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Quote Gringo.Floripa Replybullet Posted: 19 July 2012 at 21:03

Barak and Mitt are certainly not the best, merely the best 'product' that can be marketed to have the greatest appeal, be you 'left-handed', or right.
I might bark, but I don't bite.

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Quote Esprit Replybullet Posted: 19 July 2012 at 21:12

Again these ‘products’ will be leaving their respective trails of tempting peanuts and bananas to the voting booths. Stern%20Smile

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Quote Gringo.Floripa Replybullet Posted: 23 July 2012 at 08:24

Did any US gringos fill out this new tax form, labeled 8938, with their 2011 US tax return???  I just learned about it this weekend!  I filed for an extension, so fortunately can still submit it (my FBAR already mailed in before last month's deadline though).

http://www.greenbacktaxservices.com/blog/irs-foreign-asset-reporting-guidelines

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/article/0,,id=255986,00.html


FBAR, FACTA, Form 8938... pelo amor de Deus, ė DEMAIS!!!  Wacko

And then after all these frickin' hoops to jump through… I read this merda!  
Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least 21 TRILLION dollars  Angry

Esprit... are you one of them???  Wink

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Quote Esprit Replybullet Posted: 23 July 2012 at 11:39
Originally posted by Gringo.Floripa


Did any US gringos fill out this new tax form, labeled 8938, with their 2011 US tax return???  I just learned about it this weekend!  I filed for an extension, so fortunately can still submit it (my FBAR already mailed in before last month's deadline though).

http://www.greenbacktaxservices.com/blog/irs-foreign-asset-reporting-guidelines

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/article/0,,id=255986,00.html


FBAR, FACTA, Form 8938... pelo amor de Deus, ė DEMAIS!!!  Wacko

And then after all these frickin' hoops to jump through… I read this merda!  
Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least 21 TRILLION dollars  Angry

Esprit... are you one of them???  Wink

I recall from many years ago, during a visit to the harbour at Monaco, marvelling at the boats tied to the docks. Magnificent craft, many of them Italian built and displaying the owners toys on deck: sylphlike bikini-clad young women naively taking advantage of their short-lived assets along with the jet skis and speedboat affixed on their davits together with a BMW cabriolet and a light helicopter. Certainly it was an extravagant and somewhat vulgar display of wealth to flaunt and so I concluded that such lack of sophistication is the reserve of lottery winners and small-time white powder crooks.

Away from the shallow draft docks lay some much larger vessels at the deep water anchorage; vessels better described as ships rather than mere boats and requiring a captain and crew numbering fifty or so; multi-million gin palaces with their accompanying overheads feeding on big money, old money. I continued my stroll along the quayside doing my best to quench my coveting lust by emulating Topol and singing “If I were a rich man.” All things are relative and I calmed myself in the consolation that at least I was here too, in good health and breathing the same air.

GF I have already confessed that one of the reasons why I rest my bones in Brazil is because of a tax advantage, however if I had a trillion, or best part thereof, I think that I could find a better place than this potholed dungeon and its keepers.

Incidentally, do I detect a new air of political correctness regarding tax and its avoidance? I feel a groundswell from the chattering classes about paying “your fair share” and that if the rich paid their full taxes [whatever that means] then the world wouldn’t be in the current fix. Of course the people who say such things are too dumb to make any real money in the first instance or to recognise the folly of the spendthrift politicians who have not only spent all of their hard-earned taxes but have borrowed unsustainably on future tax revenues. I wouldn’t give a government that last drip from a shake at a urinal.

I am of the opinion that the trickle-down from hidden wealth is a separate and intrinsic part of the world economy providing manufacturing and employment. Is it not preferable to forego our envy or jealousies when we see exotic cars, boats, planes and homes together with their associated employment that is provided in no small part by the tax avoiders? Or is it preferable to see such costs going to bailout countries such as Greece and its profligate population or indeed corrupt politicians? After all, we are doing our best but we are not communists. Wink                

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Quote digiwench Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2012 at 01:12
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I recall from many years ago,
during a visit to the harbour at Monaco, marvelling at the boats tied to the
docks. Magnificent craft, many of them Italian built and displaying the owners
toys on deck: sylphlike bikini-clad young women naively taking advantage of
their short-lived assets along with the jet skis and speedboat affixed on their
davits together with a BMW cabriolet and a light helicopter. Certainly it was
an extravagant and somewhat vulgar display of wealth to flaunt and so I
concluded that such lack of sophistication is the reserve of lottery winners
and small-time white powder crooks.

