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Quote Ramon Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:10
Originally posted by jkennedy

Move to another country, and you should blend in.  You shouldn't drag your culture with you and force it upon others.  You should respect the culture, you should join it, or not move.   You shouldn't move into a newly minted city of immigrants from your home country so you can keep your culture.  If your sole point is to move to another country with your culture, you should stay where you are.   If your sole goal is to get a better life, make your home country a better place and keep your culture there. 
 
hello ?  i did just that .  i travel to brazil more of 13 years .  i know most all of brasil .  i speak good portuguese .  i am not american ging ho guy .  all i am stating is brasil is not what people think it is .... one must live there at least 1 solid year to make a call .  i own 3 flats in brasil , i will continue passing time there . jkennedy's anser just one more reason why people here are anti american . period .
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Quote Megabyte Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:13
Just a question: this is a rant topic, and yet it is in "Best of Brazil." Shouldn't it be in the "Vent your Frustrations" section?
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Quote Ramon Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:15
Originally posted by cara0910

Tthere is an overwhelming feeling that they don't want foreigners in Brazil. This is their 'big moment' and they look at foreigners with disdain. It's disguised by their superficial friendly culture, but it's definitely there.

This goes especially for anyone who has an American accent. We pay for international politics firsthand.

Maybe when I meet Brazilians in the US I'll be telling them they're here to 'exploit' our economy, to 'take' our women and all the other BS I heard for years in Rio.

And then I'll say, but we are friendly midwestern people! We drink and have fun and don't have political corruption! Any sort of minor problem, 'Get out of here Brazucca! Go back to the jungle!'

Only, I won't do that! I am what makes the US great, and Brazil a hole. Pro-immigrant, pro-diversity, friendly. That's why this is where everyone goes. It's not just economics.

The only expats in Brazil have a specific reason to be there (family or business) or are sex tourists. Maybe about 100 don't fit into those categories. Rio is chock-full of lowlifes and snobs.

There are millions of immigrants who make the US their happy home!
 
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Quote jkennedy Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:16
Hey, I'm not against you here, based on what you've said, you did the right things Ramon.

The only thing you might not have understood (and with good reason, because it's a building block of American culture, but you assumed wrongly was a necessity for society to survive as well) is the dynamics of trust, which you're used to being almost black or white and clearly didn't fully understand that verifying trust was 100% your responsibility and not your "friends". 
There is just so much to do in Brazil, and so little time to do it all! Planning my next Brazil Vacation and the countdown has started!
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Quote Megabyte Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:17
Originally posted by Ramon

Originally posted by jkennedy

Move to another country, and you should blend in.  You shouldn't drag your culture with you and force it upon others.  You should respect the culture, you should join it, or not move.   You shouldn't move into a newly minted city of immigrants from your home country so you can keep your culture.  If your sole point is to move to another country with your culture, you should stay where you are.   If your sole goal is to get a better life, make your home country a better place and keep your culture there. 


 

hello ?  i did just that .  i travel to brazil more of 13 years .  i know most all of brasil .  i speak good portuguese .  i am not american ging ho guy .  all i am stating is brasil is not what people think it is .... one must live there at least 1 solid year to make a call .  i own 3 flats in brasil , i will continue passing time there . jkennedy's anser just one more reason why people here are anti american . period .


I'm sorry, Ramon, but why do you still bother to come? You don't feel comfortable here, and you don't have friends or family here either (do correct me if I'm wrong.) I admit life here isn't easy, so there are many other places in Latin America where people might accept you. Buenos Aires, for instance, is a nice place to travel to, and it even has some gorgeous snow!

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Quote Ramon Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:22
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But it does mean that you need to try to understand the culture and accept it as is. Brazil isn't a second United States, unfortunately, and social dynamics are different.
 
 
MEGABYTE, DO YOU KNOW MIAMI ?  ARE YOU AWARE 90% IMMIGRANTS IN SO FLORIDA, WHICH MAKE UP 8 MILLION PEOPLE, VERY FEW ACCEPT AMERICAN CULTURE, VERY FEW SPEAK ENGLISH AND VERY FEW RESPECT AMERICA .  BRASILIANS HERE , MOST ARE JUST LIKE THE CUBANS , THE COLOMBIANS, ETC ..... THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR AMERICANS .  just other day, my GYM , LA Fitness , brasilian guy from recife , he living in POMPANO Beach 10 years , he speak good english .  I ask him why are you here in usa.... U know what he said?  " i am here beacue of Money, i have no other reason to be here .  but now the US sucks so i am going back recife soon . "
 
Now imagien i have this attitude in RIO ?
 
big double standard , brasilians can be rude , never speak english , and dont care to assimulate and fly their flags on their car rear vew mirrors and bumper sticker on the back, and as american , if do this in RIO i would be burned alive .
 
if U dont know MIAMI, then dont comment .
 
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Quote hpeak13 Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:29
Originally posted by Ramon

i am american .


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Quote Ramon Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:29
jkennedy ,
 
nobody trust nobody in brasil ,  not just brasil , most latina america .  fmaily steals for family ,  selling your own child is not abnormal .
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Quote Ramon Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:30
my days in brasil is numbered  .
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Quote Gringodude Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2012 at 14:33
It's not that they do not trust one another specifically. It is that circles of trust are much tighter and more confined. I'm looking forward to doing business all over this growing array of countries left behind! There is a sense of high risk = high reward throughout the land and that's kind of exciting!
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