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Quote Fortaleza-Newf Replybullet Posted: 08 November 2011 at 22:26
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Originally posted by MovingSoon

you don't use his bandwith...he is getting his HBO and such from his cable...NOT his internet.
it doesn't affect him at all
And how is he sending it from his slingbox to yours? Via internet. Slingbox requires high speed internet at both ends. He sends, you receive.


You are 100% correct Toolio, as I use an hdtv slingbox to watch tv down here. The internet I have in Canada is 250GB per month which was used up uploading Slingbox to here. Great tool but word to the wise have unlimited internet connection.
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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2011 at 06:42
when i had internet in the US, I paid one fee for unlimited service...not sure where you guys are talking about.
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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2011 at 06:49
Originally posted by MovingSoon

when i had internet in the US, I paid one fee for unlimited service...not sure where you guys are talking about.


First, we are talking about the wrong information you posted about how slingbox works.

And second, many North American Internet providers now impose monthly bandwidth limits. Some are generous, some are not. Slingbox and other media streaming makes it easy to exceed less-than-generous bandwidth limits and to incur extra charges. (My provider, for example, has an 80 gig per month limit, after that you pay $1.50 per gig to a max of $50 a month.)

I am happy to hear you had unlimited service while in the U.S. Many customers in the U.S. (and Canada) now do not. You might even find that your former provider has changed its policy for new customers. I certainly hope not.
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Quote Fortaleza-Newf Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2011 at 08:05
Originally posted by toolio

Originally posted by MovingSoon

when i had internet in the US, I paid one fee for unlimited service...not sure where you guys are talking about.


First, we are talking about the wrong information you posted about how slingbox works.

And second, many North American Internet providers now impose monthly bandwidth limits. Some are generous, some are not. Slingbox and other media streaming makes it easy to exceed less-than-generous bandwidth limits and to incur extra charges. (My provider, for example, has an 80 gig per month limit, after that you pay $1.50 per gig to a max of $50 a month.)

I am happy to hear you had unlimited service while in the U.S. Many customers in the U.S. (and Canada) now do not. You might even find that your former provider has changed its policy for new customers. I certainly hope not.
Very easy to use up too considering that most the upload/download speed for an HD Slingbox with max settings in the neighbourhood of 1.5 mbs.
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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2011 at 10:36
I'm not sure what you guys used in the US.
I used Comcast and had no limit to my internet service bandwidth. I had four computers (two wireless, two direct), two HD cable boxes for tv, two VOIP services, and one tv tunner in my main PC..and had NO trouble. When I checked on the slingbox as an alternative to use at my son's house in Orlando, also using Comcast, I found there would be no problem.

And thats exactly how the slingbox pro works. I could connect it to my son's system and watch any channels he has subscribed to by logging into the account through my computer in Brazil. With the pro, you can switch channels and watch different programming then he is watching at the same time. With the regular slingbox, I would have to watch what he was watching. It a pretty simple setup. In fact...I know two others in Rio that have done it exactly that way and have had no problems, and LOVE it. I went there and watched NFL one Sunday just to see for myself....
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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2011 at 10:44
Comcast now has a bandwidth limit. It is a big one, but it is there. It probably was not when you were a customer.

From the Comcast FAQs pages

"our policy places a data threshold of 250 GB per month"

As far as I know, that is the most generous limit of all North american providers that impose caps (not all do), but I could be wrong.
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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2011 at 10:47
A little more detail on the above.

How does Comcast define "excessive use"?

Comcast has set a data consumption threshold ("threshold") on monthly bandwidth consumption (including both upstream and downstream usage) by residential users of its high-speed Internet service ("XFINITY Internet"). Currently, that threshold allows a residential customer to send or receive up to 250 Gigabytes (GB) of data in a calendar month. This includes data in any form (including movies, photos, music, videos, e-mails, computer back-ups, or other types of files) that a customer uses his or her XFINITY Internet to send or receive over the public Internet, including data sent by one XFINITY Internet customer to another.

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http://customer.comcast.com/Pages/FAQViewer.aspx?Guid=ce29dfac-73d9-4cb4-b433-70abe3b295e6#excessive6

That said, I would be very happy if my Canadian provider gave me 250 gigs a month instead of the 80 I now receive (which is up from 60 two months ago). My Brasilian provider is unlimited, although it gives me far slower than the advertised 10mb speeds most of the time and does not work worth a damn much of the time (Oi). It is currently disconnecting every 20 minutes.






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Quote MovingSoon Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2011 at 14:47
And to add, direct from Comcast's own website-

250 GB/month is an extremely large amount of data, much more than a typical residential customer uses on a monthly basis. Currently, the median monthly data usage by our residential customers is approximately 2 - 3 GB. To put 250 GB of monthly usage in perspective, a customer would have to do any one of the following:

Send 50 million emails (at 0.05 KB/email)
Download 62,500 songs (at 4 MB/song)
Download 125 standard-definition movies (at 2 GB/movie)
Upload 25,000 hi-resolution digital photos (at 10 MB/photo)

It seem like 250gb is a TREMENDOUS - amount of use. I don't think that too many residential users would get a phone call from Comcast asking them to curtail their usage...

Edited by MovingSoon - 09 November 2011 at 14:48
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Quote toolio Replybullet Posted: 09 November 2011 at 14:56
I'm sure you're right, but that's not really my point. As I said earlier, the Comcast cap is generous. But caps for other providers are often not. This is more of a discussion for those using other providers for slingbox.

However, you might be surprised at how much bandwidth a few hours every evening of slingbox might use. And don't forget, your buddy in the U.S. will be using bandwidth for normal purposes. You won't be the only user of his connection. So if he's a download hog and you're also using his connection for slingbox, watch out.

Ask anyone with a lower limit--say 80 or 100--how easy it is to go over by watching Netflix and you'll get an idea.

Maybe Fortaleza-Newf can give us an idea how much of his North American bandwidth he would use in a month of slingbox to Brasil. I'm curious.




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Quote luigi_atlanta Replybullet Posted: 21 March 2012 at 22:54
Originally posted by MovingSoon

If you have a buddy in the US, get a Slingbox deluxe and hook it to their system...then you can watch everything they have on your computer when you log in!!!
With the deluxe, you can switch channels and watch different programs then what they might be watching in the US at the same time. AND...you get any paid channels, like HBO, Max, etc that they are already paying for......
I am in the US and I have Vulkano (similar to Slingbox but better quality) and I am looking for a Brazilian host to swap the Brazilian TV channels for US TV channels (Direct TV). I have a very high bandwidth so the quality would be excellent and I am looking for same in return.

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