Away from the shallow draft docks
lay some much larger vessels at the deep water anchorage; vessels better
described as ships rather than mere boats and requiring a captain and crew
numbering fifty or so; multi-million gin palaces with their accompanying overheads
feeding on big money, old money. I continued my stroll along the quayside doing
my best to quench my coveting lust by emulating Topol and singing “If I were a
rich man.”

All things are relative and I calmed myself in the consolation that
at least I was here too, in good health and breathing the same air.

GF I have already confessed that
one of the reasons why I rest my bones in Brazil is because of a tax advantage,
however if I had a trillion, or best part thereof, I think that I could find a
better place than this potholed dungeon and its keepers.

Incidentally, do I detect a new air
of political correctness regarding tax and its avoidance? I feel a groundswell
from the chattering classes about paying “your fair share” and that if the rich
paid their full taxes [whatever that means] then the world wouldn’t be in the
current fix. Of course the people who say such things are too dumb to make any
real money in the first instance or to recognise the folly of the spendthrift
politicians who have not only spent all of their hard-earned taxes but have borrowed
unsustainably on future tax revenues. I wouldn’t give a government that last
drip from a shake at a urinal.

I am of the opinion that the
trickle-down from hidden wealth is a separate and intrinsic part of the world
economy providing manufacturing and employment. Is it not preferable to forego
our envy or jealousies when we see exotic cars, boats, planes and homes
together with their associated employment that is provided in no small part by
the tax avoiders? Or is it preferable to see such costs going to bailout countries
such as Greece and its profligate population or indeed corrupt politicians?

After all, we are doing our best but we are not communists.


good post

Edited by digiwench - 27 July 2012 at 01:15
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Quote Esprit Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2012 at 17:07

Ex-chairman of the US Federal Reserve, Paul Volcker, shares his thoughts about the necessity to change the US tax system. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/9696268.stm

   

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Quote spongebob Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2012 at 18:46
Originally posted by Gringo.Floripa


Did any US gringos fill out this new tax form, labeled 8938, with their 2011 US tax return???  I just learned about it this weekend!  I filed for an extension, so fortunately can still submit it (my FBAR already mailed in before last month's deadline though).

http://www.greenbacktaxservices.com/blog/irs-foreign-asset-reporting-guidelines

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/article/0,,id=255986,00.html


FBAR, FACTA, Form 8938... pelo amor de Deus, ė DEMAIS!!!  Wacko

And then after all these frickin' hoops to jump through… I read this merda!  
Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least 21 TRILLION dollars  Angry

Esprit... are you one of them???  Wink



FBAR -- I don't even have enough money in an account to have to fill one out. I have a popança with like R$ 700 in it now. It used to have less.

FATCA - terrible thing. It inadvertantly made our lives more difficult. Me, it hasn't affected me yet. But reports on the internet say accounts get closed.

These are 2 things that no other expat from any other country on the planet has to deal with. Just US Citizens. Every centavo is almost out of the US now. I don't make any money there. I'm applying for Brazilian citizenship. How is US Citizenship even worth it for someone like me? But if someone wants to keep it, more power to them.

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Quote OldMiller Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2012 at 23:01
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How is US Citizenship even worth it for someone like me?
If it weren't worth something to you, you wouldn't talk about it incessantly on here.
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Quote spongebob Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2012 at 09:27
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Originally posted by spongebob


How is US Citizenship even worth it for someone like me?
If it weren't worth something to you, you wouldn't talk about it incessantly on here.


Absolutely FALSE! I'm angry because... let me repeat it for you, NO OTHER EXPAT FROM ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON THE *PLANET* HAS TO DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS.

I'm also angry that there is a $450 fee when:
1- I didn't ask to be born there
2- The fee is excessive. Most countries charge $150 bucks or LESS.

So based on these things, I'm definitely no flagwaiver anymore.

This is from the Brazilian consulate in The Netherlands:

EMOLUMENTOS CONSULARES
É gratuito o processamento dos documentos relativos à perda de nacionalidade.
No entanto, são cobrados:

A – Fotocópia autenticada do certificado de naturalização

€ 5,00 por página

B – Reconhecimento de firma na carta à Autoridade Consular

€ 20,00

C – Declaração que informa início do processo de perda da nacionalidade

€ 15,00


Last time I checked, 40 euros is a hell of a lot less than $450.


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Quote spongebob Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2012 at 09:30
http://www.consbrasdc.org/sub_service.asp?id=54

Wow.. it's only $10 for a Brazilian to do it in Washington DC. Any Brazilian who does this in the US has to be out of their mind!


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