fact, a relative of mine works there. But, how is that relevant to the issue at hand? Seems like you are most interested in talking about pride, the typical chip on your shoulder that's so omnipresent in Brazil...

Just because Brazil does SOME research it should be able to violate IP? No.

3) Who said the patents were held by the US? They are held by companies, universities, etc. It's that simple. Patents represent financial investment, not to mention intelligent management and human toiling. Trust me, I used to do bench work.

Any legit arguments to justify Brazil's blatant disregard for IP?
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Quote spongebob Replybullet Posted: 02 February 2012 at 17:29
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Originally posted by spongebob


Originally posted by expt2233

@spongebob, are you kidding me? You drink bottled water? Hahahahaha!

Filters cost about R$15.
20 litres galão = R$ 6. We usually go through 2 of them a week at home.I don't think that's so expensive to justify the HAHAHAHAHA.Today, I couldn't find my sports bottle top (my kid had it last I saw), so I had to spend R$2 on two bottles of water when I was playing tennis.


It seems you do not care about throwing plastic into the ocean. Good for you.


@expat666 - Why the attack mode? Just so you know the process, you call a guy to bring you water. He brings you new galões filled with water and TAKES AWAY the old galões to be re-used again. For the individual bottles I bought today, they will most likely be recycled.

@sven, I mentioned that here I wouldn't be surprised if they really did use tap water LOL. There's actually a distributor not far from where I live. I have seen large trucks of water coming into their "compound" and them taking the water from the truck and filling the galões. The owner claims that water is SUPER FISCALIZED here. He gave me a couple of examples when I saw him @ the buteco, but I was probably drinking caxaça at the time and I have since forgotten.



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Quote shanewilson Replybullet Posted: 05 June 2012 at 03:06
As most people are aware, real estate in the United States went into a pretty steep decline and home values are anemic, to say the least. There are at least 10,000 homes for sale for only $10,000 or close to it nationwide. Indeed, beware of its missing parts because though it's sold at a very low price there are still things that of course need to be fix or repairs.You may read further at: Homes for $10K available nationwide.

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Quote juliet Replybullet Posted: 07 June 2012 at 11:45
I am from Fortaleza and I live in Germany right now. but I want to go to Brazil and open a business in Fortaleza. I am looking for a business partner. Are you still interested?
Please contact me.I have the knowledge, and good idea
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Quote mmaser Replybullet Posted: 07 June 2012 at 23:21

Any legit arguments to justify Brazil's blatant disregard for IP? [/QUOTE]
 
When did the Brazilian government begin taking an interest in filing patents?  They didn't seem interested in 2005...
 
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Quote spongebob Replybullet Posted: 03 September 2012 at 11:28
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As most people are aware, real estate in the United States went into a pretty steep decline and home values are anemic, to say the least. There are at least 10,000 homes for sale for only $10,000 or close to it nationwide. Indeed, beware of its missing parts because though it's sold at a very low price there are still things that of course need to be fix or repairs.You may read further at: Homes for $10K available nationwide.



If I lived closer to the US, I would probably have already bought a couple of these cheap houses just to rent out.

Even here, when you go to look at a place to rent or to buy, it's usually got so many problems that you are going to spend money to fix it up.

This is a cultural thing to me: there are so many Brazilians that live in an apartment or rent commercial space that do nothing but put in gambiarras because they don't want to spend 1 centavo.

If the owner loves the property and keeps it in good shape, they are going to bend-you-over on the rent or on the sale price. Frustrating... that's why I try to do the *maximum* that I can possibly do myself. When something is difficult and I have to call someone, rest assured that I stay there to watch what they are doing.

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