I think it was Dom Pedro.

Just to remind everyone. There are 2 forms of naturalizaion. The constitucional form needs way less documents.

Quote from your previous educative post,

(Firstly, I found out I was eligible for this by going to the Policia Federal in Lapa and asking them about the timeframe. I have permanent residence through marriage to a Brazilian, so I was eligible to apply after one year of permanency being granted. I thought this would be the date it was published in the DOU but the Policia Federal told me it is from the date your details are entered into SINCRE, which for me was one month after publication.)

Thanks for your post, Appreciate your effort and timing to send us these vital informative. Really useful to me now, but my concern is the timeframe. when are you eligible for the process, In regards of my case it different from yours. I have permanent resident base on prole i got married later, it's about almost 2 years now living in Brasil. PR within a year,living together with my wife for 10 months, did i eligible?

Thanks, appreciate your comments.

First of all, congratulations on the DIY route!  If I'd been looking at a R$3500 fee, I might have done the same, but I was able to find someone to gather all of that for less than R$1000.

The police report from the US, must been authenticated by the consulate, and (unlike when you applied for residency) it also needs to be translated juramentado.  That report is valid for 90 days; everything else (obtained in Brasil) has a validity of 60 days.  So for future applicants, best to have that document already in hand, before you start gathering everything else.

I never did this FBI clearance/fingerprint thing everyone keeps mentioning, for my permanent residency, nor for my naturalization request.  The PF will do an extensive set of digital prints of your digits, so I don't understand why people think the FBI clearance/fingerprints are necessary.

Yet even if you have to obtain all the local certidões negativas all over again, you're still way ahead of the game!  Parabens!

EDIT: If you already have the police report from where you last resided in the US (Miami), AND the consulate authenticated it, then you shouldn't need to wait to apply.
Forget about the FBI thing.


 



Edited by Gringo.Floripa - 18 January 2012 at 15:50

Originally posted by maskotas I will try to just file the Miami police report (it arrived this afternoon) after I get it translated (it was stamped by the Miami consulate) and then post here if they required the FBI report or not. The two times I have filed papers, I put in both the Miami and the FBI reports on the theory killing them with extra documents will not get me on the Jornal Nacional. The FBI one was always based on the fingerprints the PF in Sao Paulo rolled that I mailed to the US afterwards.

AFIK, supplying extra documents, in this instance, does not earn one extra credit.  Maybe only where you are demonstrating means to support yourself.  There is no mention anywhere (that I've seen), in applying for residency, or naturalization, that one must consult with the FBI for "clearance".  The local rap sheet (or lack of) from where you last lived in the US is sufficient.

Originally posted by maskotas I have been fingerprinted so many times in Brazil that I feel like I have a rap sheet three miles long.

Know what you mean.  Yet for naturalization process, it will be done via a computer scan, no ink, so you won't feel so "dirty"... more like 007. 
I wouldn't be surprised if the PF run the digitally scanned prints they make through some sort of INTERPOL data base anyway, so again, why should the FBI be specifically involved?


Once you've submitted the application, you will then need to apply for some patience.  It took several months here for the PF to do the home visit, and after that, another two months passed before they bothered to call the references I provided (*on the application).  Maybe in locales where the PF have more staff, it will be faster.  The home visit and reference check will be done before your file is sent off to Brasilia to be "analyzed".

*Regarding the references I mentioned, when you go to apply, be sure to take the complete information (name, address, ph#) of two Brasilian citizens who you know well.  If you look at the examples of the application Molendinar provided (the blue and white pages), the section (supposedly) to only be filled out by the PF requests these references.  Yet they had me fill this section out as well, and I believe Molendinar stated similar.

If you're like me, you certainly know where your friends/references live, but might not know their actual physical address ( I mean truly, who bothers to remember a street name which is 4-5 words long?!).  Each person I asked permission to use as a reference also provided me with their RG (without me asking for it).  The form doesn't ask for this, but since I had it, went ahead and provided that info anyway.  Perhaps no extra credit involved, but maybe it helped the PF authenticate my references faster.  Who knows?

Originally posted by maskotas The most complicated immigration laws were Chile's. In 1992-93 at least, you had to visit three government different offices between 48 and 24 hours of your departure in order to fly out and not void your residency.

Should you want to make a trip outside of the country before the home interview has occurred, you should inform the PF of your plans.  It was just my luck that during a ten day trip back to the US, they called to schedule the home visit.  Once I contacted them after my return (they'd left several voice mail messages), I was scolded for not informing them I was going to be out of the country.  After I showed them my passport with the exit/entry stamps, which proved I'd only been gone for ten days, then they were cool.

Again, parabens on your application to become naturalized!

Originally posted by spongebob Gringo.Floripa, did you get the application forms before, or at the time you took all your docs. to the PF?

Bob, I received the application form when I had stopped by to ask some questions about the process.  I then returned a second time with more questions, and was provided with a template where I had to indicate my absences from the country (they want this in a specific format).  Additionally, there is another template for some sort of declaration (don't recall now what exactly), which I was provided the day I applied!

I mentioned this previously, and Molendinar said it took a little "coaching" on his part, but he was able to receive the app and ALL the templates in the same visit.  So keep that in mind.  Of course, it would be too simple to have a pre-packaged "kit" with everything you might need....